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JesseW, thanks, do you know what would be cheaper resource-wise for IA - to serve metadata from /metadata/ json requests or serve .xml files directly from the storage? |
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isn't the metadata API supposedly super optimized? |
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vitzli: from what jake told me, use /metadata/ |
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JesseW |
not direct download of the .xml. That's what iamine does, and he wrote it. |
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I mean, if for some reason you *want* the xml rather than json, it's probably fine to download the xml -- but there's no need to do so for performance reasons, AFAIK |
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regarding optimized -- I wouldn't be surprised if they didn't have various layers of caching in place for the JSON /metadata/ which wouldn't work for direct download of the XML. |
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argh, too many negatives -- let me rephrase that |
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JesseW: that's not too many non-negatives, nah |
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vitzli |
I understand, that's why I asked the question - I don't want to hit metadata servers hard |
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regarding optimized -- my semi-educated guess is that IA has various layers of caching in place for the JSON /metadata/, and fewer (or at least less specialized) caches for the direct download of the XML. |
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xmc |
regarding system load -- IA wants you to do the reasonable thing. if they have a problem that's their fault, they'll work on it. |
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JesseW |
(ah, that wording makes much more sense (at least to me) |
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joepie91 |
) |
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joepie91 |
:P |
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JesseW |
thanks. I can always count on archiveteam people to help close my parens. |
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joepie91 |
thatt was the secondary mission of archiveteam, wasn't it? |
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joepie91 |
closing the world's parens, after saving the world's heritage |
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vitzli |
is there some secret lisp conspiracy around? |
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(cdr 'secret-list-conspiracy) |
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please do not upload files large than 8 EiB to IA or you will break my database |
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badcheese's as well |
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kyan |
Ugh, twitter. Click on a tweet while scrolling through home page. Saw an interesting tweet below the one I clicked on, while the one I clicked on is loading. Click back button. Now the tweets are in a different order. #WTF #UX |
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yeah, and the horrible habit of *SOMETIMES* loading things in the same window, and sometimes not |
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JesseW |
er, welcome? |
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what troll zone? |
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ersi |
Jeez |
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I should be sleeping... |
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bzc6p |
So this is the last message from my Fujitsu-Siemens Amilo A1650G laptop that has been my true companion in my archiving efforts in the last two years. Farewell old friend. |
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HCross2 |
Goodbye old laptop |
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zenguy |
how would i go about archiving a vbullitin site? |
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check wiki |
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[17:54] <joepie91> DID YOU KNOW: the Python SSL library does not check hostnames by default, because the maintainer claims that it's basically "too hard to do" and then tells application developers to implement it themselves |
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[17:54] <joepie91> ref https://bugs.python.org/issue1589 |
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godane |
so i'm close to 629k now |
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godane |
i'm at 628,992 currently |
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godane |
now at 629,002 |
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SketchCo1 |
Newsgrabber grabbed the attention of the wayback manager again. It was hil-arious |
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oops |
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HCross |
Do we need to do anything to keep him quiet? |
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SketchCow |
No, no. Keep doing what you're doing. |
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Will do. :) |
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HCross |
We are on track to cross the 10TB of news mark soon |
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that was fast! |
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Arkiver2: |
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SketchCow |
376G GOOGLECODE |
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SketchCow |
243G TELENOR |
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ersi |
xmc: You just wait! |
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xmc sits tight |
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ersi |
More's comin |
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xmc |
news is coming. |
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ersi |
Stay classy, newsbuddy |
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SketchCow |
The chat with the web archiving guy was about what we're doing, and how it's going, vs. GDELT |
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SketchCow |
He let me know, by the way, that Archive Team is a significant portion of Internet Archive's web archiving now. |
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HCross |
That is very nice to hear |
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SketchCow |
Like, 20% |
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damn |
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okay then! |
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Fucking T! |
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wait, was telenor uploaded to the IA? |
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no, I mean home.online.no, telenor-grab stuff |
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FYI: https://github.com/pugjs/jade/issues/2184#issuecomment-175763098 |
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Shoving in telenor. |
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SketchCow |
It was uploaded to FOS. It was not into the archive until right this moment. That 260gb is now going in. |
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awesome, glad it got home |
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https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CQ_0PzvWUAA2x7W.jpg:large |
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