#archiveteam-bs 2015-04-11,Sat

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00:30 🔗 * Ravenloft starts watching 8 Bit Generation presentation at XOXO 2014 cut
00:31 🔗 * Ravenloft feel the adrenaline rush when they leave the stage for the footage
00:31 🔗 * Ravenloft cries
00:32 🔗 Ravenloft spoiler alert: the footage is removed from the YT video
00:32 🔗 Ravenloft still happy for the project comeback
00:42 🔗 Ravenloft SketchCow its a well know fact that you are a great speaker, and just TIL you are also a great interviewer
00:45 🔗 Ravenloft if I won the lottery, I would sponsor a computer talk show with you as the host
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04:35 🔗 SketchCow Who did I interview?
04:36 🔗 SketchCow Oh, Bruno
04:36 🔗 SketchCow Feh, that wasn't much of an interview.
04:36 🔗 SketchCow https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7DvvtOi-GGQ&noredirect=1
04:36 🔗 SketchCow THAT is an interview.
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08:27 🔗 joepie91 http://www.at5.nl/live
08:27 🔗 joepie91 Dutch students about to be evicted
08:35 🔗 garyrh is that this?: http://www.dutchnews.nl/news/archives/2015/04/amsterdam-sit-in-students-must-leave-by-midnight-but-say-they-will-not-go/
08:51 🔗 joepie91 garyrh: yes
08:51 🔗 joepie91 garyrh: keep an eye on https://twitter.com/joepie91 for snippets from what's going on
08:51 🔗 joepie91 trying to simultaneously translate some bits
08:51 🔗 joepie91 and pick stuff out
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12:15 🔗 Ravenloft it is indeed
12:15 🔗 Ravenloft and of course I was taking for granted all the interviews on the docs, since we dont see/hear you
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13:09 🔗 * joepie91 is currently uploading stream captures
13:09 🔗 joepie91 on that note
13:09 🔗 joepie91 if any audio/video wizards around
13:09 🔗 joepie91 I have a challenge for you... :P
13:09 🔗 joepie91 corrupt container
13:09 🔗 joepie91 managed to save the video stream as is
13:09 🔗 joepie91 and to transcode the audio stream
13:09 🔗 joepie91 but I can't for the life of me figure out how to extract the audio stream
13:09 🔗 joepie91 ffmpeg just barfs and gives up at the sight of the stream captures, mencoder doesn't let me copy out the audio
13:10 🔗 joepie91 VLC barfs also
13:25 🔗 joepie91 https://archive.org/details/at5_maagdenhuis
13:26 🔗 joepie91 any help would be welcome (oddly, it seems the IA player is perfectly capable of playing them)
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15:58 🔗 godane looks like the profile pages on the older bbc pages are redirecting now
15:59 🔗 godane news articles are not redirecting from what i can tell
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17:07 🔗 Smiley geograph.co.uk
17:07 🔗 schbirid joepie91: there is some tool for TS something, cant remember the name
17:07 🔗 schbirid might be able to help
17:08 🔗 schbirid joepie91: ProjectX
17:09 🔗 godane good thing i'm going after WBEZ worldview
17:09 🔗 godane looks like some stuff is missing at the end of 2009-06 into 2009-07
17:10 🔗 godane 2009-07 maybe very thin for full shows
17:14 🔗 schbirid joepie91: mplayer -dumpfile fixed_maagdenhuis2.aac -dumpaudio fixed_maagdenhuis2.avi
17:14 🔗 schbirid worked fine here
17:14 🔗 joepie91 schbirid: yeah, I tried that, the resulting file was not playable in VLC for me
17:15 🔗 schbirid works here
17:15 🔗 joepie91 (other AAC files play just fine)
17:15 🔗 joepie91 oh wait
17:15 🔗 joepie91 schbirid: you're dumping from the wrong file
17:15 🔗 joepie91 lol
17:15 🔗 schbirid you did not specify
17:15 🔗 schbirid you dutch you
17:15 🔗 joepie91 fixed_
17:15 🔗 joepie91 those are the transcoded versions
17:15 🔗 schbirid durr
17:15 🔗 joepie91 the FLVs are the originals
17:16 🔗 * schbirid wiggles his tiny fist
17:16 🔗 joepie91 actually I think mplayer coredumped on me
17:16 🔗 joepie91 schbirid: RTFM ;)
17:16 🔗 schbirid you mean RTFA :P
17:17 🔗 joepie91 man, this derive is taking forever
17:17 🔗 joepie91 schbirid: A?
17:17 🔗 schbirid article/annoucement i think
17:17 🔗 joepie91 (I'm also curious how IA manages to derive from the broken files when my ffmpeg doesn't)
17:17 🔗 joepie91 RTFD
17:17 🔗 joepie91 Description
17:17 🔗 joepie91 :p
17:18 🔗 godane you could also have the exact opposite problem with real media files
17:18 🔗 godane where nothing derives
17:19 🔗 joepie91 lol
17:24 🔗 schbirid joepie91: ok, that sucks. ask in #vlc maybe? i mean it can play the flv fine
17:31 🔗 phillipsj I found a few "bugs" in the terms for a credit usin I was applying for. The manager said they did not want to forward my concerns to legal because it would cost too much.
17:31 🔗 joepie91 schbirid: huh? your VLC plays the FLV?
17:32 🔗 schbirid yeah
17:32 🔗 joepie91 wat.
17:32 🔗 schbirid VLC media player 2.2.0 Weatherwax (revision 2.2.0-0-g1349ef2)
17:32 🔗 joepie91 VLC media player 2.2.0 Weatherwax (revision 2.2.0-0-g1349ef2)
17:32 🔗 joepie91 same
17:33 🔗 joepie91 schbirid: can you extract the channels and repackage them into an MP4 or MKV container or something?
17:33 🔗 schbirid if you tell me exactly how, sure. didnt see an easy option riht away and i dont really care 0)
17:33 🔗 joepie91 (it's AAC and AVC, so afaik both MP4 and MKV should support that)
17:33 🔗 phillipsj s/usin/union For example they claimed that the 4 digit PIN was their confidential property. I forget what the other one was (but have the bug report written down somewhere).
17:33 🔗 joepie91 schbirid: well, can your ffmpeg see it
17:33 🔗 joepie91 or read it, rather
17:34 🔗 schbirid ah yes, one sec
17:34 🔗 joepie91 schbirid: https://ffmpeg.org/pipermail/ffmpeg-user/2013-April/014908.html
17:35 🔗 * joepie91 is going to take a shower
17:35 🔗 phillipsj It is probably differing library versions or something. most the time, the video player is just a frond-end for something else.
17:36 🔗 phillipsj One day I found the like 2-3 of my PDF viewers were using the same library.
17:43 🔗 schbirid joepie91: https://transfer.sh/yfaN6/joepie.7z
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18:49 🔗 aaaaaaaaa http://www.networkworld.com/article/2908654/ibm-fujifilm-show-tape-storage-still-has-a-long-future.html
18:49 🔗 aaaaaaaaa Wonder if the real life application of that tech will be anywhere near the 88x improvement they claim in the lab.
18:51 🔗 joepie91 schbirid: merci
18:51 🔗 joepie91 schbirid: wait, that's only one file
18:52 🔗 joepie91 (I can play the .aac in VLC, fwiw)
18:52 🔗 wyatt8750 aaaaaaaaa: did you see http://www.extremetech.com/computing/181560-sony-develops-tech-for-185tb-tapes-3700-times-more-storage-than-a-blu-ray-disc
18:53 🔗 wyatt8750 it developed that alongside IBM
18:53 🔗 schbirid joepie91: wanted to check if they work for you first
18:53 🔗 schbirid i can do the others
18:54 🔗 schbirid do you even need the video track? didnt play for me
18:54 🔗 joepie91 schbirid: video track doesn't play, but that is Probably Okay
18:54 🔗 joepie91 I think it needs a container
18:55 🔗 joepie91 just send me the audio for now
18:55 🔗 schbirid yeah maybe
18:55 🔗 schbirid ok
18:55 🔗 schbirid IA is super slow :(
18:55 🔗 joepie91 I can extract the video from the fixed ones anyway
18:55 🔗 joepie91 since that wasn't transcoded
18:55 🔗 joepie91 only the audio was
18:55 🔗 joepie91 so I'll just have to do some remuxing magic to make it work :P
18:55 🔗 aaaaaaaaa No, I didn't. Guess this is an arms race announcement with the close timing. Queue every other tape company chiming in now.
18:55 🔗 schbirid maagdenhuis1.flv 2%[ ] 7.69M 99.1KB/s eta 35m 51s
18:55 🔗 schbirid ugh
18:56 🔗 schbirid will be ready tomorrow for you ;)
18:56 🔗 wyatt8750 hehe
18:56 🔗 wyatt8750 aaaaaaaaa: that was a year or two ago
18:57 🔗 joepie91 schbirid: want me to transfer.sh? :)
18:57 🔗 schbirid if you can, sure
18:57 🔗 joepie91 ofc I can :P
18:57 🔗 aaaaaaaaa yeah, I just noticed that a split second before you said that.
18:57 🔗 joepie91 100/100 :D
18:57 🔗 wyatt8750 schbirid: what are you trying to download?
18:57 🔗 schbirid https://archive.org/download/at5_maagdenhuis/maagdenhuis{1..4}.flv
18:57 🔗 joepie91 schbirid: which numbers do you still need?
18:57 🔗 schbirid 134
18:57 🔗 aschmitz LTO-7 is supposed to be announced before the end of the year, if I recall. Just 6.4 TB native, though.
18:57 🔗 joepie91 k
18:58 🔗 joepie91 bah, only 16mbit to transfer.sh
18:58 🔗 joepie91 they must be having a bad day
18:58 🔗 schbirid :O
18:58 🔗 schbirid curl.io then maybe
18:59 🔗 joepie91 heh, didn't know about that one
18:59 🔗 schbirid it requires visiting the site so i never use it, but decent speeds iirc
19:00 🔗 joepie91 hm, it does?
19:00 🔗 Smiley ha, cute.
19:00 🔗 Smiley don't you just give someone the url?
19:00 🔗 Smiley and they grab it?
19:00 🔗 schbirid for dl yes, but for ul you need a code
19:01 🔗 schbirid transfer.sh doesnt and was gbit in my tests
19:01 🔗 wyatt8750 [ 4%] [.0 .1 ] [766KB/s] [13:03]
19:01 🔗 Smiley o
19:01 🔗 joepie91 lol
19:01 🔗 wyatt8750 (using axel download accelerator as axel -a -n 4 -v https://archive.org/download/at5_maagdenhuis/maagdenhuis1.flv
19:01 🔗 joepie91 curl.io is a kimsufi box
19:01 🔗 wyatt8750 )
19:01 🔗 wyatt8750 at 14% now
19:01 🔗 wyatt8750 ETA 12:00
19:02 🔗 joepie91 fancy progress bar thing on the site...
19:02 🔗 joepie91 schbirid: https://transfer.sh/1gUROe/maagdenhuis1.flv
19:02 🔗 joepie91 http://curl.io/get/ychvxd26/a38bbc8ee2d24e85f9bb8e6471e2c87f6f623711
19:02 🔗 schbirid woot
19:02 🔗 joepie91 (two diff files)
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19:05 🔗 joepie91 schbirid: so, about that "you have to go to the site"
19:05 🔗 joepie91 we'll see about that... :)
19:06 🔗 schbirid easy to script
19:06 🔗 joepie91 it uses socket.io, so a little less easy
19:06 🔗 joepie91 heh
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19:17 🔗 joepie91 curl -s "http://curl.io/socket.io/?EIO=3&transport=polling&t=$(date +%s)-1&sid=$(curl -s "http://curl.io/socket.io/?EIO=3&transport=polling&t=$(date +%s)-0" | grep -oEa "\{.+" | jq -r .sid)" | grep -oEa "\[.+" | jq -r '.[1]'
19:18 🔗 joepie91 upload ID get
19:26 🔗 joepie91 sven@linux-etoq:~/archive/maagdenhuis_videos> curlio maagdenhuis4.flv
19:26 🔗 joepie91 ######################################################################## 100.0%
19:26 🔗 joepie91 http://curl.io/get/grlpigul/b0237b039e8e655a5b8c4723282aa9ae56c0e6a1
19:26 🔗 joepie91 automation++
19:26 🔗 joepie91 cc schbirid
19:29 🔗 joepie91 schbirid: https://gist.github.com/joepie91/c9bff240ae06b581a4b6
19:29 🔗 joepie91 :)
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19:49 🔗 schbirid nice
19:50 🔗 schbirid uploading
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20:24 🔗 joepie91 Well, here's another juicy layer to add to the speculation about whether or not Yahoo and Microsoft will soon end their search alliance. Yahoo has reportedly been building its own mobile search engine that it's currently testing, and that experience removes the "Powered by Bing" stamp that has been attached to Yahoo's search results since the alliance took effect.
20:41 🔗 schbirid joepie91: https://transfer.sh/OBmNQ/j.7z
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21:08 🔗 joepie91 schbirid: merci
21:11 🔗 joepie91 schbirid: those are some most unhelpful filenames :P
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21:52 🔗 joepie91 oh hey, I'm pushing 70mbps at IA
21:52 🔗 joepie91 75mbps...
21:53 🔗 joepie91 aw, only averaging 65mbps
21:53 🔗 joepie91 now let's hope I didn't fuck up
21:53 🔗 joepie91 :P
21:54 🔗 joepie91 ahhhh, these are the graphs I like to see
21:54 🔗 joepie91 http://i.imgur.com/QXEdIj9.png
22:18 🔗 joepie91 dropped to 50mbps :(
22:26 🔗 midas sorry, had to reboot my router joepie91, im using all the bandwidth again
22:26 🔗 midas ;-)
22:29 🔗 wyatt8750 I've found the Unix System V source code, but it's been HTML-ized.
22:29 🔗 wyatt8750 any idea how I can convert these back into plaintext?
22:29 🔗 wyatt8750 http://minnie.tuhs.org/cgi-bin/utree.pl?file=pdp11v/usr/src/games/bj.c
22:29 🔗 wyatt8750 (example)
22:34 🔗 SimpBrain scrape it after <pre> ?
22:35 🔗 midas wyatt8750: you can try to filter anything before the <pre> tag in the html
22:35 🔗 joepie91 lol midas
22:36 🔗 midas err after the pre tag :x
22:36 🔗 joepie91 wyatt8750: http://minnie.tuhs.org/TUHS/archive_sites.html ?
22:37 🔗 midas oh wait, they have ftp access
22:37 🔗 joepie91 midas: and rsync :P
22:37 🔗 midas yeah
22:38 🔗 joepie91 ... a very spotty rsync
22:39 🔗 wyatt8750 midas: the system v source wasnt on ftp
22:39 🔗 wyatt8750 or if it was it was labeled so I could not find it
22:39 🔗 wyatt8750 remember for a moment how hotly contested the system v source is legally
22:39 🔗 wyatt8750 (novell among others)
22:43 🔗 midas so just the pdp11 folder?
22:47 🔗 midas i'd might just grab that FTP server anyway
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