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midas |
hm didnt soyoustart include 16 ip addresses? |
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Coderjoe |
anyone have a means of backing up a reddit profile? |
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01:08
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Start |
i use archivebot |
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Start |
with the command: !a http://www.reddit.com/user/USERNAME/ --no-offsite-links --ignore-sets=reddit |
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godane |
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R2H0ZhO1NWI |
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balrog |
also archived: https://twitter.com/dougalcorn/status/550998421088518144 (that's her dad saying thanks to Cathy Brennan, one of the worst TERFs around) |
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joepie91 |
I can't help but think that a Gawker outlet may not be the best outlet to write a "these guys fucked up too many stories" article... |
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Coderjoe |
ok... I don't understand what is going on with reddit... |
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joepie91 |
jesus, that tumblr postg |
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joepie91 |
post * |
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snuffy |
* 4 = 150 |
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Coderjoe |
I'm looking at threads that were obviously started by leelah, but they say "by [deleted]", but still have posts from her in the comments that are attributed to her |
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Coderjoe |
which just makes me wonder why the original posts now say "by [deleted]" |
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joepie91 |
Coderjoe: account deletion is a tricky thing to do |
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joepie91 |
in social environments |
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kyan__ |
I'm a Christian, but i don't get what her parents' problem was with her... i thought the Jesus was like gender neutral |
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kyan__ |
or, like, socially progressive or something |
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joepie91 |
religion frankly doesn't even really matter here |
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joepie91 |
it's just the excuse of choice |
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kyan__ |
that's like the thing all the articles are mentioning |
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kyan__ |
it's like, christianity says someone can't be who they think they are, and I'm like, WHAT. |
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kyan__: yes, because that is a common scapegoat |
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Coderjoe |
her mom was quoted as saying they couldn't accept trans due to religion |
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joepie91 |
yes |
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joepie91 |
I'm sure she did |
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kyan__ |
right |
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joepie91 |
doesn't mean that's actually the cause |
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joepie91 |
it can be either a genuine belief that religion doesn't allow being trans, or her disliking trans people and going 'but my kids are perfectly normal' and just conveniently using their religion as a justification for that stance |
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joepie91 |
in my personal experience, the latter appears to be more common |
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joepie91 |
what people say and what they do/think are two entirely different things |
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joepie91 |
(also known as "every user lies" in dev..) |
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pikhq_ |
kyan__: FWIW I don't know of anything that's against transness in Christian beliefs either. |
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kyan__ |
bizarre |
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pikhq_ |
Though of course a lot of Christians are opposed to it, and then go on to attempt to justify it from a religious viewpoint. |
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kyan__ |
it just seems like, they know themselves better than anyone else |
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pikhq_ |
It really is the weirdest thing, how religions manage to accrue moral precepts that aren't even in there. :) |
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Coderjoe |
well, I think some of the same verses against homosexuality get used against transgenderism as well |
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Coderjoe |
and a lot of people conflate the two anyway |
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pikhq_ |
Yeah, I think it's that last bit that does a lot of it. |
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pikhq_ |
When you view a trans straight woman as a cis gay man with a fondness for crossdressing, you're gonna apply anti-homosexuality things to it. |
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Coderjoe |
(lev 18:22 and 20:13 are two that are probably most common) |
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kyan__ |
well there's a lot of stuff in the bible that most christians don't follow, all the old testament laws and stuff. Seems like if Jesus didn't say it, it,s up to you to decide? |
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Coderjoe |
well, the ten commandments are also part of those old testament laws, so... |
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pikhq_ |
kyan__: As far as I can tell, it's generally accepted that old testament laws aren't directly applicable, yeah. |
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kyan__ |
oh well, and my line of thought falls apart in ten lines LOL |
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pikhq_ |
Except when you view it as being convenient to your biases, of course. |
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kyan__ |
I guess I just fall fairly much on the libertarian side of things irregardless |
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pikhq_ |
*nod* |
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kyan__ |
and all the anti-transgender stuff just really Grinds My Gears™ |
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pikhq_ concurs |
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joepie91 |
frankly, all the anti-anything stuff really grinds my gears |
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joepie91 |
related to religion |
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pikhq_ |
joepie91: Yeah... |
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joepie91 |
makes no goddamn sense to judge people by who they are, rather than what they do |
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joepie91 |
thou shalt not harm others, done |
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pikhq_ |
People like hating other people, and religion is very convenient for providing a rationalization for it. |
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kyan__ |
I mean, it's "Jesus Loves" not "Jesus Hates" for a reason |
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joepie91 |
heh |
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joepie91 |
kyan__: well, until you ask the Westboro Baptist Church of course... |
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pikhq_ |
I mean, if something has no reason behind it, but your god says it, then there it is! (even if you're really just pretending your god said it... :) ) |
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kyan__ |
they're just 4chan in real life lol |
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joepie91 |
nah |
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joepie91 |
far more litigious |
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05:30
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joepie91 |
it's like a commercial /b/ made up of sleazy lawyers |
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joepie91 |
with some redneck tendencies |
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Coderjoe |
speaking of trolls and crap... did anyone snag this? https://www.anonimg.com/img/c5bc75d9d913da27d6ce4c2f6b805bcb.jpeg |
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Coderjoe |
it doesn't seem to load for me |
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joepie91 |
Coderjoe: image works for me |
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joepie91 |
but it's anonimg |
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joepie91 |
so it'll randomly succeed or fail |
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Coderjoe |
and apparently it is calling for assholes to ddos helplines |
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joepie91 |
depending on the current most popular flavour of poptarts and the mood that moot was in when he last stepped out of bed |
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05:32
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kyan__ |
Coderjoe: yeah i archivebotted it |
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joepie91 |
and some other variables that are a mystery to anybody but the elite /b/ circle |
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pikhq_ |
Coderjoe: What a disgusting thread. |
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Coderjoe |
lo. I seem to have used the correct magic incantation this time |
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05:34
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Coderjoe |
and now I wish it hadn't |
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joepie91 |
pikhq_: evidently a troll thread |
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pikhq_ |
Alas, the difference between trolling and earnesty is hard to measure. :) |
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joepie91 |
pikhq_: sometimes... it's fairly clear here |
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fenn |
the scariest comment on that anonimg is the one about the jobbik party in hungary, which wikipedia claims has 20% of the vote |
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Start is now known as StartAway |
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Coderjoe |
hmm. one that is sorta specific against trans folk is deut 22:5. (it was mentioned in the comments of a video I just watched) |
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joepie91 |
Coderjoe: eh, not really |
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joepie91 |
it's against crossdressing, if even that |
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Coderjoe |
yes, against CD, but depending on how one looks at TG, it could be seen as CD. |
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joepie91 |
... no |
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joepie91 |
very much no |
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joepie91 |
crossdressing is one very specific thing |
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Coderjoe |
I am not saying I agree with such aview |
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Coderjoe |
believe me, I know the difference |
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joepie91 |
that may be done / desired by a transgender person, but is in no way inherently a part of it |
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joepie91 |
Coderjoe: there are stupid views on everything |
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06:17
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Coderjoe |
it was a devils advocate statement |
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joepie91 |
it's not really worth discussing the merits of them if they are obviously incorrect |
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godane |
SketchCow: you will be happy to know that Mark Driscoll is a archivist: http://markdriscoll.org/ |
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godane |
i'm save the marshill videos that i don't have from there |
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godane |
btw the website still blocks Ia_archiver bot |
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Coderjoe |
archivebot is running on that site. I don't know how it does for video, though |
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snuffy |
do that site with the police officer darren wilson |
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joepie91 |
godane: an archivist that blocks ia_archvier..?: |
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godane |
better that there is a website with the files and blocking then no website at all |
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godane |
looks like there was wild fires in south korea around 2005-04-29: https://archive.org/details/kbs-news-video-news930-2005-04-29 |
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godane |
that show was better then the normal run |
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