#archiveteam-bs 2015-07-14,Tue

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01:18 🔗 Ravenloft But I have a newsletter about an obscure word processing program. I've got six or seven issues of this handmade newsletter. That's the stuff I want to scan because I'm afraid nobody will, because it's too weird and boring and obscure.
01:18 🔗 Ravenloft link?
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01:30 🔗 balrog Ravenloft: that's you or someone else?
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02:11 🔗 dashcloud hell yes upload that
02:12 🔗 dashcloud there is literally no better candidate for a thing that should be on the Internet Archive
02:13 🔗 joepie91 I've been scouring the local giveaway cabinet for unusual magazines
02:13 🔗 joepie91 got a few years worth of some local landscape magazine, like about nature around here
02:13 🔗 dashcloud if you've got samples for it, might as well upload them- there's groups that work on implementing viewers for those formats
02:14 🔗 joepie91 dashcloud: re: me?
02:14 🔗 joepie91 or?
02:15 🔗 joepie91 ahhh, some of the newer issues are online as PDFs: https://www.google.nl/webhp?sourceid=chrome-instant&ion=1&espv=2&ie=UTF-8#q=site:www.zuidhollandslandschap.nl+inurl:tijdschrift
02:18 🔗 SketchCow Yeah, why is there a question here
02:23 🔗 joepie91 ha
02:23 🔗 joepie91 ha ha ha
02:23 🔗 dashcloud my answer was directed to Ravenloft, but if you've got stuff joepie91, you might as well upload them as well
02:23 🔗 joepie91 ha!
02:23 🔗 joepie91 dashcloud: SketchCow: balrog: it's from here: http://thewebahead.net/97
02:23 🔗 joepie91 in fact, SketchCow, it's a quote from you
02:23 🔗 joepie91 lol
02:24 🔗 joepie91 dashcloud: yeah, will be doing scannings soon, have them on my shelf for now
02:24 🔗 joepie91 dashcloud: need to get my scanning setup in order and clear out my HDD first
02:24 🔗 joepie91 but I'm basically just collecting relatively obscure or historian-relevant stuff
02:25 🔗 joepie91 will scan it, then put the magazines back
02:25 🔗 joepie91 because a) no perma storage space, and b) so other people can reuse them again :P
02:48 🔗 joepie91 this is the cancer that is killing the web: http://lowendtalk.com/discussion/57736/expired-domains-with-real-pagerank-are-they-still-good
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04:14 🔗 Ravenloft thats from a SketchCow interview
04:14 🔗 Ravenloft as joepie91 said
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12:46 🔗 godane so the dailymail archives is going to get very big
12:47 🔗 godane 2007 archives was just 3.5gb
12:47 🔗 godane 2008 is 11gb
12:47 🔗 godane 2009 is 15.7gb
12:47 🔗 godane 2010 is 20gb
12:48 🔗 godane the first half of 2011 is over 15gb and thats not even full done yet
13:17 🔗 Smiley nice
13:31 🔗 joepie91 will also ask here in case it gets lost in the noise
13:31 🔗 joepie91 [15:22] <joepie91> ivan`: yipdw: chfoo: is there currently a way to have archivebot also connect to another channel, and take commands from there? (people in another channel are requesting an archivebot)
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13:55 🔗 joepie91 SketchCow: this doesn't look particularly healthy to me: https://archive.org/catalog.php?history=1&justme=1 (for my user, that is - admin@cryto.net)... lots of tasks waiting for admin, a bunch of them on a readonle server...
13:55 🔗 joepie91 readonly*
13:55 🔗 joepie91 back to tasks from well over a year ago
13:55 🔗 joepie91 all pdfy, it seems
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15:43 🔗 DFJustin better to ask the other people to come to #archivebot imo, that way everyone can keep an eye on it
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16:39 🔗 joepie91 DFJustin: I've found this a not very viable proposition for people who aren't really dedicated to archiving stuff
16:39 🔗 joepie91 :p
16:43 🔗 arkiver Maybe you can write a script to add archival requests from the other channels to #archivebot?
16:47 🔗 joepie91 arkiver: that was going to be my backup option
16:47 🔗 joepie91 :)
16:48 🔗 arkiver I see
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17:47 🔗 DFJustin as ever I'm confused by the concept of joining an IRC channel being a hardship but that's people for you I guess
17:54 🔗 Sanqui https://www.daysoftheyear.com/days/cow-appreciation-day/
17:54 🔗 Sanqui cc SketchCow
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19:05 🔗 bzc6p joepie91: people who want to issue archivebot commands here must have some literacy problems, as they don't spell the corresponding channel name correctly. If telling them – again – which is the right channel doesn't help, then we wave and say goodbye to them, maybe also issue the command in the right channel ourselves. I don't see the point in mashing up things and letting archivebot system messages SPAM other channels just because illiteral/ign
19:05 🔗 bzc6p orant/stupid people.
19:05 🔗 * bzc6p is in a criticistic mood
19:06 🔗 bzc6p We have a saying that not the dog should take the man for a walk, but the other way around.
19:08 🔗 bzc6p sorry, it in fact says that not the tail should wag the dog but the other way around.
19:11 🔗 joepie91 bzc6p: I wasn't talking about /this/ channel
19:11 🔗 joepie91 channel on a different network
19:18 🔗 bzc6p nnnnno. At least not here. Doesn't matter, though.
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19:36 🔗 szalwia http://www.robertmanduca.com/projects/jobs.html this is very cool
19:36 🔗 szalwia we should find a way to archive it
19:38 🔗 schbirid trivial but give him some days to weather off the traffic
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21:13 🔗 arkiver Pentaquarks!
21:15 🔗 aaaaaaaaa helpful context: http://press.web.cern.ch/press-releases/2015/07/cerns-lhcb-experiment-reports-observation-exotic-pentaquark-particles
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21:21 🔗 arkiver aaaaaaaaa: read it all :)
21:21 🔗 arkiver thanks!
21:21 🔗 arkiver Going to take a look at the arxiv later, this is very exciting!
21:27 🔗 HCross my up shouldnt be this slow esp as my provider just stuck a 100gb link to Cogent in (who IA use)
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22:02 🔗 godane I'M BACKKK
22:02 🔗 godane internet/wifi was down
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22:34 🔗 szalwia what makes a website more suitable for archival as a warrior project, rather than just throwing archivebot at it?
22:36 🔗 xmc size, uniformity of content
22:36 🔗 xmc if there are a hundred million user profiles, that's a warrior project
22:36 🔗 xmc you can hand out user profiles as chunks to each warrior
22:36 🔗 xmc if it's more shaped like a blog, it's an archivebot project
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22:45 🔗 joepie91 also rate limiting
22:45 🔗 joepie91 strict rate limiting == warrior project
22:47 🔗 szalwia i see
22:47 🔗 xmc yeah
22:47 🔗 szalwia i've been wondering what's needed to get this project moving http://www.archiveteam.org/index.php?title=Ownlog
22:48 🔗 szalwia 45,000 blogs
22:48 🔗 szalwia its not really that huge
22:51 🔗 yipdw one of these days the archivebot and warrior will merge into bot warriors
22:51 🔗 yipdw but we'll all be dead then
22:52 🔗 yipdw either from the length of time or the robot warriors killing all of us
22:52 🔗 joepie91 yipdw: nah, it's probably just WARCs taking up all the IRC space and choking us to death
22:53 🔗 yipdw WARC-Death-Method: exhaustion
22:53 🔗 xmc hmmmm
22:53 🔗 xmc archivebot warrior project
22:53 🔗 xmc hmmmm
22:53 🔗 yipdw it has been proposed before and it's not that far off
22:53 🔗 xmc yea
22:54 🔗 yipdw but like making real Terminator there's a few stumbling details
22:54 🔗 yipdw you may have to find the equivalent of Miles Dyson
22:54 🔗 xmc can't be that hard
22:54 🔗 yipdw this means you're Sarah Connor
22:54 🔗 yipdw which tbh is a pretty fucking awesome person to be
22:55 🔗 xmc sounds good to me
22:55 🔗 godane i'm grabbing independent.co.uk 1992 sitemap
23:03 🔗 szalwia does AT/IA have any policy regarding .onion grabs?
23:03 🔗 xmc only that you put it in a warc :)
23:22 🔗 kyan Trying to write a music discography web app in PHP. I don't even know where to start.
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23:27 🔗 kyan Haha yep
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