#archiveteam-bs 2015-02-10,Tue

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00:14 🔗 joepie91 godane: hmm, did you upload all Twilight discs you have? there seem to be a good bunch of releases still missing
00:16 🔗 godane i have a few more dvds
00:16 🔗 godane but all cds are uploaded
00:19 🔗 joepie91 godane: upload all the things :D
00:19 🔗 joepie91 also, whoo: https://tweakers.net/nieuws/101284/tweede-kamer-steunt-ongericht-aftappen-door-geheime-dienst.html
00:19 🔗 joepie91 Dutch govt supports undirected tapping of wired networks (ie. mass collection)
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00:40 🔗 SketchCow Uploading a metric ton of tapes.
00:40 🔗 SketchCow 36 days of cassette tapes.
00:40 🔗 SketchCow https://archive.org/details/ct_World_Dance_April_2nd_1994
00:43 🔗 dashcloud joepie91: depends on what equipment you have available- there's a number of ways to dump GB cartridges
00:43 🔗 joepie91 dashcloud: the equipment is effectively 0
00:43 🔗 joepie91 and this is a one-off thing
00:43 🔗 dashcloud if you had a lot of foresight and bought a retrode+the gb plugin, that's the easiest way
00:44 🔗 dashcloud if you've got money, this will work: http://lacklustre.net/n64/agbd/
00:45 🔗 SketchCow If you go to the burning wreckage of that company nintendo murdered
00:46 🔗 joepie91 I have a transferpak but not a 64drive
00:46 🔗 joepie91 (and it's not my cartridge anyway :P)
00:47 🔗 SketchCow https://archive.org/details/ct_Vision_Return_of_the_Warehouse_Concept_pt_1_12.02.93
00:48 🔗 SketchCow 22 years ago!
00:50 🔗 dashcloud otherwise, there's any number of GB copiers/dumpers floating around- I'll try to dig up a site that has some for sale
00:52 🔗 dashcloud I'm incredibly annoyed that I never bought the GB plugin for the Retrode- the device itself is amazing
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01:07 🔗 dashcloud joepie91: closest I can get you is this page: http://www.hkems.com/m_main.htm What they mean by smart cart, I don't know, and it doesn't appear to be included
01:14 🔗 SketchCow https://archive.org/details/cdrom_Weetabix_Healthy_Eating_Cookbook_CD_-_French_and_English_Versions
01:14 🔗 SketchCow saved forever
01:18 🔗 godane i'm looking at the 2 disc club amiga de montreal set
01:19 🔗 godane its weird to me that both cds are around 400mb
01:19 🔗 godane both cds could all most fit on one
01:32 🔗 joepie91 dashcloud: thanks
01:34 🔗 dashcloud probably not- I think the early CDs were 650 MB as opposed to the later 700 MB ones. That extra 50 MB would make a difference here.
01:36 🔗 godane i was still thinking 650mb
01:37 🔗 godane but again i remember see cds that had data that could fit on to a floppy disk
01:45 🔗 SketchCow You also have to realize that to have hard drives over a certain size were more expensive.
01:45 🔗 SketchCow So you might be able to afford a 300mb hard drive for mastering, but not a 500 or a gig
01:46 🔗 SketchCow Literally thousands of dollars different
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01:52 🔗 godane ok
02:20 🔗 DFJustin maybe they sold them separately for twice the money?
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03:02 🔗 SketchCow Unlikely
03:02 🔗 SketchCow There's a real issue with the space and cost and what the services will do
03:02 🔗 SketchCow Up until 95
03:02 🔗 SketchCow And beyond
03:03 🔗 SketchCow The upload blast continues
03:10 🔗 balrog dashcloud: the gbcartread arduino shield with a couple of tweaks works great
03:11 🔗 balrog how badly do you need one?
03:11 🔗 dashcloud need- not really, want- would be interested
03:11 🔗 balrog joepie91: ^
03:11 🔗 balrog it's made up of a cart connector and a couple of shift registers
03:12 🔗 balrog though the way it's set up the shift registers aren't wired to the spi pins. fixing it to use the spi peripheral speeds it up by a lot
03:13 🔗 joepie91 balrog: just a single cartridge that needs dumping - absolutely nothing to be found about it on the interwebs
03:13 🔗 joepie91 and seemingly rare
03:13 🔗 joepie91 may be some treasure on it
03:13 🔗 joepie91 sometimes the rarer bootlegs have unfinished versions of games, for example...
03:13 🔗 balrog what's it called?
03:13 🔗 balrog what does the title screen look like?
03:13 🔗 balrog joepie91: how good are you with arduino?
03:14 🔗 joepie91 balrog: you'd have to ask SN4T14, he has the cartridge, but here's an image of the cart itself: https://i.imgur.com/gOujDif.jpg
03:14 🔗 joepie91 balrog: also I should say that I do not physically have the cartridge, SN4T14 does :)
03:14 🔗 joepie91 (different country)
03:14 🔗 balrog I don't trust stickers when dealing with bootlegs
03:14 🔗 balrog :p
03:15 🔗 joepie91 balrog: only similar one I've found is http://i.marktplaats.com/00/s/MTAyNFg3Njg=/z/QVgAAOSwy4hUSAaP/$_84.JPG which shares a few games
03:15 🔗 joepie91 but not all
03:15 🔗 balrog oh it's an N-in-one
03:15 🔗 joepie91 yes
03:15 🔗 joepie91 balrog: https://iheartyuna.wordpress.com/page/23/
03:15 🔗 joepie91 this one lists a similar one
03:16 🔗 joepie91 also similar label
03:17 🔗 joepie91 another similar one, but diff games: http://allegro.zapodaj.net/thumbs/dc700f680f61.jpg
03:17 🔗 joepie91 balrog: so yeah, it's potluck really
03:17 🔗 balrog yeah
03:18 🔗 joepie91 one of those "we made 1000 of these on a bored evening" cartridges
03:18 🔗 joepie91 :P
03:18 🔗 joepie91 balrog: but yeah, you'd need to talk to SN4T14 for specifics
03:18 🔗 joepie91 he can probably make a pic of intro screen
03:18 🔗 joepie91 and such
03:18 🔗 joepie91 he'll be back briefly in...
03:18 🔗 joepie91 (sec)
03:19 🔗 joepie91 balrog: either 40 minutes or 1:15 hours
03:19 🔗 joepie91 :P
03:21 🔗 joepie91 balrog: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ShXilxoncbA
03:21 🔗 joepie91 similarly labelled cart
03:21 🔗 joepie91 with video of the intro screen, maybe a handy early reference until SN4T14 is around
03:21 🔗 balrog ohh those
03:21 🔗 balrog yeah definitely need to be dumped
03:22 🔗 balrog https://www.insidegadgets.com/projects/gbcartread-gameboy-cart-reader/
03:22 🔗 joepie91 balrog: ah, what do you know about them?
03:23 🔗 joepie91 hmm... bootleggames wiki doesn't seem to list it, odd
03:27 🔗 joepie91 ohhhh
03:27 🔗 joepie91 balrog: looks like these kind of cartridges may contain games from http://bootleggames.wikia.com/wiki/Yong_Yong
03:28 🔗 balrog fun!
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03:38 🔗 joepie91 huh
03:38 🔗 joepie91 balrog: accidentally ran across http://www.flashkaartshop.nl/
03:39 🔗 joepie91 that's... an interesting little shop
03:39 🔗 balrog oh?
03:39 🔗 balrog btw I don't trust lots of the older copiers with not wiping save data
03:39 🔗 joepie91 they have a ton of weird old stuff, classic consoles/games/accessories, spare parts
03:39 🔗 joepie91 even second-hand 'puters
03:39 🔗 joepie91 and it all seems reasonably priced
03:40 🔗 joepie91 balrog: eg. http://www.flashkaartshop.nl/c-2577388/atari-2600-console-games/
03:40 🔗 balrog ...interesting
03:40 🔗 joepie91 it's not bottom of the barrel cheap, but definitely reasonably priced
03:40 🔗 joepie91 they also sell a bunch of multicarts for all kinds of systems
03:40 🔗 balrog you mean flashcarts?
03:40 🔗 balrog btw there are "best" in flashcarts
03:40 🔗 balrog expensive though for the complex systems
03:40 🔗 balrog cheaper for simple ones
03:40 🔗 joepie91 balrog: no, multicarts
03:41 🔗 joepie91 the name of the shop is misleading
03:41 🔗 joepie91 :)
03:41 🔗 balrog they sell DS flashcarts though
03:41 🔗 joepie91 they seem to have started as an R4-and-such shop, but expanded to other stuff
03:41 🔗 joepie91 yes
03:41 🔗 balrog interesting
03:41 🔗 joepie91 but they also sell a bunch of multicarts
03:41 🔗 joepie91 eg. famicom
03:41 🔗 joepie91 balrog: http://www.flashkaartshop.nl/c-2736068/famicom-console-games/
03:41 🔗 balrog (best for N64 is http://64drive.retroactive.be and for SNES is http://sd2snes.de)
03:42 🔗 balrog hah
03:42 🔗 joepie91 "MegaDuck"?
03:42 🔗 joepie91 that is an existing handheld, apparently
03:42 🔗 joepie91 lol
03:42 🔗 joepie91 http://www.flashkaartshop.nl/c-2382714/retro-console-games-overige-merken/
03:42 🔗 balrog yes
03:42 🔗 joepie91 lolwhat: http://www.flashkaartshop.nl/a-39144410/retro-console-games-overige-merken/mega-duck-spel-cougar-boy-snake-roy-md-018/
03:43 🔗 balrog hmm
03:43 🔗 balrog I should mention this in #messdev
03:43 🔗 joepie91 oh right, ashens reviewed this, heh
03:43 🔗 joepie91 balrog: you should!
03:43 🔗 joepie91 I should poke a few people in the NL retro scene as well, probably
03:43 🔗 balrog we have people there interested in handheld stuff
03:44 🔗 balrog one has managed to figure out how to dump various kinds of mask rom microcontrollers
03:44 🔗 balrog via factory test
03:44 🔗 joepie91 heh
03:44 🔗 joepie91 yeah, I guess this might interest them
03:51 🔗 joepie91 "something not listed on the webshop? feel free to ask! there's a good chance that we still have it for a good price"
03:51 🔗 joepie91 mmm...
03:51 🔗 joepie91 yeah, definitely interesting, they explicitly say they can do requests for retro consoles
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04:29 🔗 joepie91 balrog: still there?
04:29 🔗 balrog yes
04:30 🔗 joepie91 balrog: https://imgur.com/a/hPDqd :D
04:30 🔗 joepie91 it's of that similar looking type that I linked a video of, it seems!
04:31 🔗 Lord_Nigh balrog: tell kevtris about the megaduck stuff
04:31 🔗 Lord_Nigh iirc he was after some of that
04:32 🔗 * joepie91 notes that he can proxy-buy and reship stuff from NL if necessary
04:32 🔗 balrog Lord_Nigh: I see vtech crap too
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04:40 🔗 joepie91 neat: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TuEBKV6T5aU
04:41 🔗 balrog 64drive has the everdrive beat
04:41 🔗 balrog don't think it was widely available at the time though
04:41 🔗 joepie91 I mean the console :D
04:41 🔗 balrog oh
04:41 🔗 balrog heh
04:53 🔗 joepie91 balrog: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7eBwHq144_M
04:53 🔗 joepie91 surprisingly well-done review of one of those shitty knockoffs
04:53 🔗 joepie91 heh
04:54 🔗 balrog joepie91: lol
04:54 🔗 balrog btw you know of the iQue?
04:54 🔗 balrog (the original N64 based one)
04:54 🔗 joepie91 balrog: nop
04:55 🔗 joepie91 HOLD ON
04:55 🔗 joepie91 whoa!
04:55 🔗 joepie91 balrog: that console I linked the review of
04:55 🔗 joepie91 it has some of the jungletac games!
04:55 🔗 joepie91 :o
04:55 🔗 joepie91 well, derivatives of them
04:55 🔗 joepie91 it seems
04:56 🔗 joepie91 balrog: https://archive.org/search.php?query=jungletac
04:57 🔗 joepie91 my Dingoo A320 shipped with some of them
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05:11 🔗 joepie91 ahhhh
05:11 🔗 joepie91 it's this console, apparently: http://bootleggames.wikia.com/wiki/Sport_Vii
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05:13 🔗 joepie91 balrog: who do I tell about my JungleTAC roms?
05:13 🔗 joepie91 (the ones I linked)
05:13 🔗 balrog you have those?
05:14 🔗 joepie91 yes, see the archive.org link above
05:14 🔗 joepie91 they're from the same people as the sport vii
05:14 🔗 joepie91 it seems there are no publicized dumps yet
05:14 🔗 joepie91 other than the ones I uploaded
05:14 🔗 balrog lemme link them
05:14 🔗 joepie91 so perhaps somebody is looking for them?
05:14 🔗 joepie91 alright :P
05:14 🔗 balrog they should be added to MESS
05:14 🔗 joepie91 fwiw, they were shipped as ROMs on a Dingoo A320
05:14 🔗 joepie91 for completely unclear reasons, the A320 has native JungleTAC game support
05:15 🔗 joepie91 as in, it runs it as a 'native game', rather than using an emulator, but it's not a uc/OS binary
05:15 🔗 joepie91 apparently only some A320s shipped with them, so I figured I'd upload them :P
05:16 🔗 balrog hmm, the dingoo has a sunplus spg core?
05:16 🔗 joepie91 balrog: I don't think it does, sec
05:16 🔗 joepie91 it's some jz chip
05:16 🔗 joepie91 balrog: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dingoo_A320#Hardware
05:17 🔗 balrog so what *are* these roms?
05:17 🔗 joepie91 I also have a bunch of firmware dumps, unbricking tools, and modded firmwares laying around
05:17 🔗 balrog dingoo a320 programs?
05:17 🔗 balrog huh!
05:17 🔗 joepie91 (for the A320)
05:17 🔗 joepie91 balrog: well, I believe they are /technically/ not uc/OS binaries (the OS that the A320 runs)
05:17 🔗 joepie91 from what I recall
05:17 🔗 joepie91 hold on, I had a source on this somewhere
05:18 🔗 joepie91 okay, so it claims that they "play via the GBA emulator" but I'm not sure that's correct, unless they hardcoded that
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05:18 🔗 joepie91 because you boot them via "3d game" (means "native games"), not via "interesting game" (which is "emulated games")
05:18 🔗 joepie91 http://s4.zetaboards.com/PGC_Forums/topic/8963358/1/
05:19 🔗 joepie91 not sure if the ones I uploaded and the GBA version are identical
05:19 🔗 joepie91 that thread has some good info it seems
05:20 🔗 balrog Official Dingoo have JungleTAC games that the GBA emulator loads/plays. These do NOT work on unofficial Dingoos.
05:20 🔗 joepie91 let's have a look...
05:20 🔗 balrog Current best guess is that these rom files are for 16 bit Sunplus SPG260 System-on-a-Chip.
05:20 🔗 joepie91 yes, but the dingoos don't use that chip, that's the weird thing
05:20 🔗 joepie91 none of them ever have
05:20 🔗 joepie91 not even the clones
05:21 🔗 balrog "I tested them in VisualBoyAdvance, and they work! The games included are:
05:21 🔗 balrog "
05:21 🔗 balrog so that probably means there's an spg emulator in arm
05:21 🔗 joepie91 hmm..
05:21 🔗 balrog or just GBA ports
05:22 🔗 joepie91 balrog: my uploads on IA are binary identical to the ones in that zip
05:22 🔗 joepie91 which are claimed to be GBA roms
05:22 🔗 joepie91 I think I renamed them because of that thread
05:22 🔗 joepie91 original filenames were <numbers>.TAC
05:22 🔗 joepie91 or somesuch
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06:45 🔗 yipdw clique-local Whuffie-like system for determining whether you and someone else on a social network are likely to get along
06:45 🔗 yipdw wordspew end
06:51 🔗 joepie91 yipdw: did you eat startup soup again
06:51 🔗 yipdw sort of
06:51 🔗 * joepie91 is having hosting troubles...
06:51 🔗 yipdw I saw all the hubblaboo about Twitter verified accounts and I'm like "wtf it's just a bit"
06:52 🔗 Control-S huh?
06:52 🔗 yipdw and it doesn't seem to me that verification will reduce harassment
06:53 🔗 yipdw anyway, I was just throwing out some idea for "can I trust this account"
06:53 🔗 joepie91 of course it won't
06:53 🔗 joepie91 the biggest dicks are people who don't care about their reputations
06:53 🔗 yipdw it's a super-hard problem and I have not solved it
06:53 🔗 joepie91 so...
06:53 🔗 joepie91 that's not a problem you solve by attaching a reputation
06:53 🔗 joepie91 lol
06:55 🔗 yipdw I think the idea is that attaching some sort of real-world significance to an identity has a punitive effect
06:55 🔗 yipdw but that hasn't really shown up
06:55 🔗 yipdw not on Google+ or Twitter at least
06:57 🔗 joepie91 it's a theory that has been thoroughly non-proven throughout the past 10 years
06:57 🔗 joepie91 :P
06:57 🔗 ersi ah~ technical solutions to social issues.. :)
06:58 🔗 ersi the only thing using real names/identities have proven is that people put less weight on it the longer it goes
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10:57 🔗 schbirid http://cispa.saarland/wp-content/uploads/2015/02/MongoDB_documentation.pdf
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11:00 🔗 * joepie91 slow clap
11:01 🔗 joepie91 schbirid: move fast, break things!
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11:03 🔗 schbirid get acquired, drop past, fuck people, profit
11:04 🔗 joepie91 also rm -rf
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12:10 🔗 godane so i just found out about IT's Showtime site by microsoft
12:10 🔗 godane its not up anymore
12:11 🔗 godane but i can get the zip files of the presentations
12:25 🔗 godane so i found technet radio
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12:58 🔗 godane so good news on the IT's showtime video
12:58 🔗 godane i maybe able to grab it
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13:01 🔗 dashcloud joepie91: good news! you can play the Mega Duck and Cougar Boy online!https://archive.org/details/consolelivingroom
13:01 🔗 joepie91 why am I not surprised
13:01 🔗 joepie91 :P
13:02 🔗 joepie91 it doesn't even have snake roy!
13:11 🔗 godane so i have way more zip download files from it's showtime then way back does
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13:59 🔗 balrog dashcloud, joepie91: thanks to MESS :)
13:59 🔗 balrog joepie91: if it doesn't have something then it probably is undumped
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14:25 🔗 godane so i think kickass has alot of end the herpes ads
14:25 🔗 godane like all on the top and the side
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15:05 🔗 DFJustin snake roy is dumped
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15:07 🔗 DFJustin http://www.progettoemma.net/mess/results.php?list=megaduck
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15:11 🔗 SketchCow Loading the rental truck with boxes.
15:12 🔗 ersi SketchCow: Moving? Or just relocating boxes?
15:13 🔗 SketchCow magazines
15:13 🔗 ersi ah~
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