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SketchCow, can we archive 19TB of mouse genomesand send them onto FOS and the IA? |
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arkiver |
With the FTP project that is ^ |
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SketchCow: some more info https://www.sanger.ac.uk/sanger/Mouse_SnpViewer/rel-1303 |
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http://www.sanger.ac.uk/science/data/mouse-genomes-project |
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To be exact, that FTP ^ is 19422781428266 bytes |
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https://twitter.com/uppfinnarn/status/670229025445519360 |
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joepie91 |
computers, ladies and gentlemen |
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godane |
first 10 issues of metropop that i got are getting uploaded |
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godane |
issues 400 to 410 |
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godane |
https://archive.org/details/metropop-400 |
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godane |
will fix metadata later |
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godane |
so i'm at 519k items now |
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godane |
uploaded: https://archive.org/details/russian-Katalog_Lego-1994 |
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schbirid |
godane: holy nostalgia, i remember that catalogue (in german) from my lego heydays :) |
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godane |
i figure people will like that |
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godane |
btw i'm starting to get 2400k TheBlaze TV videos again |
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godane |
whats funny is it just started happening when i was getting 500k copies of Glenn Beck and Dana |
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godane |
then 2015-11-10 of dana when into 2400k |
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godane |
anyways i'm grabbing some of the documentary at 2400k since i only have 500k copies of those |
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godane |
so looks like i may have missed adding the 4 hour mp3 to some of glenn beck insider podcast |
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godane |
i believe the 4 hour started in july 2010 |
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joepie91 |
well then |
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joepie91 |
http://pastebin.com/scraping |
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joepie91 |
pretty sure this page wasn't there before |
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joepie91 |
lol |
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joepie91 |
interesting |
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joepie91 |
so pastebin offers a lifetime pro account for $30 at the moment |
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joepie91 |
which gives you access to their scraping API |
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joepie91 |
do we care about scraping pastebin enough to drop $30on it? |
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SimpBrain |
meh |
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HCross |
Sure we could split it up if needs be |
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joepie91 ping phuzion |
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joepie91 |
so, they require you to use one whitelisted IP |
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joepie91 |
I can probably set up scraping |
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phuzion |
Yeah, that's the only thing I particularly noticed about it was the single IP restriction |
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joepie91 |
if there's no risk of them changing the layout or banning me for it, then it should be pretty much zero-maintenance |
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joepie91 |
phuzion: I can kind of understand it, though |
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phuzion |
Yeah, otherwise they'd get shared all over the place |
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joepie91 |
yep |
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phuzion |
Like we were planning to do :) |
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joepie91 |
especially given that it's lifetime |
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joepie91 |
heh |
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joepie91 |
I can always just set up a proxy |
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phuzion |
Huh |
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joepie91 |
to which I can add credentials for archiveteam people |
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phuzion |
Right |
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joepie91 |
and that internally rate limits |
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phuzion |
But what's the point if you can just do the scraping yourself? |
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joepie91 |
phuzion: we might have, for example, people who need to scrape specific pastes |
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joepie91 |
to fetch URLs from |
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joepie91 |
stuff like that |
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phuzion |
Ahhhh, gotcha. |
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joepie91 |
and if we're going to pool $ for a pastebin account, then we might as well make it a collective one |
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phuzion |
Right |
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phuzion |
That's shockingly cheap for essentially unfettered access to all of pastebin though, isn't it? |
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joepie91 |
yes |
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joepie91 |
ish |
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joepie91 |
compared to other paid APIs, yes, it's cheap |
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joepie91 |
but the idea of charging for an API is a bit stupid to begin with |
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joepie91 |
:p |
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phuzion |
Depends on what the API does, IMO. |
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joepie91 |
not really |
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joepie91 |
see, the thing is |
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joepie91 |
an API call is cheaper than a frontend call for the same data |
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joepie91 |
to the provider |
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joepie91 |
so why limit API calls but not frontend calls? |
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joepie91 |
sure, I can understand limits for eg. complex search queries |
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phuzion |
frontend calls are assumed to also be generating ad revenue. |
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joepie91 |
but those should be enforced in the frontend also |
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joepie91 |
not if scrapers use them |
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joepie91 |
that's my point |
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joepie91 |
if somebody wants to scrape, they can either use the API or the frontend |
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joepie91 |
neither is going to bring in ad rev |
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joepie91 |
but the API is cheaper for them to provide |
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joepie91 |
so why make that the one with the limit? :P |
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phuzion |
So give them access to the API so they can do so in a less costly manner, gotcha |
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joepie91 |
basically |
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joepie91 |
it benefits both provider and consumer to have a limitless API (or equivalent limits to the frontend) |
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joepie91 |
anyhow, phuzion, HCross, ideas on $? |
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joepie91 |
my current budget remains 0 until hopefully-soon, but idk how long that deal is going to be availabl for |
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joepie91 |
available* |
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joepie91 |
they call it a "black friday deal" but it's not like pastebin isn't _constantly_ running promos |
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phuzion |
I can chip in $10 or something, but I don't have paypal. |
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HCross |
they always seem to be doing promos. My budget is 0 until the start of Dec when I get paid |
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joepie91 |
phuzion: what do you have? |
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HCross |
Where in the world are you? |
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joepie91 |
who, me? or phuzion? |
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phuzion |
Unless you take credit cards directly, I probably can't give you money over the internet now that I think about it. |
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phuzion |
lol |
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HCross |
phuzion |
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phuzion |
I'm in the US, btw. |
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joepie91 |
phuzion: you can go through my donation form... :P |
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joepie91 |
creditcard-via-paypal |
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phuzion |
joepie91: let me know once you've got a few other people to chip in on this and I'll send a few bucks your way for it. |
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joepie91 |
noted :P I will await responses from others... |
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joepie91 |
so, because it has scrolled out of view: pooling together $30 for a pastebin pro lifetime account, which gives API access for one(?) IP which means we can scrape properly without blocks |
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joepie91 |
anybody who wants to chip in, please maketh thyself known |
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HCross |
joepie91, you going to hold the Pastebin acc? Or let someone like SketchCow own it |
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joepie91 |
HCross: I don't mind either way, but it's probably most practical if the one doing the scraping has access to the account (because of the IP whitelisting) |
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joepie91 |
even if that's just an `archiveteam` account changing hands when needed |
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HCross |
ye, just wondering if they will pick up on account sharing |
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joepie91 |
shouldn't matter |
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joepie91 |
it's just going to be one IP using it |
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dashcloud |
joepie91: how do you accept money? I can probably give you the $30 depending on if I can get you the money |
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HCross |
PayPal I think dashcloud |
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HCross |
or CC via PP |
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dashcloud |
got a link to your site joepie91? |
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joepie91 |
dashcloud: http://cryto.net/~joepie91/donate.html |
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joepie91 |
dashcloud: plus SEPA and such |
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achip |
joepie91 I can pitch the $30 for the lifetime account, if the funding isn't there now |
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HCross |
achip, looks like dashcloud has it. You could go halves? |
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achip |
if dashcloud would like, sure |
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joepie91 will await some kind of agreement |
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joepie91 |
(I'll just register an 'archiveteam' account, although with a less obvious name - sleeping dogs etc) |
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dashcloud |
sure- I can't seem to edit my selection from $30 though without cancelling this transaction though |
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16:59
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joepie91 |
(and I'll CC credentials to SketchCow so that the bus factor is 2) |
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dashcloud |
okay- the money should be on its way to you now |
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joepie91 |
dashcloud: St**** Za*****? |
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joepie91 |
(idk if your name is public) |
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dashcloud |
yep |
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joepie91 |
okay :P |
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joepie91 |
you actually sent euro |
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joepie91 |
heh |
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dashcloud |
that's what I was offered |
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joepie91 |
though I don't think it differs much after transaction fees |
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joepie91 |
yeah |
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joepie91 |
right |
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joepie91 |
28.48 post-transaction-fees |
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joepie91 |
== 30.17 $ |
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dashcloud |
apparently the difference isn't that much right nwo |
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joepie91 |
lol |
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joepie91 |
yeah, exchange rate is shit at the moment |
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joepie91 |
dashcloud: can you think of a fun non-obvious username? |
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17:03
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dashcloud |
for this project? |
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17:03
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joepie91 |
dashcloud: for the pastebin account |
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17:03
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joepie91 |
for archiveteam |
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joepie91 |
:p |
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dashcloud |
is f451 too obvious? |
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joepie91 |
I.. have no idea what that means |
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17:04
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dashcloud |
fahrenheit 451, the famous Ray Bradbury story |
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joepie91 |
ahh |
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joepie91 |
worksforme |
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joepie91 |
:P |
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joepie91 |
achip: dashcloud already paid the full amount |
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dashcloud |
if you want to donate anyway, it won't be a waste |
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joepie91 |
will leave that decision up to achip :P I can send back the $ if wanted |
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joepie91 |
mmk, it should activate pro status in a few mins |
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joepie91 |
.. |
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joepie91 |
dashcloud: I typoed the username |
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joepie91 |
gg me |
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joepie91 |
ah well, less obvious I guses |
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joepie91 |
guess* |
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joepie91 |
okay, so |
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joepie91 |
if I get hit by a bus, poke SketchCow - just sent him a copy of the account credentials |
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joepie91 |
if SketchCow gets hit by a bus, we're probably all doomed |
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ersi hops on the Magic School bus |
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xmc |
joepie91: can you op swebb |
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joepie91 sets mode: +o swebb |
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swebb sets mode: +o DFJustin |
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swebb sets mode: +o SadDM |
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swebb sets mode: +o antomatic |
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swebb sets mode: +o balrog |
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swebb sets mode: +o xmc |
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joepie91 |
xmc: there you go |
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xmc |
thanks :) |
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joepie91 |
ops-spreader engaged |
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joepie91 |
:p |
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joepie91 |
looks like housemates may not be coming back home tonight |
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joepie91 |
went to a protest, and 20 arrests have been reported... |
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xmc |
:| |
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joepie91 |
xmc: they'll probably be released in the morning |
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joepie91 |
as usually happens |
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joepie91 |
"oh we didn't actually have a reason to arrest you, sorry, out you go" |
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joepie91 |
pretty much a standard tactic for defusing protests in NL |
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xmc |
same thing here, but with more beatings and fewer apologies |
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vitzli |
no apologies here |
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vitzli |
good night all |
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joepie91 |
I kind of imagined the apology, this isn't Canada :) |
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schbirid |
thanks gnome3 for crashing whenyou try to run your fucking stupid new file dialog |
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joepie91 |
btw |
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joepie91 |
http://www.polygon.com/2015/8/18/9173621/ryan-north-stuck-hole-twitter |
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Twitter Plays Stuck-In-A-Hole |
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joepie91 |
(cc SketchCow ) |
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I think we got that when it happened P: |
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joepie91, it's like that episode of it's always sunny |
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tracker not listing anything? |
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joepie91, what are the protests? Couldn't find anything on google news... |
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kyan: Pegida == neonazis, essentially |
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unfortunately it's being imported to NL |
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they were doing a protest today, and there was a corresponding anti-protest |
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kyan |
aah :( |
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kyan |
thanks for enlightening me :) |
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kyan: I should clarify |
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joepie91 |
neonazis pretending not to be neonazis |
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joepie91 |
doing the entire "concerned citizen" spiel |
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joepie91 |
you know the drill, probably |
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it's fairly telling that the founder of the organization is an arms dealer |
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kyan |
I've heard of similar, but never run across them in real life thanks goodnes |
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kyan is lucky to live in an area without too many nutcases |
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ersi |
I'm sure there's a few actual concerned citizens in those groups as well |
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sure, they're just hitched up by the shady folks |
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joepie91 |
something something Hitler |
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kyan |
Is DocumentCloud mirrored to IA? |
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kyan: it was until two years ago, it seems: https://archive.org/details/documentcloud |
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kyan |
Hmm. |
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Cool, gwern is fiddling about with the AT datasets |
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ersi: oh? |
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Saw some PR's to warcat on Github from gwern |
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no, not PRs - opened issues |
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They're well written (of course, it's gwern :) ) |
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I seem to keep running into gwern everywhere |
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lol |
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so this is the lion king magazine i'm uploading: http://lionking.wikia.com/wiki/The_Lion_King:_A_Nature_Fun_and_Learn_Series |
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uploaded: https://archive.org/details/The_Lion_King_-_A_Nature_Fun_and_Learn_Series-01 |
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ndiddy, Ok master. whatever you say |
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ndiddy |
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:) |
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ndiddy |
so... if you want to do stuff there's the archive team warrior which is a virtualbox appliance that you run and automatically backs up websites |
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ndiddy |
http://www.archiveteam.org/index.php?title=Main_Page |
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