#archiveteam-bs 2015-12-28,Mon

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02:36 🔗 Sketchcow Total items updated: 19137
02:36 🔗 Sketchcow Damn, that's a lot of covers fixed
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02:46 🔗 Start romhacking.net now requires a forum account to download anything, and also blocks wayback with robots.txt
02:46 🔗 Start i'm currently grabbing all of their files
02:47 🔗 Start the login can be bypassed with the correct referrer and cookies
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07:03 🔗 godane https://archive.org/details/Sex_Has_A_Price_Tag_2000_2000_VHSRip
07:31 🔗 Start all rom hacks & translations have been grabbed from romhacking.net, currently working on utilities
08:10 🔗 godane https://archive.org/details/Universal_Studios_Florida_-_Experience_the_Magic_of_the_Movies_1990_VHSRip
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08:36 🔗 godane i'm official past 570k items
08:39 🔗 godane https://archive.org/details/A_Star_To_Call_Home_1995_VHSRip
09:54 🔗 espes___ godane: love it
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11:35 🔗 arkiver godane: I found albanian newspapers here http://gazeta55.al/
11:35 🔗 arkiver url has the date in it: http://gazeta55.al/wp-content/uploads/pdf/20151227.pdf
11:40 🔗 godane i'm grabbing right now
11:44 🔗 godane bad news is you may only get 2015 pdfs
11:45 🔗 godane there were pdfs going back to 2009
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12:03 🔗 HCross This would be a good thing for NewsBuddy
12:08 🔗 arkiver Yep, newsbuddy is grabbing it too
12:08 🔗 arkiver It would be nice though to also have it as items in IA
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12:31 🔗 godane so some good news
12:32 🔗 godane i found some weekly polish news papers
12:32 🔗 godane they go back to at least 2007
12:35 🔗 godane example url: http://media.zwielkopolski24.pl/gazeta/4/2007/22.pdf
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12:37 🔗 godane and of course i found this: http://www.qbz.gov.al/botime/fletore_zyrtare/2014/PDF-2014/140-2014.pdf
12:41 🔗 godane another newspaper now from russia: http://www.oblgazeta.ru/media/newspaperpdf/2015-11-27_og_219.pdf
12:52 🔗 arkiver godane: I'm finding a lot of newspapers while indexing sites for NewsGrabber
12:52 🔗 arkiver I'll post them here if I find them
12:57 🔗 godane https://archive.org/details/Comic_Book_Collector_1990_VHSRip
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16:53 🔗 anomie Bad news guys. I think nicovideo-dl is ded!
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19:11 🔗 SmileyG https://www.reddit.com/r/privacy/comments/3yinij/entire_us_voter_registration_record_leaks_191/
19:11 🔗 SmileyG we missed out XD
19:13 🔗 xmc $7 will get you a dvd of the whole database for my state from the government, i'm not sure why this is considered secret
19:14 🔗 yipdw_ bad civics education
19:14 🔗 yipdw_ is now known as yipdw
19:15 🔗 yipdw although
19:16 🔗 yipdw the voting history is not something I expected to see in that database
19:18 🔗 yipdw oh, maybe it's just "you voted on [date], not "you voted for [X] on [date]"
19:18 🔗 yipdw I hope
19:18 🔗 xmc correct
19:19 🔗 xmc it's a list of the times you turned in a ballot
19:19 🔗 yipdw ah ok
19:19 🔗 yipdw well, I guess even that can tell a lot, like if you turned in a ballot several years ago and then never turned another one in
19:19 🔗 xmc yep
19:20 🔗 yipdw at least it's not voting with party affiliations, though, because that's the sort of shit that gets people irrationally mad
19:22 🔗 yipdw somewhat related to this, I tried searching for myself in a voter databases and found the data to be a hilarious mess of multiple records mashed together
19:22 🔗 yipdw it looks like there are programmers out there that still believe name is a grouping key
19:24 🔗 xmc yeah!
19:24 🔗 xmc it's because we don't assign uuids to humans.
19:24 🔗 yipdw get on that
19:24 🔗 xmc ok
19:24 🔗 xmc you are now 7439c9cb-da82-4546-bcf4-6e1b87a92b23
19:24 🔗 yipdw no I'm 78009e5a-1202-406c-8c22-9bc2951aa512
19:24 🔗 xmc close enough
19:27 🔗 HCross well people here in the UK technically have uuids
19:27 🔗 HCross called National Insurance numbers
19:29 🔗 xmc #actually
19:29 🔗 xmc in the us we do too. they're a combination of public identifier and a secret that you use to verify that you are you
19:30 🔗 xmc (it's not supposed to make sense, don't worry if it sounds confusing)
19:30 🔗 yipdw wait, what number is that
19:30 🔗 yipdw I can
19:30 🔗 xmc TIN/SSN
19:30 🔗 yipdw I can't think of what
19:30 🔗 yipdw oh
19:30 🔗 yipdw which one of those is secret again?
19:30 🔗 yipdw as far as I know every SSN is public
19:31 🔗 xmc tin and ssn are nonoverlapping ranges of the same numbering range
19:31 🔗 xmc it's a semipublic identifier, yes
19:31 🔗 xmc but you use it to prove to banks that you are you
19:31 🔗 yipdw ah right
19:31 🔗 xmc by virtue of being able to tell it to them
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19:35 🔗 yipdw well I guess Troy Hunt now has an excuse to make haveibeenpwned.com just return "Yes"
19:35 🔗 yipdw assuming US origin
19:35 🔗 yipdw imagine the optimization opportunitie
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23:06 🔗 kyan Oh come on, where's the dump of the voter info? Also, why only 191m records instead of something closer to the 319m population of the country?
23:06 🔗 kyan I want to look myself up to see if they got my info right
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23:08 🔗 xmc not everyone votes
23:08 🔗 kyan Here are some http://opendata.stackexchange.com/questions/965/voter-registration-data-in-one-place
23:09 🔗 kyan Ok, 54.9% turnout in 2012 election
23:09 🔗 DFJustin kids can't vote, and a lot of people who are eligible aren't registered because the US has a silly system
23:09 🔗 kyan the voter info dump is 60%
23:10 🔗 kyan I'd think a lot of voters would have registered but just couldn't be arsed to vote
23:10 🔗 kyan so I'd expect more than a 5% difference between registration and turnout
23:10 🔗 kyan Maybe some of that is votes by unregistered people?
23:11 🔗 xmc is that a thing?
23:11 🔗 DFJustin turnout % is usually expressed in reference to the total # of registered
23:11 🔗 kyan (in other words, I would expect a lot of people to get excited about their first time they can vote when they become an adult, then have their candidate lose, and be like, fuck it I won't bother next time)
23:11 🔗 kyan DFJustin: Aaah, that clarifies that a lot
23:11 🔗 DFJustin so I would assume it's 54.9% of the 60% i.e. a little over 30% of the total population
23:12 🔗 kyan That makes a lot of sense
23:12 🔗 xmc i think turnout is usually reported as percent of eligible voters, not registered?
23:12 🔗 DFJustin or maybe I dunno
23:12 🔗 xmc but yeah
23:12 🔗 xmc could be either way
23:13 🔗 kyan Anyway, I want the data. It's public records, and no reason it shouldn't be archived in IA or something
23:13 🔗 kyan Also I registered with a dead (historically relevant) party just for fun, so I wonder if they got it right
23:14 🔗 kyan (the Socialist Labor Party of America, aka the Workingmen's Party)
23:14 🔗 DFJustin For the denominator, it is often assumed that the number of eligible voters was well defined, but again, this is not the case. In the United States, for example, there is no accurate registry of exactly who is eligible to vote, since only about 70–75% of people choose to register themselves.[58]
23:15 🔗 xmc my state at least requires you to get it through the post
23:15 🔗 DFJustin if you remove under-18s from the population maybe that gets the 60% up into the 70s
23:15 🔗 xmc the reason they do this is because, while public, there's potential for abuse, so why not make people jump through a very easy hoop
23:15 🔗 DFJustin and then there would be a bigger difference with the 54% figure
23:15 🔗 xmc it weeds out a lot of shitheads
23:16 🔗 kyan Public records should be public, IMO
23:16 🔗 kyan and easily obtained, for free
23:16 🔗 kyan I should be able to go to like voters.gov and look up my info
23:17 🔗 DFJustin voter records tend to have names and addresses, which is a problem because now if you say a dumb thing on the internet people can come to your house and hurt you
23:17 🔗 xmc yeah
23:17 🔗 xmc not every information which is freely available needs to be instantly available for $0
23:17 🔗 xmc there are multiple concerns to balance
23:17 🔗 myself so, as a licensed ham, I hear ya..
23:18 🔗 xmc i also wish the ham radio database was a bit harder to find
23:18 🔗 kyan I think it should. People can come hurt you if you cut them in line at the grocery store too, just by looking you up in the phone book
23:18 🔗 myself how do I look up "rude douchebag" in the phonebook?
23:18 🔗 xmc i think you're wrong and i'm not going to state my case again
23:18 🔗 * xmc goes back to work
23:18 🔗 kyan Well, in a small town chances are you know everyone :P
23:18 🔗 myself what percent of the population lives in towns where that's the case?
23:19 🔗 kyan Anyway, people coming to your house and hurting you is a failure of law and order. It's not the fault of publically available information.
23:19 🔗 myself but until law and order becomes perfect, defense-in-depth will have merit.
23:19 🔗 kyan Perhaps, but I don't think truly free speech exists until you can't get fucked up by pissing off some loser skid online.
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23:21 🔗 kyan Also: Maine's voter registration data request form is a Microsoft Word file. How is that "free" access to public information? It sure wouldn't be if the file format hadn't been reverse-engineered.
23:22 🔗 xmc i'm sure you can send them a fucking handwritten letter asking for it
23:23 🔗 kyan Also they could make their form a fucking txt file. There's nothing in it that needs Word
23:23 🔗 xmc do you really think they're being malicious?
23:24 🔗 kyan No, I think they're being ignorant.
23:24 🔗 kyan They probably are being malicious about other things, though.
23:24 🔗 xmc and how is getting worked up in irc going to fix anything
23:24 🔗 kyan It's not, but I like ranting
23:26 🔗 kyan Ranting is one of my hobbies. I heard Maine's governor made a specific law to improve the commercial opportunities for Canadian companies wanting to use Maine land. How is that helping America? We need people in office that will protect American jobs and resources
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23:27 🔗 xmc destroy america
23:28 🔗 kyan I love America. Where else could ya legally own a flamethrower
23:29 🔗 kyan That said the political situation, and a lot of the laws, are completely fucked
23:50 🔗 Sketchcow kyan: A lot of places you can have a flamethrower
23:50 🔗 Sketchcow Liberia
23:50 🔗 Sketchcow (America RAW)
23:54 🔗 kyan Clarification, a place where I can have a flamethrower without massive poverty and war
23:55 🔗 xmc still not sure america fits that description
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