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godane |
first 9 episodes of On The Move with Mark Worley are uploaded: https://archive.org/details/on-the-move-with-mark-worley-episode-1 |
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godane |
i plan on uploading all 99 episodes of it |
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godane |
good news about medium.com |
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godane |
they do have sitemaps |
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godane |
it change from static to sitemap https://medium.com/sitemap/posts/2015/posts-2015-10-12.xml |
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FAMAS |
request to archive: http://antipsychiatry.org/ |
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FAMAS |
recommended archive format: zpaq for maximum compression possible |
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asdf |
how big is the site you reckon? |
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FAMAS |
archiveteam stated policy is not ask, do, do archiving |
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asdf |
FAMAS, ^ |
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asdf |
FAMAS, so you're saying the site is multiple terrabytes big? |
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FAMAS |
asdf: what tool you used to analyze that? |
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asdf |
I'm asking you |
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JesseW |
it appears to be a reasonably small collection of text essays -- shouldn't be too big |
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FAMAS |
archiveteam stated policy is not ask, do, do archiving |
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FAMAS |
check archiveteam policy. |
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asdf |
I'll just start the job, JesseW |
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FAMAS |
recommended archive format: zpaq for maximum compression possible |
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FAMAS |
winner of hutter prize as of present time |
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Fletcher |
...righto |
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asdf |
FAMAS, it's now being archived! |
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FAMAS |
asdf: what tool are you using for archiving? |
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phuzion |
FAMAS: #archivebot |
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asdf |
FAMAS, it will archive the site just fine. |
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asdf |
with the same care as all our other archives. |
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FAMAS |
so archiveteam has a bot setup in a remote system which is invoked by commands from archiveteam staff located in remote locations? |
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asdf |
multiple bots. |
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FAMAS |
recommended reading: hutter prize toplist for idea regarding current winners of it which provide maximum compression ratios. filesizes matter regarding slow internet connection and capped internet connections |
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FAMAS |
7zip is long overdue regarding decommissionment |
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asdf |
we're not going to use paq, let's that just be said. |
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asdf |
nor 7z |
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FAMAS |
this user requests an enquiry on the reasons for that |
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phuzion |
FAMAS: You're requesting an inquiry as to why we won't use some esoteric compression algorithm? |
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FAMAS |
phuzion: this user, referring to self, has stumbled upon cases of archiveteam archives being utilized in situations where internet connection is either slow, or capped, or both |
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FAMAS |
across multiple nations |
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FAMAS |
considered the scenerio |
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phuzion |
I understand that you are or were under bandwidth constraints. We have to consider making our work available to as many people as possible, and using what is an extraordinarily rare compression system only acts as a hindrance to that. Yes, PAQ may result in smaller filesizes. |
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phuzion |
If we archive our data in an esoteric format that almost no one has the capability to extract, what good does it do? |
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phuzion |
Also, by the wiki article's own claim, PAQ is a memory hog, and slow. |
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FAMAS |
most recent implementation zpaq has removed the memory issue, testing on peazip/bulkzip can prove or disprove, this user is not very indepth-studied regarding data archival |
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asdf |
it's a moving target still |
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FAMAS |
what is the frequency of updating existing archives? |
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asdf |
generally there are no set schedules for that. |
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FAMAS |
what are the bandwidths for the botservers? |
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Fletcher |
Assuming you're still talking about ArchiveBot it's difficult to say since pipelines are run by volunteers. |
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yipdw |
that is one of the more surreal conversations I've seen in here |
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FAMAS |
Fletcher: this user is referring to the servers where archivebot is run and is used to automatically archive sites |
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yipdw |
Fletcher gave you an accurate answer |
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FAMAS |
explain to this user regarding the referred pipelines |
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yipdw |
it's a fetch system, go to #archivebot to learn more |
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FAMAS |
asdf: what is the progress status of that archiving drive? |
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asdf |
for your site you mean? |
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espes___ |
so was the telethon actually recorded? :P |
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asdf |
most likely they did that locally |
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asdf |
wouldn't you think |
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Smiley |
and youtube archives all live broadcasts anyway |
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espes___ |
that's what i thought, but it's only got 4 hours of it |
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asdf |
they'll probably put up their local grabs somewhere, they're bound to be of the best quality of all other options as well |
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espes___ |
you assume anybody knew what they were doing :P |
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asdf |
I'm pretty sure they were that much on top of things |
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FAMAS |
asdf: what is the link to status reports regarding site archivals? |
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asdf |
FAMAS, I just did it for you over in that other channel. |
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FAMAS |
asdf: this user is seeking the website page if any exists where all status is shown |
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FAMAS |
for all current ongoing archivals |
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asdf |
here my good user: http://dashboard.at.ninjawedding.org/?showNicks=1 |
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asdf |
FAMAS, ^ |
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FAMAS |
is it acceptable to crawl and archive external links relative to site? |
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FAMAS |
this user is noticing sites that are not within the domain being archive |
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FAMAS |
archived |
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HCross |
Yes |
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FAMAS |
HCross: that would be counterproductive to site-archival as external materials would bloat the main archive |
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asdf |
they are made to be pretty much self-contained, FAMAS |
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asdf |
that's why it's done this way |
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SketchCo1 is now known as Sketchcow |
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HCross |
if you are looking at my grab of the BBC sites, thats because the BBC partners with broadcasters in the respective countries |
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FAMAS |
asdf: notice the download of anti-psychiatry.org |
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FAMAS |
what is required for this user to gain the ability to issue commands to archivebot? |
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ivan` |
did someone beat FAMAS until he stopped saying "I" and "me"? I am genuinely puzzled |
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asdf |
maybe but noone here |
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asdf |
must have happened before we had the honor |
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asdf |
if so |
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Smiley |
this gone bye bye over night |
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Smiley |
https://stratoscard.com/ |
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appearently there is some problem with suspend/resume on Intel systems with Intel graphics that causes triple-buffering detection in kwin to go haywire |
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yipdw |
I like how not even Intel can get an Intel system to properly wake up |
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yipdw |
or maybe Linux suspend/resume is still just broken I dunno |
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