#archiveteam-bs 2015-02-28,Sat

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00:01 🔗 DFJustin I know one way to find out
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00:07 🔗 DFJustin [20:30:25] <underscor> It's just 7z l, so it's not too expensive
00:07 🔗 DFJustin [20:43:52] <underscor> results are cached for 24h after last request too though
00:07 🔗 DFJustin [20:43:59] <underscor> so it's not as expensive if it gets popular
00:07 🔗 DFJustin [20:45:28] <underscor> we want it to be a first class citizen!
00:13 🔗 schbirid ah, so that 24h is why my tests were so slow
00:13 🔗 schbirid thanks
00:15 🔗 xmc the most effective way to get IA to fix a bug is to give them a few hundred items that exhibit the problem
00:16 🔗 xmc the devs there prioritize actual pain points
00:18 🔗 yipdw a bit like massage therapists
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01:37 🔗 balrog lelandbat: how about animated webp?
01:37 🔗 balrog plus webpjs or something such
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04:06 🔗 joepie91_ https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ATUANyWfqFM
04:06 🔗 joepie91_ http://www.bbc.co.uk/taster/projects/story-of-now
04:06 🔗 joepie91_ it's region-locked to the UK
04:06 🔗 joepie91_ and will apparently be removed in 2 months
04:06 🔗 joepie91_ and presumably "interactive"
04:06 🔗 joepie91_ can somebody work on grabbing this?
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04:40 🔗 yipdw ""DHS Might Shut Down on Friday: Should You Be Worried?"" heh
04:40 🔗 yipdw omgwereallgonnadie
04:42 🔗 Ctrl-S who is DHS?
04:44 🔗 xmc the agency in the usa that harasses people who are trying to get on a goddamn airplane
04:46 🔗 Ctrl-S You guys should just get them all drunk
04:46 🔗 Ctrl-S if they're passed out drunk then they can't harrass you
05:07 🔗 chfoo could a few people check if https://mysp.ac/11Ti works and what country?
05:09 🔗 xmc redirects me to www.empirewatches.co.uk
05:09 🔗 xmc i'm in the usa
05:10 🔗 xmc northwest, aka seattle
05:10 🔗 Ctrl-S western aust on firefox and windows 7, redirects to http://www.empirewatches.co.uk//
05:12 🔗 chfoo thanks. i think their load balancer must be broken then
05:12 🔗 aaaaaaaaa USA, error page
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05:22 🔗 godane i'm grabbing old BBC urls
05:22 🔗 godane they still have them and we don't
05:22 🔗 godane like this one: http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/europe/536017.stm
05:23 🔗 godane i'm grabing the files first so i can make a index
05:23 🔗 godane the index will then be used for to make a web archive
05:35 🔗 godane so i found something interesting
05:35 🔗 godane it will at least make my job easier
05:35 🔗 godane all the number urls are the same with bbc
05:36 🔗 godane for example
05:36 🔗 godane http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/europe/536017.stm and http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk/536017.stm get you the same page
05:37 🔗 godane looks like http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/536017.stm give you the same page
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05:43 🔗 godane just for people to know the number dates are all over the place
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06:10 🔗 joepie91_ fuckssake
06:10 🔗 joepie91_ so I assume everybody heard about IS destroying a museum and library?
06:10 🔗 Ctrl-S bastards
06:11 🔗 Ctrl-S can we do anything to stop this?
06:11 🔗 xmc asswipes indeed
06:11 🔗 Ctrl-S i'd put a tenner towards a napalm bombing run
06:12 🔗 Ctrl-S or can we convince the middle eastern museums to take up more digitization?
06:12 🔗 godane some digitization will be just to document the item
06:13 🔗 Ctrl-S like get every page of every book scanned
06:13 🔗 godane i would like that
06:14 🔗 Ctrl-S how would we go about getting that started?
06:14 🔗 Ctrl-S hold a fundraiser and get our arab members to do it?
06:14 🔗 godane one way is to get the stuff out of country
06:14 🔗 DFJustin dunno about the middle east, there's one for timbuktu where they're also dealing with extremist fucksticks https://t160k.org/campaign/libraries-in-exile/
06:16 🔗 Ctrl-S can we send book scanners to these libraries?
06:16 🔗 Ctrl-S ask librarians to scan rarest books first?
06:17 🔗 DFJustin also some amount of manuscripts were similarly spirited out of mosul http://www.ncregister.com/daily-news/iraqi-priests-protect-historic-christian-writings-from-islamic-state/
06:17 🔗 Ctrl-S These books should have been copied years ago when they were discovered
06:18 🔗 DFJustin it's a tremendously big job
06:18 🔗 DFJustin and the technology to do it well hasn't existed for very long
06:20 🔗 Ctrl-S :I well we need to get something going to start
06:20 🔗 Ctrl-S how can i help out?
06:20 🔗 DFJustin even big well-funded libraries in western countries are still working through their manuscript collections
06:21 🔗 godane just a thought
06:21 🔗 godane with the digital we should do high res prints of the digital on acid free paper
06:22 🔗 godane or something
06:22 🔗 Ctrl-S cheaper to colocate isn't it?
06:23 🔗 godane the acid free paper thing is for stuff thats turning into dust
06:23 🔗 godane or has some sort of mold on it
06:23 🔗 DFJustin like, the first timbuktu fundraiser was just to buy proper boxes to keep all the stuff from exposure to the elements
06:23 🔗 DFJustin let alone buying cameras and computers and paying people to go through it all page by page
06:25 🔗 godane https://soundcloud.com/glennbeck/glenn-beck-presents-armageddon-the-rise-of-the-caliphate-22715
06:26 🔗 Ctrl-S he said something not crazy?
06:26 🔗 godane i think glenn tries to explains why they burn the libraries
06:26 🔗 DFJustin now they're cataloguing it all because we don't even know which are the most rare ones when they're all just in unmarked piles
06:27 🔗 DFJustin so I want it all digitized yesterday too but it's totally understandable
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06:30 🔗 DFJustin I think iraqi and syrian christians are way more worried about not being shot and thrown in a ditch at this point so I don't know when there will be a project to contribute to
06:32 🔗 Control-S muslims like archiving too right?
06:33 🔗 Control-S i never really bothered with what religions like what
06:33 🔗 DFJustin they certainly can, the new library of alexandria has done some good stuff lately
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06:35 🔗 godane Ctrl-S: just know the caliphate was something glenn talk about in 2009
06:35 🔗 godane then in 2014 every news outlet start talking about
06:35 🔗 godane he as also the one on NSA storing everything
06:36 🔗 Ctrl-S if only the NSA had an archivist
06:37 🔗 DFJustin alexandria reference http://laughingsquid.com/digital-amnesia-a-documentary-about-the-limited-shelf-life-of-digital-data/
06:41 🔗 godane https://archive.org/details/tv?q=Caliphate
06:53 🔗 joepie91_ unrelated note: blogger is reverting their "no more nudity" policy
06:53 🔗 joepie91_ so we'll probably have a year of leeway before they try it again
06:53 🔗 joepie91_ :P
06:54 🔗 godane or it just happens without warning
06:54 🔗 joepie91_ or that
06:54 🔗 Ctrl-S we shoudlarchive it all ASAP
06:55 🔗 Ctrl-S put up instructions on how to save a blog pls, like what commands to run so that us idiots can do it too
08:04 🔗 godane a article that glenn says is from a left-wing magazine: http://www.theatlantic.com/features/archive/2015/02/what-isis-really-wants/384980/
08:05 🔗 godane http://www.theatlantic.com/international/archive/2015/02/what-isis-really-wants-reader-response-atlantic/385710/
08:35 🔗 ersi http://techcrunch.com/2014/12/15/how-to-speak-startup/
08:35 🔗 ersi lol
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17:18 🔗 Start http://www.michaelgeist.ca/2015/02/rogers-executive-calls-canadian-government-shut-vpns/
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17:54 🔗 yipdw shopping for a TLS cert CA is hard
17:55 🔗 yipdw you need to not only know prices but whether or not they're in most people's trusted roots
17:56 🔗 yipdw Let's Encrypt can't come online fast enough
17:57 🔗 dashcloud how does it work if you're using Cloudflare? they're offering certs now- so do you get one for your site and one from cloudflare for hosting there?
17:58 🔗 yipdw CloudFlare might work but I don't want to try putting Jenkins behind it
17:58 🔗 yipdw too many POSTs
18:00 🔗 yipdw dashcloud: unless that sort of thing is known to work, heh
18:02 🔗 yipdw well, it's free, might as well try it out
18:03 🔗 mhazinsk yipdw: try wosign or startssl, both are free and trusted
18:04 🔗 yipdw mhazinsk: haven't heard of wosign before, will check that out
18:10 🔗 mhazinsk they allow 100 hosts per cert, which is amazing fo a free CA
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20:13 🔗 ionpulse did anyone happen to grab computerandvideogames.com?
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20:17 🔗 garyrh_ Looks like it: http://archive.fart.website/archivebot/viewer/?q=computerandvideogames.com
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20:27 🔗 ionpulse ok good that it grabbed something recent
20:27 🔗 ionpulse as the site just went down
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20:28 🔗 ionpulse as in terminated as they are consolidating the content into gamesradar
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21:11 🔗 DFJustin https://i.imgur.com/JRjdoVf.gif
21:32 🔗 godane i'm uploading The Web Ahead podcast
21:32 🔗 godane all of them
21:32 🔗 godane https://archive.org/details/The_Web_Ahead_1
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23:54 🔗 godane i'm downloading the 1xxxx urls of bbc news
23:54 🔗 godane these got back to 1998/1999
23:54 🔗 godane *go back
23:54 🔗 godane its also grabbing every image on the pages too
23:55 🔗 godane i take that back
23:56 🔗 godane the urls are from 1997

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