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SketchCow |
textfiles.com is slow because I'm re-syncing a pile of data. |
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kyan_ |
weird, IA doesn't allow rar upload |
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kyan_ |
annoyingly it accepts the file, and then rejects it *after* it's finished uploading... |
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ionpulse |
huh wonder why |
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ionpulse |
rar has recovery records though, which are good |
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ohhdemgir |
proprietary bs format? |
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ionpulse |
There are floss decompressors on almost every platform, and rar/unrar in non-free branches in linux distros. |
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ohhdemgir |
that was my best guess |
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ionpulse |
Despite the formating being non-open source, accessing the data is just a trivial as any other compression scheme. |
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ionpulse |
It might very well be because its proprietary like you said, or because its the warez scene standard. |
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xmc |
i'd guess because it's commonly full of warez |
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ohhdemgir |
aye, quite the choice format there |
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ohhdemgir |
xmc, did you get the output of ftp-nab? |
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xmc |
remind me? |
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ohhdemgir |
SketchCow, said you were running https://github.com/ArchiveTeam/ftp-nab |
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ohhdemgir |
awhile ago now i imagine |
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xmc |
oh |
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xmc |
yeah i ran that for about 4 hours before my host bitched at me |
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ohhdemgir |
same story as the rest of us XD |
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ohhdemgir |
ballocks |
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kyan_ |
Published a blog post tearing apart the ISIL terrorist propaganda effort, with links to their magazines for assessment... I just know someone's going to tell me I'm supporting terrorism by linking them :P *looks over shoulder* |
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Control-S |
I think if a format is going to be auto-rejected, it should be rejected before it gets more than a few MB in |
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Control-S |
also shouldn't warez be archived too? |
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yipdw |
the S3 endpoint has a similar reject behavior when uploading WARCs |
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yipdw |
it is probably one of those things on the gigantic IA todo list |
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godane |
i have this rejection happen with m4v files |
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godane |
it start to suggest that i change it to mp4 |
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Control-S |
Also I want to play around with some of the warrior projects to try reusing them for idifferent tasks, and i run windows 7 on my main PC. Does anyone have reccomendations for what I should do to test my changes? Should I set up a VM? |
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yipdw |
yes |
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yipdw |
almost nobody develops these things on Windows 7 |
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yipdw |
I mean feel free to try but there won't be much help |
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Control-S |
Any reccomendations for what distro/software i should use in a dev VM? |
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yipdw |
debian and ubuntu get a lot of use here |
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Control-S |
I'm a linux noob, and i can throw a reasonable amount of CPU and ram at the VM |
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yipdw |
also http://archiveteam.org/index.php?title=Dev/Seesaw and http://archiveteam.org/index.php?title=Dev/Tracker might be useful |
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Control-S |
okay, any good IDEs for python, LUA, ect? |
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yipdw |
I don't know |
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Control-S |
can you reccomend any good VM software? |
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yipdw |
VirtualBox |
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Control-S |
thanks |
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yipdw |
https://github.com/ArchiveTeam/archiveteam-dev-env is also useful |
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yipdw |
there's typically not much reason to set up the tracker machine yourself |
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Control-S |
I don't understand about the tracker |
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Control-S |
can it be within the same VM? |
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yipdw |
yes |
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Control-S |
phew |
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yipdw |
that's the idea behind https://github.com/ArchiveTeam/archiveteam-dev-env |
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Control-S |
i'm sorry if i seem a bit thick, It's very hot here and i've not been at my best |
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yipdw |
I hate you, it's been freezing here until recently |
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Control-S |
I like the cold because it's much easier to heat a room than cool it |
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Control-S |
and i never think as well if i'm hot |
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Control-S |
such is life in australia |
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Control-S |
so I should run this dev-env thing inside a VM? |
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yipdw |
insofar as IDEs go I've seen chfoo use Eclipse with some plugins for Python |
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yipdw |
I don't know how good that is, chfoo would be the person to ask |
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Control-S |
it's the shell script in step one of "Creating the VM appliance" that concerns me |
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yipdw |
you can download the linked OVA (https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/672132/archiveteam/archiveteam-dev-env-v1-20140913.ova) and run that in VirtualBox |
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Control-S |
I can just run that and do all my dev stuff there? |
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yipdw |
yes |
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Control-S |
nice GUI there or all CLI? |
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yipdw |
it's all console, there's not really a need for a GUI in the VM |
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yipdw |
to edit using tools on your desktop, VirtualBox's shared folders can be useful |
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Control-S |
So I should use a windows IDE and copy to the VM to run it? |
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yipdw |
whatever is most comfortable |
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yipdw |
you don't need to copy |
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yipdw |
shared folders automatically sync |
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Control-S |
okay, thanks. I'll have a go at setting it all up |
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yipdw |
the idea behind shared folders is that you can mount the dev user's home directory |
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yipdw |
as a path on your Windows machine (it'll show up as a network drive) |
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yipdw |
then your IDE can access that and you can do repo management, code, etc. from there |
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yipdw |
or you can split between the console and IDE as you prefer |
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yipdw |
you will need console access to start/stop the tracker |
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godane |
i'm starting to upload kbs nine o'clock news |
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godane |
uploaded: https://archive.org/details/kbs-news-video-news9-2000-01-02 |
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godane |
anything before mid may 200 is like 28kbs video |
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godane |
*may 2000 |
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godane |
also note that item is the only one from jan 2000 |
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godane |
there is none in feb 2000 |
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godane |
and march videos starts on the 22 |
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schbirid |
anyone know a good overview how geoip != actual origin of hacking attack to link to some dumb journalists? |
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w0rp |
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=eu.kowalczuk.rsync4android&hl=en_GB This application is alright. |
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w0rp |
It runs rsync over SSH with a key pair and you can give it the command line parameters. |
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schbirid |
http://wathifi.tumblr.com/ |
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winr4r |
oh, dude, i saw that a couple of weeks back, that is amazing |
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winr4r |
"By comparison, Cat5e sounded ‘greyer’, with less contrast and somewhat dulled detail." |
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winr4r |
i like how the site they're quoting is called "enjoythemusic.com" when the people there are doing everything but |
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Control-S |
were they running alalogue over the cable or something? |
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Control-S |
or are they just THAT far gone? |
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winr4r |
if you're hearing sound differences between fucking *ethernet cables* you are enjoying the sound of your own voice, not the music |
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winr4r |
Control-S: they are THAT FAR GONE. |
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winr4r |
elsewhere from the same site, "This Corsair drive (another SSD) conspicuously highlighted vocal sibilants, and had a hard, relentless quality that was impossible to miss." |
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winr4r |
WHY MUSIC SOUNDS DIFFERENT PLAYED FROM A DIFFERENT HARD DRIVE. |
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Control-S |
are they running a DB server off the disk or something? |
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winr4r |
no |
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winr4r |
welcome to the world of audiophiles, Control-S |
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Control-S |
i'm just trying to give them far more benifit of the doubt than is reasonable |
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winr4r |
Control-S: insert hitler analogy |
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12:27
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Control-S |
Like assuming WORST POSSIBLE testing conditions |
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winr4r |
this is what audiophiles actually believe |
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Control-S |
I can imagine ways that it MIGHT be POSSIBLE for the different equiptment to have a difference, but you'd have to be trying pretty hard to ever encounter such conditions |
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winr4r |
no, it's not |
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Control-S |
Like running analogue over cat5 in a really noisy environment |
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winr4r |
audio reviewers make shit up all the time, it's just obvious to us that they are in this case because they don't know how digital audio works and we do |
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Control-S |
or using freaky custom encoding designed by an idiot and running on hardware taxed past specs |
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Control-S |
but yeah, these guys are either idiots, scammers, or both |
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winr4r |
it's a perfect case study of how if you WANT a thing to be true, it will be |
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Control-S |
I'd be rather interested in seeing some engineers try to actually make the claims possible |
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winr4r |
they want to hear differences, so they do |
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Control-S |
like that analogue over cat5 example |
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winr4r |
they don't make money from telling people that $10 cables sound the same as $1000 cables |
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Control-S |
simpily for comedic value |
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winr4r |
because it's the $1000 cable guys that advertise with them |
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Control-S |
What cases can you think of where that sort of money would actually be reasonable for a cable? |
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Smiley |
ok thats odd |
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Control-S |
Like any scientific fields where ludicrous shielding is needed |
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Smiley |
why is this same disucssion happening right now in the arqade chat on stackexchange. |
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Smiley |
Control-S: no |
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Smiley |
'directional cables' doesn't make tem worth more money |
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winr4r |
Smiley: lol is that a thing |
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Smiley |
yes |
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Control-S |
haha wow directional cables? |
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Smiley |
All audio cables are directional. The correct direction is determined by listening to every batch of metal conductors used in every AudioQuest audio cable. Arrows are clearly marked on the connectors to ensure superior sound quality. For best results have the arrow pointing in the direction of the flow of music. For example, NAS to Router, Router to Network Player. |
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Smiley cries |
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Smiley |
mean while I'm going to a 1 yr olds party |
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Control-S |
like more conductors for one direction of data transfer? |
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Smiley |
well, 7 1 yr olds |
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winr4r |
that is awesome |
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winr4r |
Smiley: my god that sounds terrifying |
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Control-S |
give them all fingerpaint |
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Control-S |
film results |
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schbirid |
uh |
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schbirid |
you guys |
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schbirid |
of course cables are directional |
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schbirid |
why else does everyone have less up than downstream on DSL |
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winr4r |
lol |
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schbirid |
a friend of mine once reversed the direction of his cable and had like fiber for a day until the isp noticed |
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Control-S |
different allocation of frequency ranges |
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12:39
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Control-S |
Have you ever tried plugging your modem into the phone line with a cat6 cable? you can get gigabit internet for the same price as dialup |
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schbirid |
yeah but dont you have to chip off the limiter pin first? |
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Control-S |
you can use a marker to block it, like that old cd copy protection. just take a sharpie to the edgemost pins and shove the thing in until it stays in place |
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schbirid |
nice let me try |
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Control-S |
If it doesn't seem to fit you need to push harder |
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godane |
so you take cat6 cable and force into a dial-up modem to get gigabit? |
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godane |
:P |
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Control-S |
this is actually how the internet archive gets its bandwidth |
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raylee |
LOL |
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winr4r |
hahaha. |
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Control-S |
they have a PBX that they do this with on all the ports, so it's multiplied by like 50 times |
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D: |
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schbirid |
;) |
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godane |
so issue 14 and 15 of electronic gaming monthly are on retromags.com |
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godane |
they been out for a while |
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Control-S |
regarding the archiveteam-dev-env VM image, is there anything special i need to do to get a shared folder working? |
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Control-S |
I get an error message when I try to access the shared folder settings through the devices menu in virtualbox |
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http://imgur.com/OcvIbva |
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Control-S: you need to install the virtualbox-guest-utils package, IIRC |
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http://www.audiovisualonline.co.uk/product/8041/audioquest-diamond-rj-e-ethernet-cable-12m |
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god, journalists |
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schbirid |
31 attacks on swiss water plants! |
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(aka some honeypot they got setup) |
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15 ips, 14 of which they managed to publish |
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4 x shodan |
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2 other researcher domains |
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8 known scanners/hack sources |
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1 ancient adsl router |
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OMG WE SIMULATED A WATER PLANT AND GOT ATTACKOXXERD! |
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joepie91 |
schbirid: wa |
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joepie91 |
wat * |
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schbirid |
http://blog.tagesanzeiger.ch/datenblog/index.php/7521/31-attacken-auf-schweizer-wasserkraftwerke |
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enjoy |
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comment in the works |
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wtf is a "TCP - Crash tentative" attack |
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the trans canada pipeline isn't sure if a truck crashed in to it |
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:) |
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botpie91: tell yipdw reminder: tomorrow (feb 9) is last day for starnode |
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joepie91: I'll pass that on when yipdw is around. |
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joepie91: aaaaaaaaaa |
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yipdw: 20:21Z <joepie91> tell yipdw reminder: tomorrow (feb 9) is last day for starnode |
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SketchCow |
Reminderbot!!! |
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yipdw: thank you, now please panic appropriately |
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joepie91 |
:P |
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I'm just aborting all of starnode's jobs |
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or getting someone to do it for me |
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heh |
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is it out of the rotation already? |
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yeah |
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as in, nodes that jobs are assigned to |
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I stopped it last month |
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okay |
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okay :P |
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