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wyatt8750 |
I wish Safari and Internet Explorer would get their shit together and support webm and/or ogg video |
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I am highly annoyed by patents |
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wyatt8750 |
(and having to encode my video twice) |
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I was very glad to see that cisco released its x264 library under a BSD license |
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wyatt8750 |
it may not be as full-featured as libx264, but it's definitely a good thing to have a more 'free' library. (I like GPL, but while it may undermine the licenses' strength to say this, I think that the freedom to use a product in closed source products is an important right) |
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wyatt8750 |
That said, I would NEVER EVER write a proprietary program, especially using BSD/GPL/Public Domain/WTFPL/MIT/Whatever-I-Missed libraries |
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wyatt8750: an LGPL H.264 decoder's been part of ffmpeg for a while |
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yipdw |
and the encoder's license certainly doesn't carry into generated bitstreams |
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wyatt8750 |
I am talking about encoding, but I was pretty sure a decoder existed |
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yipdw |
I mean at this point not using x264 to encode H.264 for licensing reasons is pretty silly heh |
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wyatt8750 |
I know about that, but I am talking about the freedom to make some proprietary program that encodes x264 with a free library |
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wyatt8750 |
I use x264, and I am fine with GPL for my purposes |
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yipdw |
sure, I just mean everyone else |
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wyatt8750 |
because I share any code I write |
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but I dont like how GPL claims to be about freedom but takes away a person's right to use the code in a non-free product |
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wyatt8750 |
Since I have no reason to do such a thing, I am satisfied with GPL programs |
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wyatt8750 |
but philosophically I would never choose to write code under it |
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yipdw |
I disagree, but there's a whole minefield there and I left my metal detector at home |
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(if it was not a pre-existing project) |
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yipdw |
more H.264 encoding libraries is good I guess |
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yipdw |
though in terms of quality it's pretty hard to beat x264 heh |
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wyatt8750 |
Information wants to be free - and while I disapprove of proprietary programs because I like modifying them, I don't like the idea of taking a freedom in the name of freedom |
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Yeah, I use x264 for nearly anything i encode |
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but I really wish that webm would a) catch on and b) be faster to encode. Libvpx is terribly slow |
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I personally am extremely happy we have projects like ffmpeg. I am just talking about a contradiction that bugs me from time to time about the GPL |
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yipdw |
yeah, it's an odd thing. I can't speak for anyone else, but I made my peace with it when I convinced myself that the GPL and the GNU manifesto are inseparable |
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[03:33] <wyatt8750> but I dont like how GPL claims to be about freedom but takes away a person's right to use the code in a non-free product |
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joepie91_ |
how I generally phrase it: forcing somebody to share code instead of forcing somebody *not* to share code, is still forcing somebody |
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hm. when PUTting multiple files to S3 with auto-make-bucket, do the PUTs need to be sequential, or can they run in parallel? |
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to the same bucket, I mean - like the HTML5 uploader does when selecting multiple files |
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Ctrl-S |
anyone have existing code for saving highest quality from http://gfycat.com/ ? |
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Rotab |
are there more than 1? |
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Rotab |
apart from gif/webm |
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garyrh |
there's also mp4. |
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Rotab |
ah, hm |
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Ctrl-S |
should i just ask youtube-dl to add the site's i want to save? |
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Ctrl-S |
and if so, how much preliminary work should i do? |
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Rotab |
youtube-dl can grab gfycat |
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Rotab |
but it seems like --format doesn twork, sou you'll get both mp4 and webm |
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Ctrl-S |
I thought otherwise, based on the supportedsites file |
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Ctrl-S |
https://github.com/rg3/youtube-dl/blob/master/docs/supportedsites.md |
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Ctrl-S |
anyone here requested functionality from them before and know what info would help get it done? |
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joepie91_ |
Ctrl-S: create an issue, give at least one example URL: |
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joepie91_ |
if they have different formats (gallery pages, upload pages, playlists, whatever) make sure to provide an example URL for each format |
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joepie91_ |
if you happen to know how to parse out the URLs, just add any info you have about it (otherwise they will figure it out) |
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Rotab |
oh wait, --format does work |
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joepie91_ |
that's more or less it |
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joepie91_ |
(this applies to scraping modules/tools in general) |
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Rotab |
youtube-dl -f webm https://gfycat.com/JadedYellowBengaltiger |
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Rotab |
or mp4 |
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Ctrl-S |
it does seem to work |
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Rotab |
strange that its not in the lost |
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joepie91_ |
(same applies if something doesn't work - just make sure to provide an example URL of every failing cast) |
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joepie91_ |
case * |
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Rotab |
list * |
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joepie91_ |
fwiw, the youtube-dl guys are generally pretty responsive :) |
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Ctrl-S |
so it'd be worth asking for them to officially support it, even though it "just works"? |
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joepie91_ |
yep |
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ersi_ |
Rotab: Not all that strange. Documentation isn't the priotized part of any project, although some projects are pretty darn good at it |
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joepie91_ |
ersi_: I would disagree, for my 'reusable' projects (stuff that I intend for a general audience to use), documentation is a priority :) |
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joepie91_ |
eg. I've dropped what I was doing in the past to fix an error in the bhttp documentation |
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joepie91_ |
as soon as it was reported |
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ersi_ |
Add 'most' between 'the' and 'prioritized' |
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ersi_ |
Why is there so many fucking pedants in IT |
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ersi_ |
Yea yea yea you have one data point that suggests otherwise, maybe, now I'm wrong forever |
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ersi_ |
You win four internets |
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joepie91_ |
ersi_: you did say 'any' ;) |
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ersi_ |
and for people who aren't pedants, that does not mean "every single one, without exceptions" |
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joepie91_ |
I'm sure :) |
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because in IT if you're off by one you can break things |
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ersi |
Not in informal communication about a trivial subject |
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joepie91_ |
ersi: unfortunately such 'informal statements' tend to be extrapolated into hard truths by many, and I get to spend the rest of my day arguing such inaccurate perceptions instead of getting work done, at moments where the accuracy of the statement actually matters |
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example case: "all software has vulnerabilities, so these zpanel developers really can't be blamed for the vulns in their code, and there's no problem with running zpanel" |
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ersi |
That's the other funny thing with pedants |
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ersi |
they suck on that dick of a caramel for a while and then start talking fucking semantics forever |
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joepie91_ |
wat |
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joepie91_ |
https://gist.github.com/joepie91/7134c58c88f040365260 |
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joepie91_ |
dum dum dum... |
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midas1 |
explain joepie91_ |
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joepie91_ |
midas1: takes a folder with a season of Lost episodes |
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joepie91_ |
mass-uploads them to IA with the correct metadata |
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joepie91_ |
grabbed from tvdb (for episode data) and using mediainfo (for file data) |
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joepie91_ |
https://gist.github.com/joepie91/aac1e66c785a93391d11 |
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joepie91_ |
and made in such a way that almost everything is abstracted into reusable functions |
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joepie91_ |
so I can put together such an uploader for any series in a few minutes, pretty much |
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joepie91_ |
sort of an ad-hoc framework |
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joepie91_ |
:D |
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midas1 |
nice |
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joepie91_ |
but yeah, I'll be using it for more stuff |
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joepie91_ |
I'm working on a graphical client for IA |
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joepie91_ |
but until that is done |
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joepie91_ |
I just write some custom upload scripts to free up disk space |
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joepie91_ |
and get stuff into IA |
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midas1 |
'4TB should be enough for everyone!' |
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joepie91_ |
graphical client will prob take a while |
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midas1 |
its not. |
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midas1 |
:p |
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joepie91_ |
(and when I say graphical client, I mean a batch uploading/digitizing client - basically combining batch upload interface with metadata templates, with stuff like batch scanner / optical drive automation, and so on) |
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joepie91_ |
(so I can just do all my archiving stuffs from within one interface) |
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wyatt8750 |
<joepie91_> how I generally phrase it: forcing somebody to share code instead of forcing somebody *not* to share code, is still forcing somebody |
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agreed |
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balrog |
wyatt8750: it's forcing the other person to not place additional restrictions on their code, thereby keeping the code free |
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balrog |
(of said additional restrictions) |
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aaaaaaaaa |
As said earlier, GNU poisoned the well on purpose because that fit the goal of the project. Same reason Creative Commons created the Share-Alike restriction. |
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xmc |
thought of the hour: hypothetically, the wtfpl precludes use of wtfpl-licensed code in hostile work environments |
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ersi |
wtf.pl |
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aaaaaaaaa |
Of course, most discussions of copyright end up with people talking past each other or turning into "copyright has uses" vs "eradicate it completely." |
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ersi |
blurgh at gpl vs other free licenses |
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ersi |
i mean really |
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ersi |
that discussion? |
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aaaaaaaaa |
xmc: technically, you can just use a copy of the code without including the license. |
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xmc |
but what if you don't want to have anything to do with it |
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aaaaaaaaa |
umm, have an employee on their own free time relicense their copy into the "do what you want license with no swears" or DWYWLWNS? |
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joepie91 |
[22:12] <xmc> thought of the hour: hypothetically, the wtfpl precludes use of wtfpl-licensed code in hostile work environments |
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joepie91 |
in a way, you are correct |
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joepie91 |
however, the decision lies with the entity using the code |
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joepie91 |
not with the entity distributing the code |
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xmc |
huh? |
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joepie91 |
if a certain company does not wish to use WTFPL-licensed code because of the language in the license |
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joepie91 |
then that is a decision by that company |
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joepie91 |
not by the author who licensed it under the WTFPL |
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joepie91 |
thus it is not a restriction imposed by the author |
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xmc |
i'm not talking about that |
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xmc |
if i hate my job |
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xmc |
and my boss wants me to use wtfpl licensed library |
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xmc |
if i do it grudgingly, i am breaking the license terms |
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xmc |
because i don't want to |
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xmc |
capisce? |
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joepie91 |
oh |
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joepie91 |
heh |
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joepie91 |
hm. |
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joepie91 |
that's actually a god point, heh |
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Jonimus |
counterpoint, you want to get paid so you'll do it anyway. |
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Jonimus |
which means you do "want" to use the code, you just wish you didn't have too. |
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aaaaaaaaa |
maybe it's more of the general inclination sense |
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joepie91 |
interesting |
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joepie91 |
looks like I now operate the only Bitcoin VPS list |
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joepie91 |
that still exists |
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joepie91 |
the Bitcoin wiki nuked theirs |
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