#archiveteam-bs 2015-04-18,Sat

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01:48 ๐Ÿ”— kyan ctext.org (chinese historic text library) has seriously harsh bans for wgetting :(
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02:19 ๐Ÿ”— godane1 add -e robots=off
02:19 ๐Ÿ”— godane1 to your wget grabbing code
02:22 ๐Ÿ”— kyan Aha, ok, thanks :D
02:24 ๐Ÿ”— kyan Looks like they don't like IA either :( User-agent: ia_archiver Disallow: /
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04:34 ๐Ÿ”— chfoo https://twitter.com/ChangeTip/status/589279010867150848
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05:27 ๐Ÿ”— yipdw why can't the Apple Watch Edition interoperate with Vertu Constellation phones
05:28 ๐Ÿ”— yipdw I want to get a private box at Le Mans by shouting into my wrist
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07:52 ๐Ÿ”— username1 chfoo: wow, that's obnoxious
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07:58 ๐Ÿ”— yipdw huh
07:58 ๐Ÿ”— yipdw so Long Ago and Far Away, RMS wrote about a music player that would allow you to directly tip the artist
07:58 ๐Ÿ”— yipdw he wrote that it could not yet exist due to the lack of a suitable payment system
07:58 ๐Ÿ”— yipdw ChangeTip kinda looks like it'd work?
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08:07 ๐Ÿ”— username1 afaik there are several other services that try this, one was on HN the other day
08:08 ๐Ÿ”— username1 it is always some kind of "we collect the money and then try to contact the author" approach
08:08 ๐Ÿ”— username1 which seems weird and doomed
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10:56 ๐Ÿ”— godane i'm starting to slowly upload PRI's The World podcast
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12:19 ๐Ÿ”— godane in case people want to see my slow upload of PRI's The World: https://archive.org/details/godaneinbox?and[]=subject%3A%22Public+Radio+International%22&sort=-publicdate
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14:20 ๐Ÿ”— phillipsj The worst part is where they call the 1ยตBTC unit a "bit".
14:22 ๐Ÿ”— phillipsj BTW, Bitcoin is mostly unsuitable for micropayments.
16:11 ๐Ÿ”— joepie91 .t https://vpsboard.com/topic/6779-virtkick-the-open-source-panel-goes-commercial/
16:14 ๐Ÿ”— midas They will charge 15% of their customers (Hosting Companies) Gross Revenue (Yep you read right)
16:14 ๐Ÿ”— midas All the billing will be handled by them, and their customer receive their cut on a weekly basis.
16:14 ๐Ÿ”— midas HAHAHAHAHA
16:15 ๐Ÿ”— midas 'oh no no no, WE will tell you how much you will earn'
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16:18 ๐Ÿ”— xmc sounds great, sign me up!
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17:09 ๐Ÿ”— Ctrl-S are theere any guides on using wpull? i was told i should be using that
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21:06 ๐Ÿ”— xmc folk of #archiveteam, i come to you with a request
21:06 ๐Ÿ”— xmc i am building the new tracker machine for the warrior
21:06 ๐Ÿ”— xmc it needs a hostname
21:07 ๐Ÿ”— xmc my hostname theme is "currencies of the world"
21:11 ๐Ÿ”— yipdw dogecoin
21:12 ๐Ÿ”— * xmc faceplam
21:12 ๐Ÿ”— xmc i was trying to avoid that
21:12 ๐Ÿ”— yipdw hmm ok
21:12 ๐Ÿ”— xmc but i'll do it unless someone has a better idea in the next few minutes
21:12 ๐Ÿ”— Rotab lol
21:12 ๐Ÿ”— yipdw I find the Zimbabwe dollar funny
21:12 ๐Ÿ”— yipdw but it doesn't have a particularly cool name
21:13 ๐Ÿ”— xmc yeah, unfortunately it's just "dollar"
21:13 ๐Ÿ”— Rotab vietnamese dong?
21:13 ๐Ÿ”— xmc already taken!
21:14 ๐Ÿ”— xmc ukrainian hryvnia is a good candidate, it's basically impossible to spell
21:14 ๐Ÿ”— yipdw I'm scrolling through https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:Modern_obsolete_currencies
21:15 ๐Ÿ”— yipdw whoa, Phoenix?
21:15 ๐Ÿ”— xmc hmmm https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gun_money
21:15 ๐Ÿ”— midas xmc: gulden
21:15 ๐Ÿ”— midas or florijn
21:16 ๐Ÿ”— midas dmark might be a bit confusing
21:16 ๐Ÿ”— xmc mark is kind of already taken, i have a machine named markka
21:16 ๐Ÿ”— midas zlotty
21:16 ๐Ÿ”— midas lira
21:17 ๐Ÿ”— xmc lira is taken but zlotty is not
21:17 ๐Ÿ”— xmc lira is the machine i'm typing on right now, in fact
21:17 ๐Ÿ”— midas chf is a bit long :p
21:17 ๐Ÿ”— xmc zล‚oty translates to "golden"? sold.
21:17 ๐Ÿ”— midas zlotty is the polish coin
21:18 ๐Ÿ”— xmc yeah
21:18 ๐Ÿ”— yipdw plus it has a character which most of us can
21:18 ๐Ÿ”— yipdw 't type
21:18 ๐Ÿ”— yipdw so that's +1
21:18 ๐Ÿ”— xmc done and done
21:18 ๐Ÿ”— midas lol
21:18 ๐Ÿ”— yipdw "I'd restart redis but I can't type the hostname"
21:19 ๐Ÿ”— xmc oh, i also use iso currency codes in dns
21:19 ๐Ÿ”— yipdw actually ฤ‘แป“ng would be even better for that
21:19 ๐Ÿ”— godane so i got my brothers computer setup
21:19 ๐Ÿ”— xmc so it'll be available as [xn--zot-hwa zloty pln].xrtc.net
21:20 ๐Ÿ”— yipdw gotta write an ISO currency code canonicalizer for SSH
21:20 ๐Ÿ”— midas xmc: next hostname, OSTMARK.xrtc.net
21:21 ๐Ÿ”— xmc hmmmmm
21:21 ๐Ÿ”— xmc why that one
21:21 ๐Ÿ”— midas ostmark doesnt exist anymore, it has a ring to it
21:22 ๐Ÿ”— * xmc nods
21:22 ๐Ÿ”— midas and because it's german you are allowed to scream it at any time
21:24 ๐Ÿ”— yipdw I'll wire that up to voice recognition as an ssh shortcut
21:24 ๐Ÿ”— yipdw gutteral terminal control
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21:25 ๐Ÿ”— midas inloggen am ostmark bitte!
21:26 ๐Ÿ”— midas SNELL!
21:26 ๐Ÿ”— yipdw scream-driven development
21:26 ๐Ÿ”— midas that always works right
21:27 ๐Ÿ”— xmc yep
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22:18 ๐Ÿ”— xmc the ruby RVM thingy is very nice wallpaper over a wall made out of wet shit that's damply sagging
22:19 ๐Ÿ”— yipdw yes
22:19 ๐Ÿ”— yipdw I've been using chruby because it does less, but the "ruby isn't really part of my system" thing remains
22:21 ๐Ÿ”— xmc every time i start with a new language, i have to devote the second full workweek to figuring out the bespoke method by which they fuck up load paths
22:21 ๐Ÿ”— xmc for me, it is actually a more powerful disincentive to using new systems than learning the language itself
22:22 ๐Ÿ”— yipdw that's one thing that I find attractive about Go and Rust
22:23 ๐Ÿ”— yipdw GOPATH points to your workspace, cargo does its own shit in one command, and both generate output that doesn't need load path munging
22:23 ๐Ÿ”— xmc i can only hold one non-C loader in my mind at once
22:23 ๐Ÿ”— xmc this year, that's erlang.
22:23 ๐Ÿ”— xmc hm
22:23 ๐Ÿ”— yipdw the executables are predictably huge but meh
22:24 ๐Ÿ”— xmc sets mode: +o yipdw
22:24 ๐Ÿ”— xmc have a snail hat
22:24 ๐Ÿ”— yipdw the load path munging thing is one thing that has stalled me on looking into websocketd to replace archivebot's dashboard daemon
22:24 ๐Ÿ”— xmc mmm
22:24 ๐Ÿ”— yipdw websocketd runs helper programs with an empty env
22:24 ๐Ÿ”— xmc ugghhhh
22:24 ๐Ÿ”— yipdw which is good, but for Ruby code that's all bundlerized and chrubyied it's like fuuuuck
22:25 ๐Ÿ”— yipdw what vars do I set now
22:25 ๐Ÿ”— yipdw if I had static binaries for everything it'd be like "well k"
22:25 ๐Ÿ”— xmc sounds like you'd need a wrapper shellscript just to make it mildly happy
22:25 ๐Ÿ”— yipdw yeah
22:25 ๐Ÿ”— yipdw that's approximately where I said fuckit
22:25 ๐Ÿ”— xmc sysadmin hell
22:25 ๐Ÿ”— xmc unable to convert "\x8C" from ASCII-8BIT to UTF-8 for guides/assets/images/rails_logo_remix.gif, skipping
22:25 ๐Ÿ”— xmc uh
22:25 ๐Ÿ”— xmc bro
22:26 ๐Ÿ”— xmc that's not how that works
22:26 ๐Ÿ”— yipdw ?
22:26 ๐Ÿ”— xmc a line from the msgflood that `gem install rails` is currently printing
22:27 ๐Ÿ”— yipdw hmm
22:27 ๐Ÿ”— yipdw I've never seen that before
22:27 ๐Ÿ”— xmc allegedly erlang will create a fully self-contained thingy that can run on any unix, when you tell it to build a 'release'
22:27 ๐Ÿ”— xmc i have yet to try it though
22:28 ๐Ÿ”— yipdw technically you can make self-contained thingies with JRuby by packing it all into a JAR
22:28 ๐Ÿ”— yipdw or WAR
22:28 ๐Ÿ”— yipdw that isn't all that fun tho
22:28 ๐Ÿ”— xmc ah yes the jar thingy
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22:29 ๐Ÿ”— xmc come on you fucking piece of broshit rails installer
22:29 ๐Ÿ”— yipdw you can console yourself in the knowledge that it's not going to work when it's done
22:30 ๐Ÿ”— xmc that is not what i wanted to hear
22:30 ๐Ÿ”— xmc ok it was hanging at 100% cpu so i killed it and reran it and it allegedly finished successfully right away
22:30 ๐Ÿ”— xmc in a surprise to nobody
22:30 ๐Ÿ”— yipdw that said, universal-tracker doesn't use rails so
22:31 ๐Ÿ”— yipdw :P
22:31 ๐Ÿ”— xmc then why does http://archiveteam.org/index.php?title=Dev/Tracker tell me to install rails
22:31 ๐Ÿ”— yipdw I don't know, tracker is a Sinatra app
22:31 ๐Ÿ”— * xmc screams
22:31 ๐Ÿ”— yipdw gem install bundler && cd $TRACKER_DIR && bundle install
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22:34 ๐Ÿ”— xmc i'm going to follow all the directions on this page
22:34 ๐Ÿ”— yipdw hmm yeah, rails shouldn't be needed at all
22:34 ๐Ÿ”— * yipdw edits page
22:34 ๐Ÿ”— xmc and there's nobody that can stop me
22:34 ๐Ÿ”— xmc except maybe the police
22:34 ๐Ÿ”— xmc please don't swat me
22:34 ๐Ÿ”— yipdw also Ruby 2.2.1 is latest, 2.0 is not really supported anymore
22:34 ๐Ÿ”— yipdw shit I should have looked over this page
22:34 ๐Ÿ”— yipdw sory
22:36 ๐Ÿ”— xmc rvm install 2.2.1 it is
22:36 ๐Ÿ”— yipdw oops
22:36 ๐Ÿ”— yipdw 2.2.2 just came out
22:36 ๐Ÿ”— yipdw (seriously)
22:36 ๐Ÿ”— xmc fucking hell
22:36 ๐Ÿ”— xmc ok
22:36 ๐Ÿ”— yipdw by "just" I mean "April 13 2015"
22:36 ๐Ÿ”— xmc well
22:36 ๐Ÿ”— xmc it's a good thing this coffeeshop sells beer too
22:37 ๐Ÿ”— xmc i might just get one of those
22:37 ๐Ÿ”— xmc :P
22:37 ๐Ÿ”— yipdw "why are you drinking so heavily"
22:37 ๐Ÿ”— yipdw "UNIX"
22:37 ๐Ÿ”— yipdw "oh ok"
22:37 ๐Ÿ”— xmc pretty much
22:37 ๐Ÿ”— xmc actually i don't drink and computer
22:38 ๐Ÿ”— xmc down that path is an even worsely sysadmined computer than i already have to deal with
22:46 ๐Ÿ”— xmc ah, naturally passenger-install-nginx-module ignores MAKEFLAGS, and so only uses one processor
22:46 ๐Ÿ”— xmc A+ would do again
22:48 ๐Ÿ”— xmc F-, probably will have to do again
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22:57 ๐Ÿ”— xmc YIPDW
22:57 ๐Ÿ”— xmc GET IN HERE
22:57 ๐Ÿ”— * xmc shouts
22:57 ๐Ÿ”— xmc $ gem install json -v 1.7.3
22:57 ๐Ÿ”— xmc Building native extensions. This could take a while...
22:57 ๐Ÿ”— xmc ERROR: Error installing json:
22:58 ๐Ÿ”— xmc ERROR: Failed to build gem native extension.
22:58 ๐Ÿ”— xmc 1.8.2 works but i think the bundle manifest demands 1.7.3
23:06 ๐Ÿ”— xmc ok i'm going to change the manifest to demand 1.8.2 and see if anything breaks
23:15 ๐Ÿ”— xmc christ
23:15 ๐Ÿ”— xmc fucking hell
23:15 ๐Ÿ”— xmc nodejs v_v
23:15 ๐Ÿ”— xmc what the shit is wrong with you people
23:16 ๐Ÿ”— xmc ok i'm rebuilding this box with jessie
23:16 ๐Ÿ”— xmc i think
23:28 ๐Ÿ”— xmc yep here we go wheeee
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