#archiveteam-bs 2015-05-04,Mon

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00:57 🔗 kyan How come ArchiveTeam's wiki is littered with links to various shitty one-cilck-hosters of metadata pertaining to the projects? E.g. when I try to download one of the Google Code project lists, "the file you are requesting has exceeded its maximum download bandwidth allowance". This is not an isolated incident, practically every time I browse the archiveteam wiki I run into this kind of crap. Why the hell aren't all of these just post
00:57 🔗 kyan ed on the Internet Archive?? Aargh. </rant>
00:57 🔗 espes__ lol
00:58 🔗 espes__ so a couple years ago I went through and put copies of an obscure old children's tv show pulled from some old tape recordings on youtube
00:58 🔗 espes__ and today I get real excited because it looks like that show got some dvds released of it
00:59 🔗 espes__ turns out
00:59 🔗 espes__ the sources for the dvds are the episodes I put on youtube
01:00 🔗 joepie91_ hahahaha
01:00 🔗 aaaaaaaaa I had a feeling that is what you were going to say. Did they credit you or how did you figure it out? Tracking or audio problems in the same spot?
01:01 🔗 espes__ well I'm just assuming
01:01 🔗 espes__ since out of the ~60 episodes of the series, the 9 that got released on dvd are the same 9 i put on youtube
01:02 🔗 aaaaaaaaa That does seem a little too anomalous to be a coincidence.
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01:25 🔗 kyan Are people looking at the Codehaus shutdown? http://www.codehaus.org/
01:25 🔗 kyan I don't know anything about the company or what services they offer...
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02:03 🔗 Start kyan: looking at the google search results for site:*.codehaus.org, there appears to be a large amount of subdomains
02:03 🔗 kyan thanks for archivebotting them!
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02:07 🔗 Start i've only put a small amount in so far
02:07 🔗 Start i'll have to scrape google and various other sites to get a complete list
02:07 🔗 Start which i'll then !a <
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02:15 🔗 Start they just deleted everything on http://dist.codehaus.org
02:15 🔗 Start archivebot only got 1.5 gb of it
02:16 🔗 Start oh wait
02:16 🔗 Start May 1 - temporary redirect to this page
02:16 🔗 Start May 5 onwards - HTTPS only
02:16 🔗 Start so it's basically dead until may 5
02:18 🔗 Start and then it comes back online
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03:17 🔗 godane SketchCow: this maybe close to what your boss wants: http://motherboard.vice.com/read/the-internet-of-names
03:17 🔗 godane That machinery also allows for interesting new opportunities to prevent web content from disappearing (consider the problem of link rot), and to protect the intellectual property of a piece of data, or at least to attach it to a particular creator. In NDN, a signature is built into every data packet, creating a binding for the name for the data, the data itself and then the cryptographic identity of the publisher. What
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03:56 🔗 aaaaaaaaa definitely have their heads in the cloud, but I'm not so sure they have their feet on the ground
04:05 🔗 Ctrl-S that sounds like a lot of overhead
04:29 🔗 yipdw it's not that out there
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04:30 🔗 Start http://www.reddit.com/r/technology/comments/34qca2/internet_archive_explains_why/
04:30 🔗 yipdw BitTorrent magnet links use a similar principle
04:30 🔗 yipdw I am generally against it though because one of the major pushes for content addressing isn't scalability, it's lockdown
04:31 🔗 Ctrl-S fuck lockdown
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06:32 🔗 yipdw oh cool
06:32 🔗 yipdw http://en.cppreference.com/w/cpp/experimental/memory
06:32 🔗 yipdw std::experimental::pmr::monotonic_buffer_resource especially; maybe we can stop reinventing special-purpose fast heap allocators
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14:16 🔗 closure SketchCow: ok, registered for derbycon
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14:28 🔗 SketchCow Fantastic.
14:28 🔗 SketchCow I should go to that.
14:29 🔗 closure yeah, hotels filling up it looks like
14:30 🔗 SketchCow When is that. September, right?
14:30 🔗 closure Sep 23-27
14:41 🔗 SketchCow Will dom my best. I do love going there.
14:41 🔗 SketchCow Financial constraints are a bit much
14:41 🔗 SketchCow But I should be able to come up with a speech
14:44 🔗 closure the nearby econolodge is $90/night.. Since I can drive I'm doing this one on the cheap
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16:52 🔗 xmc elocodge
16:52 🔗 xmc *elonocodge
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17:12 🔗 xmc google hunger games?
17:13 🔗 yipdw yes
17:13 🔗 yipdw it's the logical conclusion of meritocracy
17:13 🔗 SketchCow Yes, econolodge will definitely be where I stay
17:13 🔗 xmc a show put on for the entertainment of the meritocrats
17:13 🔗 SketchCow The con hotel is filled and expensive
17:15 🔗 yipdw Google Royale
17:24 🔗 godane so i got buck sexton show up to date
17:24 🔗 godane i was 4 months behind on that one
17:27 🔗 godane btw i'm close to 390k items
17:27 🔗 xmc oh god carly fiorina is running for president
17:29 🔗 Jonimus It could be worse, not much worse but I mean Trump could run or something.
17:29 🔗 xmc maybe fiorina will lay off the military
17:31 🔗 ersi Maybe they should enlist some Swedish politicians
17:32 🔗 ersi I think I meant recruit, not enlist
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20:57 🔗 godane so i found out why i can't find the first 32 EngadgetHD podcasts
20:57 🔗 godane turns out it was HDBeat before it become EngadgetHD
20:58 🔗 godane there are only 6 episodes of those in the wayback
20:59 🔗 godane looks like hdbeat.com got turned into engadgethd.com in october 2006
21:02 🔗 godane looks we can save a old website called thewirelessreport.com
21:02 🔗 godane it closed in jan 31 2007
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21:16 🔗 aaaaaaaaa I'm reading reviews of VPS and stumbled on this gem: "As a result of VPS hosting's hybrid nature, the service charge isn't quite as low as shared hosts' fees and not nearly as high as dedicated hosts' fees. You can expect to pay between $20 per month and $100 per month, depending on the VPS configuration."
21:17 🔗 joepie91_ aaaaaaaaa: lol
21:17 🔗 joepie91_ aaaaaaaaa: guessing: it contained affiliate links to large hosts?
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21:19 🔗 aaaaaaaaa you bet
21:20 🔗 aaaaaaaaa top 10 Arvixe Dreamhost HostGator InMotion Hosting GoDaddy 1&1 Bluehost iPage Media Temple SiteGround
21:21 🔗 joepie91_ ding ding ding
21:21 🔗 joepie91_ typical referal squeeze page
21:21 🔗 joepie91_ can't stand them
21:23 🔗 aaaaaaaaa A selling feature is "unlimited email." I'd hope so, it's your own damn server.
21:27 🔗 RedType some VPS providers have TOS clauses against "unlimited email"
21:27 🔗 RedType it's for good reason
21:29 🔗 aaaaaaaaa an attempt to prevent spam?
21:29 🔗 RedType yeah
21:29 🔗 ersi meh, as long as they allow it in some quantity
21:30 🔗 RedType okay so you know how vps providers oversell like crazy
21:30 🔗 RedType they wouldnt care much about spam if it didnt eat cpu/network
21:30 🔗 ersi my ISP blocks port 25 completely so I can't send mail over regular smtp/25 or have a mail server at home
21:32 🔗 aaaaaaaaa mine used to, but they stopped that. Given their general competence, I wouldn't be surprised if someone forgot to load the firewall rules somewhere.
21:38 🔗 joepie91_ RedType: errrr. SOME vps providers oversell like crazy.
21:39 🔗 joepie91_ and email limitations are generally to reduce issues with blacklists
21:39 🔗 joepie91_ cc aaaaaaaaa
21:39 🔗 * ersi carbon copies joepie91_
21:40 🔗 joepie91_ hi
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21:40 🔗 joepie91c hi
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23:05 🔗 godane so lookes like HDBeat can be downloaded
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