#archiveteam-bs 2016-02-18,Thu

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00:00 πŸ”— Sk1d http://www.engadget.com/2016/02/16/5d-discs-can-store-data-until-well-after-the-sun-burns-out/ 360 tb per disk seems intressting
00:03 πŸ”— snape 360TB per disk seems like it'd take rather a while to FSCK, but that's just me
00:04 πŸ”— SketchCow I can't find ANYTHING on throughput
00:11 πŸ”— joepie91 now you can lose 360TB of data all at once!
00:19 πŸ”— godane it would have to be about 150 to 300gb per a second
00:19 πŸ”— godane to be close to the speed cds had
00:20 πŸ”— godane maybe 1x can be as low as 50 to 60gb a second
00:20 πŸ”— godane but not much slower then that
00:21 πŸ”— godane btw CD is 150kb/s on 1x storage is 650mb/700mb per a disc
00:23 πŸ”— snape I can't even get blu-rays to burn at 1MB/sec under Linux, FFS. One I started at "4x" seven hours ago is plodding along at 899KB/sec, sigh. I think it would literally take a lifetime to burn 360TB at that speed.
00:25 πŸ”— godane http://www.engadget.com/2016/02/17/fandango-buys-rotten-tomatoes-flixster/
00:26 πŸ”— Fletcher 12 years for that snape :P
00:28 πŸ”— snape Wow, is that all? Huh. Now if the computer industry can once again make a PSU that lasts that long...
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01:27 πŸ”— godane so IA is not taking my files now
01:29 πŸ”— godane or at least rejecting files i'm giving it at random
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01:51 πŸ”— espes___ blip.tv grab wasn't nearly complete :/
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03:05 πŸ”— dashcloud espes___: unfortunately, there were at least two blip mass-closure events- the first time when they re-focused, and asked the people who weren't regularly putting up videos to leave, and then when blip closed
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04:44 πŸ”— JesseW https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Sp0DqARvjwY -- Helicopter, air saw trimming trees
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09:48 πŸ”— ersi http://www.southampton.ac.uk/news/2016/02/5d-data-storage-update.page
09:48 πŸ”— ersi tha fucking woot
09:48 πŸ”— ersi "360 TB/disc data capacity, thermal stability up to 1,000Β°C "
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10:02 πŸ”— midas just think about that, 360TB per disk, disks seem to be the size of a quarter, one roll of these disks would be 14PB of data
10:03 πŸ”— ersi I'm slightly turned on at the thought
10:04 πŸ”— midas no idea what it costs per disk, but stable storage and just ship it around the world
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10:05 πŸ”— midas piggybank at a couple of people and just send updated data in a envelope and add it to your piggybank
10:05 πŸ”— ersi I'd store them in a fire
10:05 πŸ”— ersi so called, hot data
10:06 πŸ”— midas i'd freeze them, cold storage.
10:07 πŸ”— midas virtually unlimited lifetime at room temperature (13.8 billion years at 190Β°C
10:07 πŸ”— midas my room isnt 190 degrees :<
10:07 πŸ”— midas seems to be a bit, hot
10:07 πŸ”— ersi We could fix that
10:08 πŸ”— midas not sure if i can keep it at 190 degrees for 13.8 billion years tho, that's one hell of a heating bill
10:08 πŸ”— ersi for sure
10:08 πŸ”— ersi Maybe if the fire can be fueled by irony and sarcasm
10:08 πŸ”— ersi then I could keep it going for a while
10:08 πŸ”— midas that would be perfect
10:08 πŸ”— midas we have enough of that laying around anyway
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10:09 πŸ”— ersi And it's re-newable!
10:09 πŸ”— midas no waste products that we cant hide
10:10 πŸ”— midas mostly broken dreams
10:17 πŸ”— HCross2 ersi: fuel it on butthurt
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15:38 πŸ”— snape Sarcasm is such an abundant natural resource it's given away free every day to millions of well-deserving souls. I do slightly worry that finding a way to convert sarcasm into motive power could have disastrous far-reaching consequences, as surly teenagers are forced to confront the tragic awkwardness of having accidentally become productive members of society. There are always more where they came from though, I suppose. :/
15:40 πŸ”— midas when will Tesla start updating the model S to sarcasm mode?
15:40 πŸ”— Muad-Dib <ersi> http://www.southampton.ac.uk/news/2016/02/5d-data-storage-update.page
15:41 πŸ”— Muad-Dib looks like someone finally did proper crystal storage
15:41 πŸ”— Muad-Dib noice
15:41 πŸ”— vitzli bandwidth - not so much
15:41 πŸ”— vitzli on reddit somebody said about ~75 kB/s
15:42 πŸ”— Muad-Dib speed isn't the purpose of this medium, anyway
15:42 πŸ”— Muad-Dib but it's still slow ofc
15:44 πŸ”— snape midas, first science has to tackle fundamental principles of development like how to properly quantize, store, and tax sarcasm...
15:44 πŸ”— Muad-Dib I have wondered for a long time how feasible it would be, crystal or engraved metals for storing data
15:44 πŸ”— Muad-Dib digital data*
15:44 πŸ”— vitzli 1 unit of sarcasm - 1 Ba
15:44 πŸ”— Muad-Dib 1 Meh
15:45 πŸ”— vitzli Ba for Blackadder
15:45 πŸ”— Muad-Dib 1 Sure
15:45 πŸ”— Muad-Dib hahaha
15:47 πŸ”— snape I'd think it would be the Snark, myself.
15:47 πŸ”— vitzli Long Now Foundation has microtext-engraved metal-something plate
15:49 πŸ”— SmileyG mBa
15:49 πŸ”— snape The Millenniata M-Discs are apparently something akin to engraved crystal, or at least glass.
15:49 πŸ”— SmileyG miBa
15:49 πŸ”— SmileyG hmmm
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15:51 πŸ”— snape Problem with the Blackadder is surely the abbreviation should be "Bl". "Ba" looks like it should be called the "Baldrick".
15:51 πŸ”— snape ...which is perhaps an appropriate name for a unit of measure of cunning, or something.
15:56 πŸ”— midas snape: thats easy, we store them in the tears of broken dreams, thats how it works
16:00 πŸ”— snape Maybe we already are. Maybe those torturous "talent" shows like The Voice are a part of the bitter-tears-of-broken-dreams harvesting programme...
16:07 πŸ”— midas nah, thats just the cringe harvesting system
16:10 πŸ”— snape Suppose it's more humane than forcing people to watch Wayans Brothers movies, like they did it in the old days.
16:20 πŸ”— midas this cat knows http://imgur.com/gallery/iwZ8IKX
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16:39 πŸ”— vitzli http://www.dailytech.com/Scientists+Create+360+TB+Superman+Crystal+Discs/article31933.htm article on 360 TB discs from 2013, last names are the same and Univ. of Southampton
16:39 πŸ”— vitzli and, well, russia today, but from 2013 too : https://www.rt.com/news/5d-nanostructured-glass-optical-memory-941/
16:42 πŸ”— vitzli and the quotes on www.southampton.ac.uk and dailytech.com are the same, "It is thrilling to think that we have created the first document whichοΏ½"
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20:01 πŸ”— SimpBrain oh god http://retro.andro.io/cat-22-social
20:04 πŸ”— snape http://cocoaobjects.com/cocoaobjects-is-closing-down/
20:07 πŸ”— SimpBrain looks like a bot job
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21:34 πŸ”— ivan` HCross: I'm around, briefly
21:35 πŸ”— SketchCow https://archive.org/details/softwarelibrary_msdos_zzt is almost done getting screenshots. What a bonanza!
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21:40 πŸ”— snape oh man, the nostalgia. I have fond memories of playing ZZT for like twelve hours on a snow day in junior high, eventually giving myself severe motion sickness...
21:43 πŸ”— HCross ivan`, weve got a case of grab-site doing strangeness under high load
21:45 πŸ”— HCross and also it seems to get the same URL repeatably sometimes
21:48 πŸ”— HCross https://github.com/ludios/grab-site/issues/52 im referring troo
21:48 πŸ”— HCross oto
21:48 πŸ”— HCross too
21:53 πŸ”— joepie91 to*
21:53 πŸ”— joepie91 :P
21:53 πŸ”— MrRadar 2 ???
21:54 πŸ”— HCross I cant type tonight
21:58 πŸ”— joepie91 can't*
21:58 πŸ”— * joepie91 runs
21:58 πŸ”— HCross haha
21:58 πŸ”— snape Et tu? :)
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22:03 πŸ”— ivan` HCross: yeah that one is hard. it's probably sqlite, sqlalchemy, or python3 itself
22:03 πŸ”— joepie91 heh
22:03 πŸ”— joepie91 "it's probably any one of the dependencies we use"
22:03 πŸ”— joepie91 :P
22:04 πŸ”— ivan` need a time-reversible debugger & a semi-reproducible scenario where I run 100 grab-sites at once or something
22:04 πŸ”— joepie91 software dev in a nutshell
22:04 πŸ”— ivan` HCross: getting the same URL repeatedly is expected if pages redirect to it
22:06 πŸ”— ivan` not wanting to deal with these kinds of bugs that are almost impossible to track down is why I'm learning Rust
22:06 πŸ”— ivan` though I guess it would be useful to learn how to track them down as well
22:07 πŸ”— ivan` the problem is that the heap corruption happens some time before the actual crash
22:07 πŸ”— HCross Ah ok. NewsBuddy suddenly thought that doing 40 crawls over 8 cores was a good idea
22:09 πŸ”— HCross and half of them were videos
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22:57 πŸ”— DFJustin should that be expected though, I know it does retrieve urls twice if there's a redirect but what is the point
23:11 πŸ”— joepie91 https://twitter.com/joepie91/status/700457005899763712
23:11 πŸ”— joepie91 ^ kills Wired's ad-blocker wall
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23:54 πŸ”— JW_work Hm. How much of slashdot has been archived in the Wayback Machine? As much of a cesspool is it may be nowadays, it has valuable history that should be grabbed, IMO...
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