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joepie91 |
.t https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=8881841 |
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joepie91 |
oh right |
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joepie91 |
.title https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=8881841 |
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botpie91 |
joepie91: The EU may have just banned the anonymous sale of online goods and services | Hacker News |
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xmc |
i continue to wonder why people choose to live there, but i wonder the same thing about every part of the world from time to time |
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joepie91 |
It's All Fucked |
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xmc |
bingo |
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schbirid |
joepie91: wat, do you have something to hide? |
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joepie91 |
you have no idea how much I hope that some lawyer is going to waltz in and go "no you're wrong because X and Y" |
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because I seriously don't want this to be true |
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aaaaaaaaa |
joepie91: fyi, electronic services are defined here |
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aaaaaaaaa |
http://eur-lex.europa.eu/LexUriServ/LexUriServ.do?uri=OJ:L:2011:077:0001:0022:EN:PDF |
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joepie91 |
aaaaaaaaa: yes, but read the document I linked |
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joepie91 |
it states that the definition is unclear/incomplete |
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and it requires redefinition |
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joepie91 |
afaik the document I linked was drafted *after* 2011 |
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so I can't assume that that definition is correct anymore |
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aaaaaaaaa |
section three incorporated through reference |
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aaaaaaaaa |
wait wrong section, I was in findings |
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aaaaaaaaa |
apologies, I can't be of more help until it is engrossed. Too much to keep track of. |
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aaaaaaaaa |
http://ec.europa.eu/taxation_customs/resources/documents/taxation/vat/how_vat_works/telecom/explanatory_notes_2015_en.pdf may be helpful as it is in better english |
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aaaaaaaaa |
maybe section 1.2 or 1.3 |
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arkiver |
10964 hours of radio uploaded now |
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joepie91 |
arkiver: you're on a roll :P |
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deathy |
joepie91: so more companies having your data, forced to keep them for 10 years even though they don't have the security/systems for it, etc. |
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kyan |
Radio: https://weru.org/ deletes their recordings of some shows after 2 weeks |
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joepie91 |
deathy: yes |
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joepie91 |
in fact, "having anonymous customers" becomes effectively impossible |
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arkiver |
joepie91: yep :) All of 2011 is done, 2012 will be done soon |
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deathy |
I think it may be more effective to argue for possible privacy issues and forcing businesses to have a bigger accounting overhead |
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joepie91 |
deathy: feel free to do so |
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deathy |
not sure how much impact consumers have. But show it's bad for privacy and business ovehead..different players |
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joepie91 |
:) |
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