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[09:03] *** username1 is now known as schbirid [09:04] i used wpull to grab some sites with --header="Accept-Encoding: gzip" writing directly into a warc.gz [09:04] now when i extract that with warcat i get lots of .html files which are actually gzipped [09:05] is there a way to tell warcat to extract gz when extracting? [09:08] warcat | gzip -d ? :) [09:09] is that guessing? i dont see how that could work :P [09:10] i used "python3 -m warcat extract file.warc.gz" which gave mea nice directory structure [09:10] that's totally guessing [09:11] I would expect something named cat to act like similarily to cat :) [09:21] :) [09:27] lol fuck mozilla https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1155515 [09:28] uh? [09:30] https://blog.mozilla.org/futurereleases/2015/05/13/get-a-firefox-account-and-test-new-features-in-firefox-beta/ they got $$$ in their Pocket [09:32] so? [09:32] Have you donated to Mozilla any time in the past? [09:33] so? [09:33] there is ethics and there is no ethics [09:34] sure because we're all ADD type programmer IT people and the world is black and white/binary [09:34] *slap* [09:35] good, you should slap yourself occationally [09:35] :) [09:36] i'll remind you when firefox comes with the ask toolbar and a free virus scan [09:36] 04HY07PE08RB03OL02E0606 [09:37] Heh, sure - do that. [09:37] http://cdn.c.photoshelter.com/img-get2/I0000lajPWaBC.X0/fit=1000x750/Skeleton-hand-about-to-click-on-the-mouse-button.jpg [09:48] *** godane has joined #archiveteam-bs [10:21] *** rolf has joined #archiveteam-bs [10:30] *** godane has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 370 seconds) [10:40] *** BlueMaxim has quit IRC (Quit: Leaving) [10:52] *** godane has joined #archiveteam-bs [11:22] *** primus104 has quit IRC (Leaving.) 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[16:44] *** mistym has joined #archiveteam-bs [16:44] but but but.. no ethicss!!!!! [16:44] its really about ethics in web browsing [16:45] *** Start has quit IRC (Disconnected.) [16:45] Mozilla Sealion [16:46] ethics in web browsing will be a thing when you start sharing bit.ly links to lemonparty or something [16:46] maybe Hello will expand URL shorteners [16:47] actually [16:48] I wonder if that sharing protocol is documented and open [16:48] ArchiveBot as a share recipient => your current tabs saved [16:48] Wayback as a share recipient => ditto [16:48] this is slightly easier than web.archive.org/save and can also be done asynchronously [16:53] *** xtr-201 has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 370 seconds) [16:57] *** Ravenloft has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 252 seconds) [17:01] *** ohhdemgir has joined #archiveteam-bs [17:16] man, wtf has Mozilla been smoking lately [17:22] yeah, supporting the windows only Adobe DRM thing seems really really dumb [17:22] and there have been quite a few user hostile UI changes recently as well. [17:23] *** primus104 has joined #archiveteam-bs [17:23] *** Ravenloft has joined #archiveteam-bs [17:24] eh, I'm going to give them the benefit of the doubt for those (not for the ad tiles thing, though) [17:24] my observations have been that the "user-hostile" changes are not that big of a deal for many people who use Firefox [17:25] *** sankin has joined #archiveteam-bs [17:25] and at this point I don't even really care [17:25] i don't interact with most of the browser beyond the viewport anyway [17:26] except to tell RequestPolicy to unblock something [17:27] the EME thing sucks but I think it is good that the Firefox UI frames it as a question of whether you, the user, want to give up rights [17:27] so that's one step [17:27] Chrome, Safari etc don't even do that [17:29] *** xtr-201 has joined #archiveteam-bs [17:29] *** wyatt8740 has joined #archiveteam-bs [17:32] [19:24] my observations have been that the "user-hostile" changes are not that big of a deal for many people who use Firefox [17:32] yep I wrote that [17:32] the moment "big of a deal for many people" becomes a relevant data point, you've already lost [17:32] because it means you've lost the principles [17:32] I mean that they have actually been positive [17:33] having trouble seeing the positive results of Mozilla's recent decisions [17:33] many people do :) [17:34] however, here's one example [17:34] I know a lot of people hate Australis for what it removed from configuration, and how it broke a ton of addons [17:34] yipdw: many people also completely fail to explain said "positive results", so let's not use that as a metric, shall we? [17:34] but it is quite a speedup [17:34] and improved responsiveness is a plus [17:34] joepie91_: ok sure [17:35] yipdw: right. that is a technical decision, and not within my range of complaints [17:35] ref https://vpsboard.com/topic/7009-mozilla-bundles-proprietary-extension-with-firefox/ [17:35] it's also a significant UX improvement [17:35] ok, that bundling sucks [17:35] I'm not going to defend that [17:37] yipdw: right, but that's my point - they've become more and more disconnected from their principles and their userbase as of late [17:37] Mozilla could probably use a straightening-out of their public image, yes [17:37] the "followup FAQ" to the TLS criticism was half-assed at best [17:38] they didn't seem to really read and take into account the criticism [17:38] they're pretty much at the point where Google is now [17:38] "this has been decided, and is what will happen, deal with it" [17:39] it's not just public image, it's the entire way things are done :| [17:39] I'm including their public plan in that too, sorry [17:39] it's that they're a non-profit on paper (right?) because otherwise I'd think it were a corp who just hadn't quite figured out their business model yet [17:39] going off their behaviour alone [17:39] right now their behavior makes it hard to figure out just who is in control there [17:43] definitely not brandon eich [17:44] joepie91_: do you have a link to that followup FAQ [17:45] oh wait, found it [17:46] yeah, that FAQ doesn't address the question "why should I need institutional approval to run a first-class website" [17:46] that's sad [17:46] yipdw: it basically avoids half the points made and repeats the same answers that eg. I already contradicted in my blogpost (which was posted before their FAQ) [17:46] it's a corporate non-response as far as I'm concerned [17:47] "it's all okay, hush now" [17:48] fixing the self-signed certificate warning would be a good start to lessening the institutional problem, I think [17:48] yep [17:48] that said how the fuck do you do that [17:48] the suggestion to treat self-signed as unencrypted from a UX perspective is a good one [17:49] well, the FAQ does address self-signed certs...a little [17:50] " if you have ideas for how to improve the user experience here, please let us know" [17:50] heh [17:50] I guess that means they're in the same "we have no idea what to do" boat [17:50] which is fair [17:56] I'm gonna bring back sneakernet, but with TLS certificate fingerprints printed on tokens passed between people who know each other [17:57] it is utterly impractical but it does allow for the cyberpunk future we deserve [17:57] yipdw: there have been a few good discussions on hackernews and elsewhere [17:57] so if they want feedback.. well, they can join the discussion there [17:57] about the cyberpunk future we deserve? [17:57] oh TLS self-signed certs [17:57] you got my hopes up :( [17:58] yeah, TLS certs [17:58] :P [17:59] yipdw: regarding requestpolicy https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1077185 [18:00] oh great [18:00] this is why I feel bad about not directly funding 99% of the OSS I use [18:01] yep, disabled it even though it is incompatible with a feature that isn't enabled by default [18:02] eh, who knows if that would have made a difference in this case [18:03] it may not have but being able to make money from a project makes a big difference in motivation [18:03] https://twitter.com/konklone/status/598696478018666496 [18:03] oh nice [18:08] *** rejon has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 258 seconds) [18:10] [18:10] oh yes of course [18:10] why use internal domains? [18:10] or hosts, rather [18:10] let's use a not-publicly-routable host on a public domain instead! [18:11] is .wifi available? [18:11] we can buy one [18:11] we could use it ssid registry for $$$ [18:11] *as [18:28] hmm, don't see it on the list. I was almost certain that donuts would have scooped that one up. [18:42] *** Start has joined #archiveteam-bs [18:51] *** Start has quit IRC (Disconnected.) [18:54] *** Start has joined #archiveteam-bs [18:54] *** Ravenloft has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 265 seconds) [18:57] *** Ravenloft has joined #archiveteam-bs [19:07] *** Ravenloft has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) [19:08] *** Ravenloft has joined #archiveteam-bs [19:18] SketchCow: i see the crap i uploaded to your ftp are now on archive.org [19:19] Yes, I am finally banging through as much of the to-do as I can. [19:21] so i got wikipedia for schools [19:21] i'm have been working on make a usb linux with some of byzantium features [19:22] i couldn't figure out how my fake-webiste script was not working with the byzantium mesh [19:25] *** Start has quit IRC (Disconnected.) [19:26] turns out that the only ip i could use was the client ip of wlan1:1 [19:26] i think the only reason i was having problems was cause of dnsmasq not be restarted [19:41] *** mistym has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection) [19:46] *** aaaaaaaaa has quit IRC (Read error: Connection reset by peer) [19:54] *** SN4T14__ has joined #archiveteam-bs [19:58] *** aaaaaaaaa has joined #archiveteam-bs [19:59] *** mistym has joined #archiveteam-bs [20:00] *** SN4T14_ has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 369 seconds) [20:22] i'm starting to upload the GBA Scene releases [20:22] i'm uploading them to FOS [20:27] *** godane has quit IRC (Quit: Leaving.) [20:27] *** godane has joined #archiveteam-bs [20:28] *** Start has joined #archiveteam-bs [20:30] *** mistym has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection) [20:32] I saw. [20:45] *** mistym has joined #archiveteam-bs [20:45] i was right about the before 2005 rule being broking with gba scene releases [20:46] i was reading the nfo files and some was released in late 2006 [20:46] godane: before 2005 rule? [20:46] yes [20:46] the site is from the people that made underground gamer [20:49] btw there was alot of 2in1 packs released after 2005 [20:53] ug was a good site [20:53] godane: mind the rules of that site... [20:54] i saved there old forums and images in 2012-09 [20:56] *** SimpBrain has quit IRC (Read error: Connection reset by peer) [20:58] *** sankin has quit IRC (Leaving.) [20:59] godane: what is the "before 2005 rule"? [21:00] oh [21:00] they try to only have games released before 2005-01-01 [21:01] i think this only apply to software/games [21:12] godane: huh, why? [21:15] they try to be retro [21:15] also they try to keep to games of console that are not full sale [21:15] *for sale [21:16] right. [21:17] seems arbitrary :) [21:18] the original owners of underground gamer ran bit-gamer [21:18] from what i could tell [21:19] *** Start has quit IRC (Disconnected.) [21:29] *** xtr-107 has joined #archiveteam-bs [21:35] *** xtr-201 has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 370 seconds) [21:38] *** Ravenloft has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 265 seconds) [21:41] * SketchCow is uploading 4,432 video sermons because that was needed. [22:05] *** Start has joined #archiveteam-bs [22:14] SketchCow: its official [22:14] these roms do have the scene logos at the front [22:16] *** Start has quit IRC (Disconnected.) [22:19] *** kyan has joined #archiveteam-bs [23:10] *** BlueMaxim has joined #archiveteam-bs [23:54] * ersi plasters a logo ontop of godane [23:55] *** schbirid2 has joined #archiveteam-bs [23:56] *** schbirid has quit IRC (Read error: Operation timed out)