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Sanqui |
huh, apparently there are still live MUD/MUSH/MUCK servers |
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yipdw |
oh yeah |
00:03
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Sanqui |
I wonder if these could be archived |
00:03
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yipdw |
Gemstone <3 |
00:03
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Sanqui |
somehow |
00:03
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Sanqui |
I just telneted to one |
00:05
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JesseW |
Yay, band! |
00:13
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Sanqui |
I think the closest one could get to "archiving" a MUD is by doing something like the following |
00:13
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Sanqui |
detect the server it uses, so you know what commands are compatible and general behavior |
00:14
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Sanqui |
walk everywhere, look at everything, try out everything that can provide description of some kind |
00:14
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Sanqui |
maybe try actions next? |
00:14
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Sanqui |
idk I've never played one |
00:14
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Sanqui |
lol |
00:16
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godane |
starting to upload StreamRoot DT fileshttps://archive.org/details/e_history_StreamRoot_DT_0001_1956_01 |
00:17
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godane |
only 161 files out of what should be 167 |
00:18
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arkiver |
godane: waw, nice |
00:21
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HCross |
Any specific do's and dont's when archiving stuff from servers in North Korea? |
00:22
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godane |
its south korean stuff |
00:22
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HCross |
stuff like the KCNA |
00:22
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godane |
they have stuff still in dial up video mms streams |
00:23
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godane |
and realmedia if start going back to 1999 to 2000 |
00:23
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HCross |
Obv I wont go to agressive on them, but was wondering if there is anything I need to take especially good note of? |
00:24
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godane |
i don't know about kcna stuff |
00:24
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godane |
i know mostly about kbs |
01:05
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JesseW |
just donated to the telethon |
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swebb sets mode: +o aaaaaaaaa |
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04:35
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godane |
so my personal archiving of byte magazine may have helped in finding a "lost" issue |
04:35
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godane |
turns out some one uploaded a zip of byte magazine for 1994-05 |
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04:42
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JesseW |
godane: link? |
04:47
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godane |
https://archive.org/details/199405BYTE1905ComponentWare |
05:01
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JesseW |
I just added an entry for the telethon to MusicBrainz: https://musicbrainz.org/recording/890b435b-afc0-4389-898e-32733a7103c7 |
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08:59
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yipdw |
I love this comment https://www.jwz.org/blog/2015/12/the-internet-archive-telethon-is-live-now/#comment-165199 |
08:59
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yipdw |
"don't give them money to fix the problem I am talking about" |
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14:32
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zenguy |
how can i wget this site http://electriciantraining.tpub.com/ ? wget -m -k -nv -c -e robots=off doesn't seem to grab everything |
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15:21
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CatButts |
the cat butt will rise |
15:22
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* |
CatButts unpacks contents of memory |
15:22
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CatButts |
hie fie |
15:22
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CatButts |
*hi |
15:23
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fie |
yo |
15:23
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CatButts |
I remembering pestering you about some aussie TV show |
15:23
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CatButts |
weeks ago |
15:24
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CatButts |
some private tracker forum post |
15:24
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fie |
still nothing |
15:24
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CatButts |
ah |
15:24
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CatButts |
as for Nevashut game, tough luck |
15:24
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CatButts |
I have low hopes for that |
15:25
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fie |
I put a small bounty on it, if I had a better ratio i would put more to get it more attention |
15:25
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CatButts |
also, I have shitloads of CDs |
15:25
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CatButts |
and they sit in my cabinet and rot |
15:25
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CatButts |
hahahahaha |
15:25
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CatButts |
for years they have |
15:25
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fie |
of what? |
15:26
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CatButts |
CDs that come with software and gaming magazines |
15:26
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Smiley |
http://dberkholz.com/2006/09/06/gentoo-lots-of-new-gui-config-tools/ |
15:26
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Smiley |
failz |
15:27
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CatButts |
https://s2.wp.com/wp-content/blog-plugins/domains/expiring-domain-alert/images/automattobot-panic-level-high.gif |
15:27
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CatButts |
beep beep boop boop |
15:27
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fie |
Uh oh! Your blog’s domain dberkholz.com expired 6 days ago! |
15:27
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CatButts |
any idea what to do with those CDs? |
15:28
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joepie91 |
CatButts: where are you physically? |
15:28
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joepie91 |
country-wise |
15:28
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CatButts |
Romania |
15:28
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CatButts |
I have no intention to ship stuff |
15:28
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CatButts |
at best, I will rip ISOs and scan covers/CD |
15:28
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joepie91 |
CatButts: on Linux? |
15:29
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CatButts |
I am on windux |
15:29
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CatButts |
weendoze |
15:29
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CatButts |
>iso |
15:29
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joepie91 |
right, so ISO alone won't be enough because there may be multi-track CDs, but I don't know of any batch imaging tools for Windows that will produce archival-quality copies |
15:29
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CatButts |
I will rip one by one manually |
15:30
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CatButts |
but for this, I will need to find person who is interested in said CDs |
15:30
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CatButts |
and deals with archival of such a thing |
15:30
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joepie91 |
CatButts: try SketchCo1 :P but he's at the telethon right now |
15:31
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joepie91 |
CatButts: anyhow, if you want to image them yourself, you want a bin/cue, as generated by cdrdao (not sure what tools exist for this on Windows) |
15:31
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joepie91 |
cover and label scans at at least 300DPI, preferably 600DPI |
15:31
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CatButts |
yeah, I've been told ISO is not exactly ideal format |
15:31
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joepie91 |
DVDs can be safely imaged as ISOs in all cases, as they don't have multi-track features |
15:31
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joepie91 |
(CDs do) |
15:31
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joepie91 |
yeah |
15:31
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joepie91 |
ISO will only work for single-track disks |
15:32
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joepie91 |
it's not always easy to identify whether a disk is single-track or not |
15:32
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joepie91 |
CatButts: fwiw, I wrote this for Linux: https://github.com/joepie91/image-disc/blob/master/image.py - perhaps it may be useful as a reference |
15:32
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joepie91 |
auto-detects disc type and images to appropriate format |
15:34
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* |
CatButts vaguely remembers aussie he used to talk to on IRC with |
15:34
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CatButts |
he might be the answer to my aussie show connundrum |
15:36
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joepie91 |
CatButts: fwiw, this is where your magazine disk uploads will likely end up: https://archive.org/details/coverdiscs |
15:36
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CatButts |
also, there's also issue of malware with some shareware disks |
15:37
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CatButts |
lol DOS malware |
15:37
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joepie91 |
wouldn't worry about it too much tbh |
15:37
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joepie91 |
may set off the virus scanner |
15:37
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joepie91 |
if it does, email IA and let them know |
15:38
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CatButts |
eh, I'm sure the uploads are inspected |
15:40
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* |
CatButts rolls on his lazy arse |
15:42
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Smiley |
hmmm |
15:42
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Smiley |
just realised the telephon is one |
15:42
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Smiley |
telethon, is on. even |
15:42
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Smiley |
or rather, was. |
15:45
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Smiley |
hmmm |
15:46
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ersi |
SketchCo1 be dancin |
15:46
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Smiley |
yah |
15:46
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Smiley |
told mah homies to donate |
15:46
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Smiley |
for what it's worth :/ |
15:47
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joepie91 |
CatButts: there's an automated virus scanner |
15:47
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joepie91 |
CatButts: that might dark items |
15:47
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joepie91 |
because there've been problems with people using IA for malware distribution before |
15:47
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joepie91 |
so anything that gets darked that way will likely not get further attention from IA unless you notify them |
15:49
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CatButts |
got it |
15:50
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CatButts |
do I get notified if something I upload gets dorked? |
15:51
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Smiley |
dorked? |
15:51
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CatButts |
darked |
15:51
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CatButts |
I maed a pun |
15:51
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CatButts |
I go to punitenciary |
15:52
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Smiley |
dorke:O |
15:53
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CatButts |
*video of fanatical religious woman yelling DARK SIDE, but having it sound like DORK instead* |
15:53
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Smiley |
hehe |
15:54
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CatButts |
it's the one where people come to house to give her a monetary prize for something and she goes nut and rips their check and argues |
15:54
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CatButts |
in front of her familly |
15:54
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CatButts |
or a daughter at least |
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15:58
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Smiley |
no idea what this is but ok :D |
15:58
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CatButts |
then I will seek it |
15:59
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CatButts |
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bOpva_iit-8 |
15:59
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CatButts |
probably this |
16:00
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CatButts |
yep |
16:03
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CatButts |
I should get off my arse and backup my favourite porns |
16:04
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joepie91 |
well |
16:04
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joepie91 |
not sure wtf just happened |
16:04
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joepie91 |
but something hooked behind something else and then half the contents of my desk flew off |
16:04
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joepie91 |
somehow |
16:04
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joepie91 |
... my external HDD appears to have survived |
16:06
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CatButts |
doesn't sound like a good place to store data |
16:09
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CatButts |
I've heard stories of low reliability regarding external HDDs |
16:13
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CatButts |
I have internal SATA HDDs I use externally |
16:13
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CatButts |
though, I have to power off PC to use |
16:14
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CatButts |
which I don't mind, because I do it once a month |
16:14
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CatButts |
for partition backup |
16:19
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Smiley |
joepie91: :/ |
16:19
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Smiley |
glad the disk survived |
16:20
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Smiley |
i had a poer blip kill 1 disk in a raid |
16:20
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Smiley |
fine, fine, got backups, annoying |
16:20
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Smiley |
start restoring from backups |
16:20
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Smiley |
second disk had also fried but not quite enough to kill it directly |
16:20
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Smiley |
only discover after 2 days of restoring XD |
16:38
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joepie91 |
CatButts: yeah, internal HDD + external enclosure |
16:38
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joepie91 |
I don't trust ready-made external HDDs anymore |
16:39
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joepie91 |
I have made a habit of looping my external HDD power cable behind something |
16:39
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joepie91 |
which means it powers off before it hits the ground |
16:39
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joepie91 |
I suspect that that+ carpet on the floor saved irt |
16:39
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joepie91 |
it* |
16:41
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Smiley |
hmmm nice |
16:41
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Smiley |
I once dropped a CRT monitor from about 5ft, watched it bounce, still powered on |
16:41
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Smiley |
why aren't electronics like that anymore :D |
16:41
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joepie91 |
Smiley: well, HDDs never were |
16:41
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joepie91 |
:P |
16:42
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Smiley |
yah true |
16:42
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joepie91 |
Smiley: and um, my Samsung TFT has been operating with a deep scratch in the screen for... 4 years now? |
16:42
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joepie91 |
as in |
16:42
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joepie91 |
probably several millimeter deep scratch |
16:43
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joepie91 |
Smiley: corner of one of these landed on it: 1288171765_c8fa075e07_logo |
16:43
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joepie91 |
er |
16:43
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joepie91 |
http://www.bouwbinder.nl/typo3temp/GB/690-1-1288171765_c8fa075e07_logo-bouwbinder_773648e9d1_d8a00830a8.jpg |
16:44
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joepie91 |
aside from a brightly lit scratch in the middle of my screen, ~3cm high, there's been absolutely zero quality degradation through the years |
16:44
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joepie91 |
so, robust hardware does still exist :p |
17:03
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CatButts |
robutts |
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Smiley |
heh |
17:22
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Smiley |
m samsung has a nice scratcch too |
17:22
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Smiley |
not quite that dewep |
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Smiley |
daughter hitting keyboard |
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Smiley |
http://thumbs.ebaystatic.com/d/l225/m/mhq6FtMJoG67WzdlPXJ8OMw.jpg |
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Smiley |
fell on him |
17:25
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Smiley |
sry for bad pic :/ |
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godane |
another lost byte magazine found not in collection: https://archive.org/details/198610ByteMagazineVol1111InsideTheIBMPC |
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godane |
this guy saved lots of mid to late 1990s byte magazine: https://archive.org/details/@epobirs |
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Amitari |
Hey, can anyone here help me with wget? |
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JesseW |
I'm not familiar enough with wget, sadly. |
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Smiley |
Amitari: depends what u need |
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Amitari |
I'm mirroring a PhpBB forum, and I read on the wiki that I should save some cookies first. When I try however, I get the message "Remote file exists and could contain further links,but recursion is disabled -- not retrieving." |
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Smiley |
but recursion is disabled |
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Smiley |
thewres your clue |
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Amitari |
I didn't find any info about this on the web though... |
18:52
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Smiley |
https://www.google.co.uk/search?q=wget+enable+recursion&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8&gws_rd=cr&ei=_fh2VvmQMsaKPsfvuMgB |
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Smiley |
no? |
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Amitari |
Oh... |
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Amitari |
Sorry for bothering you then... |
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Smiley |
tis ok to ask :D |
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Smiley |
u get what u need?@ |
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Smiley |
-r |
18:54
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Smiley |
wget .... -r |
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Amitari |
Wait, no... |
18:55
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Amitari |
Do you know how to download PhpBB-forums? |
18:55
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Amitari |
The example command on the wiki doesn't seem to work for some reason. |
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Smiley |
what does the command on the wiki do? (and link please to the wiki page) |
18:56
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Smiley |
I haven't archived anything personally for long time |
18:56
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Smiley |
busy with so many things :/ |
18:56
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Amitari |
http://www.archiveteam.org/index.php?title=PhpBB |
18:56
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Amitari |
Let me get the results for you on Pastebin... |
18:56
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Smiley |
ty :) |
18:56
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Smiley |
now we are getting somewhere :) |
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Smiley |
Also I'm about to shower my daughter, so I'll be on and off |
18:57
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Smiley |
but stick around and someone will attempt to assist you anyway once we have the info we need :) |
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Amitari |
Smiley: Here. http://pastebin.com/GLEbVVJP |
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Smiley |
ah ok |
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Amitari |
So, know what to do? |
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Smiley |
I think so |
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Smiley |
I don't think you're using bash? |
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Amitari |
I don't know to be honest. |
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We'll see how things go |
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Smiley |
instead of $(date +...) |
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arkiver |
oops, sorry |
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Smiley |
just use 20151220 |
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arkiver |
wrong window |
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Smiley |
so http://sloyer.5forum.info20151220 |
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Smiley |
for the warcfile and log |
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Amitari |
Let me try... |
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Smiley |
wait nope |
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Smiley |
it is working, as it's crying about the log file o_O |
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Smiley |
run this: |
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Smiley |
touch http://sloyer.5forum.info20151220.log |
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schbirid |
have you tried the phpbb page in the wiki? |
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Smiley |
schbirid: this is from it... |
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schbirid |
ayyyyy |
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Smiley |
:D |
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Amitari |
Wait... |
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Smiley |
wget: http://sloyer.5forum.info20151220.log: No such file or directory |
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Smiley |
wget isnt' creating the log file |
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Amitari |
I tried the first thing, same result. |
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schbirid |
give me a second |
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Smiley |
that's... odd |
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Smiley |
man page deffo says it'll create a log file if one doesn't exist |
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schbirid |
ah |
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Smiley |
Amitari: can you pastebin the output of ls -lah ./ |
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schbirid |
stop |
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schbirid |
start from the beginning |
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schbirid |
"Remote file exists and could contain further links,but recursion is disabled -- not retrieving." |
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schbirid |
means nothing here |
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schbirid |
the first wget is ONLY to get a cookie |
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Smiley |
yesh I told him to turn on -r for that |
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Smiley |
oph wait |
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Smiley |
hmm :/ |
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Smiley bows out |
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Smiley |
Daughter ready for shower |
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Amitari |
Uh, I'm not sure if I want to pastebin the outpus of ls on my /home directory... |
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schbirid |
this forum does not even need a cookie |
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Smiley |
oh then we don't need that command :D |
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schbirid |
>:D |
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Amitari |
So, anything I could do? |
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schbirid |
Amitari: i'd always suggest to use a specific directory to play around in, not your home :) i use a ramdisk |
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schbirid |
try simply the second wget line from http://www.archiveteam.org/index.php?title=PhpBB and remove the " --keep-session-cookies" bit if you want |
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schbirid |
err |
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Amitari |
Oh, alright. |
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schbirid |
the " --keep-session-cookies --load-cookies=COOKIEFILE" part |
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Amitari |
I'll try. |
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schbirid |
if you dont care about being nice, remove the "-w 1" part |
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Amitari |
I get the problems with the log file again.. |
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schbirid |
what name did you specify for the log file? you must not use the http:// in it |
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schbirid |
wget -m -a sloyer.5forum.info_$(date +%Y%m%d).log -e robots=off -nv --adjust-extension --convert-links --page-requisites --reject-regex='(\?p=|&p=|mode=reply|view=|search.php|/abuse\?)' --warc-file=sloyer.5forum.info_$(date +%Y%m%d) --warc-cdx http://sloyer.5forum.info/ |
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Amitari |
Ah, now it works! |
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schbirid |
:) |
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Amitari |
It still gives that error about timestamps, but it still works. |
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Amitari |
Thank you! |
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Amitari |
It looks like it doesn't archive the images though... |
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schbirid |
"WARC output does not work with timestamping, timestamping will be disabled."? no problem, that's just a warning, you can totally ignore it |
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Amitari |
Yeah, I know. |
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schbirid |
it just means that it will download everything |
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schbirid |
external images are not included, no :\ |
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Amitari |
Can I make it include them? |
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schbirid |
iirc i never succeeded but did the grab first, then grepped the files for external urls and grabbed them later :\ |
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schbirid |
wpull probably does it well: https://wpull.readthedocs.org/en/master/usage.html |
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schbirid |
omg |
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schbirid |
--span-hosts-allow linked-pages,page-requisites |
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schbirid |
chfoo i love you |
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Amitari |
So, if I add that to the command, it will download the external images? |
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schbirid |
if you use wpull(!) i guess this would do --span-hosts-allow page-requisites |
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schbirid |
hrm, wpull is broken for me :( |
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Amitari |
Nevermind, the text is plenty. |
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schbirid |
i hope she was satisfied :\ |
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DFJustin |
https://www.indiegogo.com/projects/skrolli-international-edition#/ |
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o-nJpaCXL0k |
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err3 |
hey |
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err3 |
what happened with the telethon? |
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joepie91 |
it finished |