#archiveteam-bs 2015-08-28,Fri

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02:09 🔗 vitzli SketchCow, #1 is not well phrased, I guess?
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02:11 🔗 vitzli I don't know, starting with "May I suggest" sounds way worse
02:12 🔗 SketchCow What's your native language.
02:12 🔗 vitzli russian
02:16 🔗 SketchCow Russians reverse phrases in descrptions and can easily stumble into what looks like nitpicking.
02:16 🔗 SketchCow Italian too, but less
02:24 🔗 aaaaaaaaa haven't watched this myself yet, but thought it might be of interest: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JsUM-ZcBFE0
02:25 🔗 aaaaaaaaa EEVblog #788 - Apple IIC Teardown
02:29 🔗 MrRadar I love that guy
02:30 🔗 aaaaaaaaa His enthusiasm can be quite infectious
02:37 🔗 xmc russians also use the letter v in their names a lot
02:37 🔗 xmc and z
02:43 🔗 Ravenloft https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=469cPIB3paA
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02:52 🔗 vitzli SketchCow, what kind of software do you use for deskewing?
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02:53 🔗 SketchCow Scantailor
02:54 🔗 anomie Do you believe it's feasible to convert a warc file to zim format? http://www.openzim.org/wiki/ZIM_file_format
02:56 🔗 pikhq_ Though I don't see why you *would*, it certainly looks doable. The main thing is, you'd lose a lot of information from the WARC. :)
02:57 🔗 pikhq_ (namely -- there doesn't look to be anything here that couldn't be derived automatically from the contents of the WARC)
02:58 🔗 anomie All right.
02:59 🔗 anomie I'm not sure why I would yet either, I was just curious.
02:59 🔗 wp494 winr4r: yup, apollo 13 recordings, and as a matter of fact anything made while a government employee is doing official duties, automatically is made public domain
03:00 🔗 wp494 such as satellite/radar images from NOAA, presidential mugshots from the EO of the POTUS, etc
03:01 🔗 anomie wp494: I don't think that always applies. "National Security" concerns can trump that.
03:02 🔗 wp494 yeah true
03:02 🔗 wp494 so "a lot of stuff" then
03:03 🔗 anomie Excuse my pedantry. <3
03:03 🔗 pikhq_ anomie: It does always apply.
03:03 🔗 pikhq_ Classified works are still "public domain", it's just that that doesn't mean "just anyone can read it" that just means "there's no copyright claim to it".
03:04 🔗 pikhq_ (though -- reading classified stuff is not illegal, except for people with security clearance)
03:04 🔗 anomie pikhq_: I guess that's true. It feels weird referring to things not accessible to the public as being owned by the public though.
03:04 🔗 pikhq_ If I broke into the NSA and stole everything and then gave it out to y'all, you'd be perfectly fine legally.
03:04 🔗 pikhq_ I'd have a bunch of issues, mind.
03:08 🔗 SketchCow Oooo, the law, my favorite
03:09 🔗 * SketchCow switches to a window with nothing but a blinking white dot
03:09 🔗 pikhq_ :)
03:10 🔗 anomie "A pirate does what he wants 'cause a pirate is free. You are a pirate!"
03:18 🔗 anomie Where should I look for cheap in-house data storage?
03:18 🔗 SketchCow best Buy
03:20 🔗 anomie Their stuff is so overpriced though!
03:20 🔗 SketchCow newegg
03:21 🔗 MrRadar Are you just looking for hard drives or something more specific?
03:21 🔗 anomie But what stuff has the cheapest cost per GB?
03:22 🔗 MrRadar External HDs, actually
03:22 🔗 anomie MrRadar: I'm just looking for the cheapest storage capacity. It doesn't have to be fast.
03:22 🔗 vitzli 3 or 4 TB HDDs were sweet spot on $/TB
03:24 🔗 MrRadar 5TB drives are also edging down
03:24 🔗 MrRadar The cheapest 4TB external on Newegg is $110 while the cheapest 5 TB is $125
03:25 🔗 MrRadar I've seen similar prices at my local Microcenter
03:25 🔗 anomie What about magnetic tape? Is that best if I want, say, 50+TB?
03:25 🔗 MrRadar Taps drives are pretty expensive
03:25 🔗 SketchCow https://archive.org/details/CompactPotentiometers7231072212InstructionManual723102J
03:26 🔗 MrRadar Looking on Newegg most tape drives are in the 4 figure price range
03:26 🔗 anomie MrRadar: Yeah, but the tapes themselves are pretty cheap. I'll have to do some math to see at which point it's cost-effective.
03:30 🔗 vitzli I don't remember where I read this, but new-ish LTO 5 and 6 tapes have smaller lifetime then 4s, or was it 4,5/6?
03:31 🔗 godane SketchCow: all 1991 episodes of mbc newsdesk is uploaded
03:34 🔗 SketchCow Thank you, godane
03:35 🔗 godane the mbc newsdesk is going to be one of those slow series that i will be uploading for months
03:36 🔗 godane nothing like grabbing stuff in real time
03:38 🔗 vitzli is uploading previous versions of open-source software a good idea? stuff like texlive?
03:41 🔗 anomie vitzli: I wouldn't worry about TeX in particular, unless there's old TeX documents that only old TeX versions can compile.
03:41 🔗 anomie I doubth that's the case though.
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07:42 🔗 godane i'm going after 'this is only a test' podcast
07:43 🔗 godane btw i'm also starting to upload 1992 episodes of MBC Newsdesk
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11:43 🔗 godane i'm starting to upload 'this is only a test' podcast
11:43 🔗 godane its the audio edition
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12:21 🔗 Smiley from tested.com? Nice.
12:22 🔗 Smiley you going for the adam savage spin offs they do too?
12:23 🔗 godane at some point
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12:23 🔗 godane looks like IA is having problems with me uploading these mp3s
12:24 🔗 godane first 1 uploaded fine
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12:24 🔗 godane whats even funnyer about this is that my mbc newsdesk uploads are doing fine
12:46 🔗 vitzli oh, I archived 'Still Untitled' for personal use >.>
12:46 🔗 vitzli about 20-25 GBs
12:47 🔗 vitzli up to Jan 2015, I think, with youtube-dl
12:47 🔗 vitzli godane, how are you going to archive them? youtube-dl them in max quality? 720p/1080p?
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13:12 🔗 godane vitzil: i only grabbed mp3s so far
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18:34 🔗 schbirid i. love. http://scrap.oldbookillustrations.com
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20:53 🔗 ersi Well then, that was fun
20:53 🔗 ersi Accidentally deleted Desktop/ after having moving a bunch of stuff there
20:54 🔗 ersi And no backup, because ya'know.. the shoemaker's children go barefoot
20:55 🔗 aaaaaaaaa could always try undeleting
20:57 🔗 xmc ooops
20:58 🔗 ersi aaaaaaaaa: ext4 and hardware is an SSD, and this was pretty recently
20:58 🔗 ersi any practical tips on that scenario?
20:58 🔗 ersi I was cleaning up my /home/.. and well, I did clean it up. Heh. :D
21:00 🔗 aaaaaaaaa well, first thing I would do is not write any more to the disk and use another computer to do it
21:00 🔗 aaaaaaaaa I've had good success with photorec, but I know a few who have done it with debugfs
21:02 🔗 aaaaaaaaa also, the arch wiki has https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/File_recovery
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21:06 🔗 aaaaaaaaa oh wait, ssd. I believe if you use TRIM, then the blocks get erased immediately for eventual rewrite
21:06 🔗 MrRadar Yeah, with TRIM you're pretty screwed
21:07 🔗 MrRadar The SSD would erase the entry from its block map
21:07 🔗 MrRadar And there's not really any way to recreate it
21:11 🔗 ersi I'm using Ubuntu 12.04. How do I determine if this badboy is issuing TRIM's?
21:12 🔗 MrRadar http://howto.unixdev.net/Test_LVM_Trim_Ext4.html
21:13 🔗 MrRadar Basically run hdparm -I on the device
21:13 🔗 MrRadar And check for TRIM in the output
21:14 🔗 MrRadar Also check if the volume is mounted with the discard option (run mount without any parameters
21:14 🔗 MrRadar and check if discard is listed for the volume)
21:16 🔗 ersi The volume was not mounted with discard
21:16 🔗 MrRadar You may be in luck then!
21:17 🔗 MrRadar Though you should work fast since you're racing against the SSD's garbage collector
21:17 🔗 ersi I shut the unit off. Maybe that was dumb :)
21:17 🔗 MrRadar Which will eventually do an internal TRIM (if it understands ext4)
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21:33 🔗 ersi extundelete --restore-directory seems to be what I want
21:33 🔗 ersi Just need to put together a USB stick
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