[00:12] *** kyan has joined #archiveteam-bs [00:20] *** mistym has quit IRC (Quit: Leaving) [00:39] I wish Safari and Internet Explorer would get their shit together and support webm and/or ogg video [00:40] I am highly annoyed by patents [00:40] (and having to encode my video twice) [00:40] I was very glad to see that cisco released its x264 library under a BSD license [00:41] *** erbylnt has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection) [00:42] it may not be as full-featured as libx264, but it's definitely a good thing to have a more 'free' library. (I like GPL, but while it may undermine the licenses' strength to say this, I think that the freedom to use a product in closed source products is an important right) [00:43] That said, I would NEVER EVER write a proprietary program, especially using BSD/GPL/Public Domain/WTFPL/MIT/Whatever-I-Missed libraries [01:07] *** brayden has quit IRC (Read error: Connection reset by peer) [01:08] *** dashcloud has quit IRC (Read error: Operation timed out) [01:09] *** brayden has joined #archiveteam-bs [01:18] *** dashcloud has joined #archiveteam-bs [01:23] *** dashcloud has quit IRC (Read error: Operation timed out) [01:26] *** dashcloud has joined #archiveteam-bs [01:31] *** brayden has quit IRC (Read error: Connection reset by peer) [01:32] wyatt8750: an LGPL H.264 decoder's been part of ffmpeg for a while [01:32] and the encoder's license certainly doesn't carry into generated bitstreams [01:32] I am talking about encoding, but I was pretty sure a decoder existed [01:33] I mean at this point not using x264 to encode H.264 for licensing reasons is pretty silly heh [01:33] I know about that, but I am talking about the freedom to make some proprietary program that encodes x264 with a free library [01:33] I use x264, and I am fine with GPL for my purposes [01:33] sure, I just mean everyone else [01:33] because I share any code I write [01:33] but I dont like how GPL claims to be about freedom but takes away a person's right to use the code in a non-free product [01:34] Since I have no reason to do such a thing, I am satisfied with GPL programs [01:34] but philosophically I would never choose to write code under it [01:34] I disagree, but there's a whole minefield there and I left my metal detector at home [01:34] (if it was not a pre-existing project) [01:34] *** mistym has joined #archiveteam-bs [01:35] more H.264 encoding libraries is good I guess [01:35] though in terms of quality it's pretty hard to beat x264 heh [01:35] Information wants to be free - and while I disapprove of proprietary programs because I like modifying them, I don't like the idea of taking a freedom in the name of freedom [01:35] Yeah, I use x264 for nearly anything i encode [01:36] but I really wish that webm would a) catch on and b) be faster to encode. Libvpx is terribly slow [01:37] I personally am extremely happy we have projects like ffmpeg. I am just talking about a contradiction that bugs me from time to time about the GPL [01:44] yeah, it's an odd thing. I can't speak for anyone else, but I made my peace with it when I convinced myself that the GPL and the GNU manifesto are inseparable [01:47] *** mistym has quit IRC (Leaving...) 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[05:04] hm. when PUTting multiple files to S3 with auto-make-bucket, do the PUTs need to be sequential, or can they run in parallel? [05:05] to the same bucket, I mean - like the HTML5 uploader does when selecting multiple files [06:30] *** mistym_ has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection) [07:10] *** primus104 has joined #archiveteam-bs [07:10] *** dashcloud has joined #archiveteam-bs [07:10] *** chfoo- has joined #archiveteam-bs [07:10] *** xmc has joined #archiveteam-bs [07:10] *** godane has joined #archiveteam-bs [07:10] *** BlueMaxim has joined #archiveteam-bs [07:10] *** raylee has joined #archiveteam-bs [07:10] *** SN4T14__ has joined #archiveteam-bs [07:10] *** phillipsj has joined #archiveteam-bs [07:10] *** ersi_ has joined #archiveteam-bs [07:10] *** Famicoma1 has joined #archiveteam-bs [07:10] *** balrog has joined #archiveteam-bs [07:10] *** ny.us.hub sets mode: +oooo chfoo- xmc ersi_ balrog [07:10] *** Rickster has joined #archiveteam-bs [07:10] *** Muad-Dib has joined #archiveteam-bs [07:10] *** edsu_ has joined #archiveteam-bs [07:10] *** deathy has joined #archiveteam-bs [07:10] *** johtso has joined #archiveteam-bs [07:10] *** dan_ has joined #archiveteam-bs [07:10] *** LittUp has joined #archiveteam-bs [07:10] *** Sue_ has joined #archiveteam-bs [07:10] *** jk[SVP] has joined #archiveteam-bs [07:10] *** serapeum has joined #archiveteam-bs [07:10] *** wm_ has joined #archiveteam-bs [07:10] *** chfoo has joined #archiveteam-bs [07:10] *** antomatic has joined #archiveteam-bs [07:10] *** Infreq has joined #archiveteam-bs [07:10] *** Cameron_D has joined #archiveteam-bs [07:10] *** slash` has joined #archiveteam-bs [07:10] *** twrist has joined #archiveteam-bs [07:10] *** espes___ has joined #archiveteam-bs [07:10] *** closure has joined #archiveteam-bs [07:10] *** ny.us.hub sets mode: +oooo chfoo Cameron_D twrist closure [07:10] *** ben__ has joined #archiveteam-bs [07:10] *** SketchCow has joined #archiveteam-bs [07:10] *** Mayonaise has joined #archiveteam-bs [07:10] *** wacky has joined #archiveteam-bs [07:10] *** Rotab has joined #archiveteam-bs [07:10] *** Kazzy has joined #archiveteam-bs [07:10] *** Sk1d has joined #archiveteam-bs [07:10] *** pwnsrv has joined #archiveteam-bs [07:10] *** Kirk has joined #archiveteam-bs [07:10] *** Fusl has joined #archiveteam-bs [07:10] *** fx_ has joined #archiveteam-bs [07:10] *** nico_32 has joined #archiveteam-bs [07:10] *** RedType has joined #archiveteam-bs [07:10] *** ny.us.hub sets mode: +o SketchCow [07:10] *** swebb sets mode: +o xmc [07:10] *** swebb sets mode: +o balrog [07:10] *** swebb sets mode: +o SketchCow [07:11] *** twrist sets mode: +o underscor [07:11] *** twrist sets mode: +o Smiley [07:11] *** twrist sets mode: +o swebb [07:11] *** twrist sets mode: +o S[h]O[r]T [07:18] *** garyrh has joined #archiveteam-bs [07:24] anyone have existing code for saving highest quality from http://gfycat.com/ ? [07:28] are there more than 1? [07:29] apart from gif/webm [07:29] there's also mp4. [07:40] ah, hm [07:43] should i just ask youtube-dl to add the site's i want to save? [07:43] and if so, how much preliminary work should i do? [07:44] youtube-dl can grab gfycat [07:44] but it seems like --format doesn twork, sou you'll get both mp4 and webm [07:44] I thought otherwise, based on the supportedsites file [07:44] https://github.com/rg3/youtube-dl/blob/master/docs/supportedsites.md [07:45] anyone here requested functionality from them before and know what info would help get it done? [07:47] Ctrl-S: create an issue, give at least one example URL: [07:47] if they have different formats (gallery pages, upload pages, playlists, whatever) make sure to provide an example URL for each format [07:48] if you happen to know how to parse out the URLs, just add any info you have about it (otherwise they will figure it out) [07:48] oh wait, --format does work [07:48] that's more or less it [07:48] (this applies to scraping modules/tools in general) [07:48] youtube-dl -f webm https://gfycat.com/JadedYellowBengaltiger [07:49] or mp4 [07:49] it does seem to work [07:50] strange that its not in the lost [07:50] (same applies if something doesn't work - just make sure to provide an example URL of every failing cast) [07:50] case * [07:50] list * [07:51] fwiw, the youtube-dl guys are generally pretty responsive :) [07:52] so it'd be worth asking for them to officially support it, even though it "just works"? [07:52] yep [07:58] *** schbirid has joined #archiveteam-bs [08:58] Rotab: Not all that strange. Documentation isn't the priotized part of any project, although some projects are pretty darn good at it [09:04] ersi_: I would disagree, for my 'reusable' projects (stuff that I intend for a general audience to use), documentation is a priority :) [09:04] eg. I've dropped what I was doing in the past to fix an error in the bhttp documentation [09:04] as soon as it was reported [09:07] Add 'most' between 'the' and 'prioritized' [09:08] Why is there so many fucking pedants in IT [09:08] Yea yea yea you have one data point that suggests otherwise, maybe, now I'm wrong forever [09:08] You win four internets [09:09] ersi_: you did say 'any' ;) [09:09] and for people who aren't pedants, that does not mean "every single one, without exceptions" [09:09] *** ersi_ is now known as ersi [09:09] I'm sure :) [09:22] *** primus104 has quit IRC (Leaving.) [09:24] because in IT if you're off by one you can break things [09:27] *** useretail has joined #archiveteam-bs [09:30] Not in informal communication about a trivial subject [10:54] ersi: unfortunately such 'informal statements' tend to be extrapolated into hard truths by many, and I get to spend the rest of my day arguing such inaccurate perceptions instead of getting work done, at moments where the accuracy of the statement actually matters [10:55] example case: "all software has vulnerabilities, so these zpanel developers really can't be blamed for the vulns in their code, and there's no problem with running zpanel" [10:56] That's the other funny thing with pedants [10:56] they suck on that dick of a caramel for a while and then start talking fucking semantics forever [10:57] wat [11:09] https://gist.github.com/joepie91/7134c58c88f040365260 [11:09] dum dum dum... [11:14] explain joepie91_ [11:16] midas1: takes a folder with a season of Lost episodes [11:16] mass-uploads them to IA with the correct metadata [11:17] grabbed from tvdb (for episode data) and using mediainfo (for file data) [11:17] https://gist.github.com/joepie91/aac1e66c785a93391d11 [11:17] and made in such a way that almost everything is abstracted into reusable functions [11:17] so I can put together such an uploader for any series in a few minutes, pretty much [11:18] sort of an ad-hoc framework [11:18] :D [11:19] nice [11:20] but yeah, I'll be using it for more stuff [11:20] I'm working on a graphical client for IA [11:20] but until that is done [11:20] I just write some custom upload scripts to free up disk space [11:20] and get stuff into IA [11:20] '4TB should be enough for everyone!' [11:20] graphical client will prob take a while [11:21] its not. 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[20:01] *** schbirid has joined #archiveteam-bs [20:03] *** Start has quit IRC (Disconnected.) [20:11] As said earlier, GNU poisoned the well on purpose because that fit the goal of the project. Same reason Creative Commons created the Share-Alike restriction. [20:12] thought of the hour: hypothetically, the wtfpl precludes use of wtfpl-licensed code in hostile work environments [20:12] wtf.pl [20:12] Of course, most discussions of copyright end up with people talking past each other or turning into "copyright has uses" vs "eradicate it completely." [20:13] blurgh at gpl vs other free licenses [20:13] i mean really [20:13] that discussion? [20:13] xmc: technically, you can just use a copy of the code without including the license. [20:14] but what if you don't want to have anything to do with it [20:17] umm, have an employee on their own free time relicense their copy into the "do what you want license with no swears" or DWYWLWNS? [20:17] *** mistym has joined #archiveteam-bs [20:18] [22:12] thought of the hour: hypothetically, the wtfpl precludes use of wtfpl-licensed code in hostile work environments [20:18] in a way, you are correct [20:18] however, the decision lies with the entity using the code [20:18] not with the entity distributing the code [20:18] huh? [20:19] if a certain company does not wish to use WTFPL-licensed code because of the language in the license [20:19] then that is a decision by that company [20:19] not by the author who licensed it under the WTFPL [20:19] thus it is not a restriction imposed by the author [20:19] i'm not talking about that [20:19] if i hate my job [20:20] and my boss wants me to use wtfpl licensed library [20:20] if i do it grudgingly, i am breaking the license terms [20:20] because i don't want to [20:20] capisce? [20:21] oh [20:21] heh [20:21] hm. [20:21] that's actually a god point, heh [20:24] counterpoint, you want to get paid so you'll do it anyway. [20:25] which means you do "want" to use the code, you just wish you didn't have too. [20:26] maybe it's more of the general inclination sense [20:27] interesting [20:27] looks like I now operate the only Bitcoin VPS list [20:27] that still exists [20:27] the Bitcoin wiki nuked theirs [20:52] *** Start-mob has joined #archiveteam-bs [20:59] *** Start-mob has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection) [21:20] *** Start-mob has joined #archiveteam-bs [21:26] *** Start-mob has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 370 seconds) [21:57] *** monod has joined #archiveteam-bs [21:58] *** monod has quit IRC (Client Quit) [22:24] *** Start has joined #archiveteam-bs [23:14] *** logchfoo starts logging #archiveteam-bs at Fri Apr 10 23:14:25 2015 [23:14] *** logchfoo has joined #archiveteam-bs [23:17] *** dashcloud has quit IRC (Read error: Operation timed out) [23:26] *** dashcloud has joined #archiveteam-bs