#archiveteam-bs 2015-09-04,Fri

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01:41 🔗 JesseW What's the URL for IA's zipfile viewer? (or tar file viewer, I can't remember which)
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01:50 🔗 SketchCow You take an item and the file, as a zip, and add a /
01:50 🔗 SketchCow http://archive.org/download/itemname/item.zip/
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02:12 🔗 JesseW ah, thanks!
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05:43 🔗 JesseW lol :: https://archive.org/legal/faq.php -> "The Wayback Machine does not contain copies of every page that ever existed on the Internet."
05:43 🔗 JesseW Ah, the dry humor of a FAQ page for lawyers.
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05:48 🔗 xmc "no. no. no. that's stupid. no. go away. no. no."
05:57 🔗 JesseW well, that *whole* page is devoted to that... "no, you don't need an affidavit. No, there isn't anything particularly useful that we *can* swear to. OK, if you want us to swear that we pressed the "print screen" button, instead of you, fine, we'll do it for a hundred bucks. Wait, you're willing to *pay* us that much? OK, fine, make it $150, plus $20 per URL. Now will you go away? No? Fine."
05:58 🔗 JesseW Hm, interesting, may want to read later: http://papers.ssrn.com/sol3/papers.cfm?abstract_id=1459805
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08:01 🔗 GLaDOS something disturbs me about zer0c00l
08:01 🔗 GLaDOS tell me if you can spot it
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08:06 🔗 schbirid lol
08:06 🔗 schbirid m355 w17h 7h3 b357!
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08:33 🔗 Smiley lol
08:46 🔗 Rotab haah
08:50 🔗 vitzli corp.yahoo.com - ?
08:51 🔗 GLaDOS they're invading
08:54 🔗 vitzli maybe he is just a refugee
08:59 🔗 GLaDOS ..possibly
08:59 🔗 vitzli I think tumblr acquisition and flickr redesign was made with current CEO
09:00 🔗 vitzli oh, and that funny rant about their developers not using yahoo web mail
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11:08 🔗 godane SketchCow: some one has a better copy of this: https://archive.org/details/whatsthepresidencyallabout
11:09 🔗 godane its the original airing of it on CBS
11:09 🔗 godane http://i.imgur.com/OD8toHr.jpg
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13:01 🔗 SketchCow So, you all might be not-surprised to hear that a certain amount of professional archivists are flipping out of their goddamn minds about ArchiveCorps
13:02 🔗 SketchCow And to some small amount I've been watching them, flipping out in their little 300-follower holes, on the twitters
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13:03 🔗 SketchCow Naturally, I come under for a lot of drubbing for this, that, the other thing. Being a dude is considered a bad move on my part, as is my approach on... everything
13:03 🔗 SketchCow But as I dig down deeper (because why the fuck not) what I am discovering is that the situation is EXACTLY, and I mean EXACTLY the same as the open-source explosion of the late 1990s.
13:04 🔗 SketchCow Entrenched "but I followed all the rules" people suddenly feeling like someone needed a few moments with a piece of hardware and some basic coding knowledge to outstrip all their life accomplishments
13:05 🔗 SketchCow Blistering anger when an organization (like the Society of American Archivists) who have endorsed this project, who they feel are "betraying" their aforementioned rules-following
13:05 🔗 SketchCow Some tiny part of me wants these projects to be accepted and loved universally, but that's not happening, of course. Never does.
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13:11 🔗 SketchCow Anyway, interesting parallel.
13:13 🔗 vitzli what rules archivecorps existence breaks?
13:17 🔗 dan- Seen a little bit of the same stuff with the recent Arduino/Raspberry Pi/etc things as well (dunno if that'd be considered part of the same movement or not)
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13:18 🔗 vitzli and photography, all the same
13:19 🔗 vitzli digital/film photography, so many characters were written on that
13:20 🔗 vitzli and probably synthesizers in 70-80s
13:21 🔗 vitzli wait until ride-sharing on self-driving cars would appear, the scream and whining will be huge
13:35 🔗 SketchCow Photography had a lot of it, yes.
13:39 🔗 Baljem still does - the Lomography crowd rather divide opinion - although I, for one, had to stop ignoring them entirely when they revived 110 format film (thus letting me use my baby Pentax again, \o/)
13:45 🔗 SketchCow How can anyone hate Lomography
13:45 🔗 SketchCow That's like hating... I don't know, Robyn Hitchcock
13:46 🔗 ersi SketchCow: Regarding ArchiveCorps; GOOD! That means you're/we're on the right track!
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13:54 🔗 godane SketchCow: i found this for the coverdiscs collection: https://archive.org/details/NetPowerNovember1996
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14:05 🔗 * xmc offers SketchCow hugs
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14:37 🔗 vitzli https://www.reddit.com/r/DataHoarder/comments/3jl3qm/nearly_complete_archive_of_fanfictionnet/
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19:19 🔗 DFJustin http://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2015/08/graphic-whos-the-most-popular-candidate-mentioned-on-television/402451/
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22:32 🔗 anomie What's ArchiveCorps?
22:44 🔗 * anomie takes a greak from irc to read a long article
22:50 🔗 JesseW anomie: "ARCHIVE CORPS is a volunteer effort to organize the saving of physical materials in danger of loss." <- http://www.archivecorps.org/
22:51 🔗 anomie Nice.
22:51 🔗 JesseW also: http://www.theatlantic.com/technology/archive/2015/09/introducing-the-archive-corps/403135/
22:51 🔗 anomie I already googled it. Is it an off-shoot of the archive team, as I suspect?
22:52 🔗 JesseW more or less -- it's currently just a announce-only mailing list of SketchCow's.
22:52 🔗 JesseW but one with over 400 people on it so far :-)
22:55 🔗 anomie Nice. I hope it goes far.
22:56 🔗 anomie Is there a way I could make a good living off of archivism, without completely being a corporate tool?
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23:36 🔗 aaaaaaaaa get a job at archive.org
23:45 🔗 anomie They pay people?
23:47 🔗 Baljem well, they pay SketchCow. he's probably people, although I'm not sure we can discount the "mad archiving robot" theory /just/ yet
23:57 🔗 aaaaaaaaa https://archive.org/about/jobs.php
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