[00:19] SketchCow: there's a spammer all the way from '09 on IA [00:19] Can I add something to the URL of an arcade rom page to get an onscreen keyboard? [00:19] https://archive.org/details/@perrysantiago#uploads [00:19] Not yet. [00:19] (Keyboards) [00:19] Adding them soon. [00:43] https://archive.org/details/@chris85#uploads [01:04] # Appears as ANNA [01:12] SketchCow: so i got a email from jeff [01:12] looks like i'm loading things too fast for them [01:20] Oh Jeff [01:23] i think my ERIC items take up too many jobs [01:43] hahahaha [03:02] right then [03:02] so I have my new PC up and running [03:02] and I've been.. "benchmarking" it a bit [03:03] Xonotic at highest possible settings, not a lag spike or framerate drop to be found [03:03] CPU temp hovers between 25 and 35 celsius [03:03] fans spin down *immediately* after closing down something that's causing load, so airflow seems good [03:03] :D [03:04] and overall it's dead quiet [03:17] awesome! [03:17] all SSD based, or still some spinning disks? [03:18] dashcloud: 100% spinning disks :P [03:18] durability etc [03:19] 1TB WD Blue as main OS disk now [03:19] 4TB WD Green as storage [03:19] and I have an old 36GB WD Raptor that I plan on shoving in for swap and other disk-intensive things [03:19] will this be a project machine, main machine, or one of your archive machines? [03:19] but I'm short on power connectors currently [03:19] dashcloud: main desktop :) [03:19] replacing the old crappy hand-me-down that I used before [03:19] yay! [03:20] that tended to exhibit hardware failures every other day [03:20] >.> [03:20] (not exaggerating) [03:20] I'm kinda amazed that it kept booting for so long, given that the PSU was fucked, the RAM was probably fucked, the GPU was fucked [03:20] and so on [03:20] so it's now standing in the corner of my room as "spare parts, box, whatever" [03:21] dashcloud: my case: http://www.sharkoon.com/sites/default/files/products/pc_cases/VG4-W_01.jpg [03:21] minus fan LEDs [03:21] I've replaced the casefans with Noctua fans [03:21] because quiet [03:22] they're rated for 7dB I think.. :P [03:22] awesome [03:22] CPU fan is rated for... 15dB? [03:22] PSU fan for 20 [03:22] under low/regular load [03:23] altogether, you have to make an effort to hear it [03:23] (not using stock CPU cooler, added on a Cooler Master Hyper T4) [03:24] so yeah, if anybody is in NL and needs a stock AMD cooler or blue-LED 120mm case fans, you can come pick them up :P [03:24] though I may keep one 120mm on hand just in case [03:24] (caution: stock AMD cooler sucks at cooling) [03:25] anyway, tl;dr, awesome new box :D [03:25] with much better performance than I'd expected [04:09] so feb 2008 of funny or die videos are all uploaded now [04:10] i hope to have all of funny or die videos uploaded by next year [04:10] *next year sometime [04:11] i'm NOT going to get this all backed up in 2 months [04:22] funny that Jeff is in the folk band [04:41] Will archive.org take my viruses? [05:14] yes [05:20] lol [05:20] Good, cuz i have like 10 years of them [05:21] will they just hide them or something? [05:21] How do you ensure they aren't removed since I saw mentions on their site of having some kind of malware scanner [05:23] you should email info@archive.org to make sure [05:23] they will not delete things but they may make them invisible until you get permission to make them visible [05:24] I dunno if I've want the viruses visable [05:24] visible* [05:25] if the virus scanner sees something it doesn't like, it will dark the item. [05:25] dark = make invisible [05:26] AhhAhh [05:26] Just found the IA beta interface... so, um, IA is now Pinterest? But seriously, it's awesome. I've been having a LOT of fun browsing through it :) [05:26] yuuup [05:43] It's the new thing. [05:43] godane: Yes, Jeff is in the band [05:46] so december 2004 msnbc.com videos is almost done [05:51] where did those come from? [05:54] TFGBD: msnbc.com videos came from msnbc.com ;-) [05:54] or what is now nbcnews.com [07:03] i'm now starting to upload jan 2005 msnbc.com videos [07:05] How did you get them? [07:06] You guys were doing this in 2005? [07:07] by going thur displaymode pages on nbcnews.com [07:08] they encoded all past videos into flash [07:08] i was able to find clips going back to 1998 [07:14] Ahh, nice! [14:50] kyan: you're the second person to compare IA beta to Pinterest... reality is that that layout was around long before Pinterest :) [14:50] conceptually that is, not necessarily for IA [14:54] and pinterest is new stuff, ia is oldstuff, way more interresting [17:18] whoa facebookcorewwwi.onion [17:22] yep [17:22] schbirid: dubious for a number of reasons [17:23] i kinda trust their "we want people to use fb in countries where gov interferes" [17:23] but still a big nope [17:24] kinda anti tor [17:26] anti tor? [17:27] Hello, am i doing something wrong: I am working on ancestry and have received nothing but this: No item received. There aren't any items available for this project at the moment. Try again later. Retrying after 300 seconds... [17:28] ersi: we make it easier for you to go around gov surveillance so we can surveil you instead [17:34] schbirid: are you familiar with vanity hidden service address generation [17:35] schbirid: Huh? Tor? or Facebook? [18:22] speaking of onions, that reminds me of https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vo1IwmaUz90 watch out, its a bit loud. [18:23] So, I just downloaded 20GB of Microsoft web installers [18:23] Gah, I hate those things [18:24] Fortunately the ones I wanted let you use the /a administrative install switch to install them for offline use. [18:24] is that on the FAQ? [18:25] A lot of installers offer a built in way to download them for offline use. You can usually find the switches if you do a /? on the installer executable. [18:34] microsoft web installers? [18:36] Yes, a shitload of this more recent stuff doesn't let you download a real installer [18:36] It's a web boostrapper that downloads the cabs/msis/whatever as you are installing it [18:37] oh right [18:37] TFGBD: there should be a link to an offline version [18:37] somewhere on the download page [18:37] or well, there used to be anyway [18:37] "for unattended installation" I think they said [18:38] Nope [18:38] What you have to do is do what is called an MSI administrative install [18:38] which is what i did [18:38] basically msiexec /a appname.msi [18:38] see here for an example: http://www.microsoft.com/en-us/download/details.aspx?id=3584 [18:39] This is over 10GB so they let you only download the components you want [18:39] But I hate that because it's possible they could take down the original download at a moment's notice [18:39] Chrome does this same crap [18:39] Though, they at least (sometimes) offer a hidden offline installer somewhere [18:39] joepie91: some newer MS stuff has no real documented offline download method [18:40] Mainly SDKs and such [18:40] :( [18:40] proprietary software sucks [18:40] Open source sucks too if they take down the repos ;P [18:40] It's the same thing [18:40] TFGBD: definitely not the same thing [18:40] Actually, OSS kind of pioneered that crap [18:40] It's close [18:40] open-source software can easily be (legally) mirrored and that's exactly what happens [18:41] Yeah, I get that too [18:41] and you can get to the software to begin with [18:41] like [18:41] with this MS crap [18:41] Sometimes the proprietairy stuff tells you not to [18:41] you couldn't even really figure out WHERE the data is without using Wireshark [18:41] even if you wanted to mirror it somewhere [18:41] that problem doesn't really exist with OSS stuff, it's always clear where to get a copy [18:41] that's the whole point of it [18:42] Well, fortunately, most of the ones I'm interested in will take a command line switch to let you download an offline copy [18:42] Though, before I knew this, I went as far as reverse engineering an MSI to find the download URLs [18:42] joepie91: I get you [18:42] Though, the same happens to OSS if not enough people take interest in mirroring "old" stuff because it is "old" [18:43] TFGBD: yes, but that is the case regardless of distribution/licensing model [18:43] the point is that OSS software doesn't have the artificial technical/legal barriers that proprietary software does [18:43] so *if* you want to keep a copy, then you *can* do so [18:43] anyway, I'm in the process of uploading my CE5 as we speak :P [18:43] I hope Archive.org HTML5 uploader can handle 5GB... [18:44] sure, peanuts [18:44] just needs time [18:44] :P [18:44] It's 10GB unzipped [18:44] I wish it just let me download the cabs [18:44] The offline install seems to just install everything like a normal install but in one directory [18:45] I'm working on CE 6 PB Eval as well as that thing was a bitch to find even the websetup link for [18:47] There are also some SDKs I want to mirror [19:48] I tried the flash uploader and it messed up my upload [19:49] It thought it was a movie and I see no way to change the site section [20:04] admins can fix it, what's the item [20:04] the key is to pick the right collection when setting up the details [20:25] that, or to bother the admins by email afterwards [20:25] :) [20:25] TFGBD: aside; the flash uploader sometimes has trouble with large files [20:25] use the HTML5 uploader if at all possible [20:26] which I could use it for existing items :/ [20:28] yeah, if you're trying to update an existing item, you're stuck with the Flash uploader :( [20:30] er *wish [21:06] i just reuploaded with the html5 uploader [21:06] erm don't do that [21:06] i guess i can email the about deleting the old one [21:06] them* [21:09] Here's the good upload: https://archive.org/details/MioC320SoftwareandDocumentationDVD [21:10] And the bad one that ended up in Community Video: https://archive.org/details/MitacMioC320SoftwareAndDocumentation [21:11] you can fix ones with the wrong info but you can't delete them [21:12] the best you can do is delete the files out of it and get someone to dark the item, but only a few people can do that [21:12] I'll try that [21:13] Ill add a test file with "please delete this it was a mistake" [21:13] fyi the default for .iso files is video because dvdrips [21:15] Ahh. [21:15] I didn't see a place to change the section [21:16] It would be nice if you could move it to another area without asking an admin :( [21:16] you can move items to collections you have permissions for with the s3 api: https://archive.org/help/abouts3.txt [21:16] you can do it with th command line tool [21:16] https://pypi.python.org/pypi/internetarchive [21:16] also there are several admins in this channel :P [21:17] ohh :p [21:17] neat [21:17] I did this: https://archive.org/details/MitacMioC320SoftwareAndDocumentation [21:17] huh, didn't know ia could move items. [21:18] When you "delete" stuff, does it really delete them or do they keep them too? [21:18] the collection is just another metadata field [21:18] you have to have permission for the target collection though [21:18] but it stupidly doesn't let the uploader change it [21:18] afaik if you delete a file from the item it's gone, darking the item doesn't delete anything though [21:19] Is there a certain point the uploader can no longer delete it? [21:19] not that I know of [21:19] that means the uploaders could take things form IA :( [21:20] TFGBD: that's not stupid, that's intentional [21:20] well it's kind of a stupid intention (the collection thing) [21:20] because I constantly see people whining on the forums to move things or uploading things twice [21:21] maybe need more curation power [21:21] manpower that is [21:21] for sure, but in the meantime [21:22] Well, what I did it good enough for now [21:22] I'm not really one for forums or email :P [21:27] hm, apparently you have to be an admin to move an item to open_source_software with ia. [21:27] that or destroy and respecify the metadata with curl. [21:28] with ia i got "Can't modify read-only field collection" [21:28] I just uploaded something but it isn't showing up in the Uploads section of my account page [21:29] Does it take some time? [21:31] garyrh: ah I thought you could [21:31] TFGBD: you can just contact info@archive.org to have an item darked, btw [21:32] I can do collection changes but I guess it's from being a collection admin [21:32] using curl works so i guess it *should* work with ia [21:33] oh [21:33] i think you have to be explicitly added as admin to a collection otherwise. [21:38] garyrh: wait, using curl to do what? [21:38] to destroy and respecify the metadata [21:40] garyrh: example command? [21:40] see http://archive.org/help/abouts3.txt search Destroy and respecify [21:41] so if it wasw in opensource_audio, now it would be in opensource [21:41] as those are default collections, so you'd have permissions to uploaded things there [21:41] *upload [21:44] right, thanks [22:23] https://torrentfreak.com/photographer-who-sued-imgur-now-has-a-pirate-bay-problem-141022/ [22:28] hehe [22:29] "you had a problem, and you thought 'Hey, I'd use a lawsuit!' - now you have two^Wthree problems" [22:29] :D [22:29] got 99 problems but a imgur ain't one [22:33] I have some recordings of a few internet radio stations [22:33] upload! [22:33] where would those go [22:33] community audio [22:33] The one station is now defunct [22:33] AND it's a christmas special :P [22:33] TFGBD: if it's a lot of the same station, ask for a collection to be created [22:33] if it's just a few, drop them under community audio [22:33] It's only a few hours of one station [22:33] it's music, though [22:33] Music and talk [22:33] Deoes that sitll count as PD? [22:34] does* [22:34] TFGBD: doesn't matter, just upload it [22:34] if somebody complains it'll be darked :P [22:34] see also: https://archive.org/details/afterhoursdjs_livesets [22:35] I should take a recording of Windows XP's activation phone number before they take it down [23:27] Hmm... I can't find the item history link in the IA beta interface... [23:27] ersi: facebook! i love Tor :) proud owner of routers and shirts [23:28] joepie91: not familiar, tried vanitygen(?) once for some random idea but thats all [23:29] TFGBD: https://archive.org/contribute.php in case you didnt know [23:34] Strange. My upload still isn't there [23:34] It it because I set the creator as Microsoft? [23:34] then something probably went wrong :( [23:35] should be in the "not done yet" list at least [23:35] TFGBD: You can see the last jobs your account has triggered: https://archive.org/catalog.php?history=1&justme=1&limit=500 [23:39] kyan: you can change /details/ to /history/ in a url to get the history [23:40] xmc: Thanks! :) Yeah it would still be nice to have a link though for easy access [23:40] tru.dat [23:40] it says Waiting to run 0 [23:42] Heh, I see lots of MSNBC videos in the queue :P [23:48] schbirid: basically, having a self-chosen address is the equivalent of having computed the private key to an arbitrary predefined public key [23:48] read: serious security issue [23:48] so depending on how exactly they've obtained that onion host - and I'm not sure I believe their explanation - that could be really really bad