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No, it is not possible to give FOS "a bit of a kick" |
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SketchCow |
Also, a special place in hell for the team members who are opening large parallel rsync streams and wondering why it's not working |
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FalconK |
is it currently disk-bound? |
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FalconK |
because I can't imagine people have ~500 concurrent rsync streams into it |
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dxrt |
The irony... https://twitter.com/aaronpk/status/688518372170977280 |
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FalconK |
slack does something like that |
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JesseW |
chfoo -- There is now a copy of pywb-ia running on http://archivelab.org:3579/ -- so rather than running your own, you could just add links to that from the viewer. I'll see about making such a PR soon. |
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Fletcher |
dxrt, if you're having problems holding pipeline data I should be able to take some of it off your hands |
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dxrt |
Fletcher: I'm doing OK at the moment, but I'l let you know. Thanks! |
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chfoo |
JesseW: ok, sounds good |
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FalconK |
so architecturally, what does FOS ultimately do with the WARCs? |
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MrRadar |
It combines them together into "megawarcs" and then uploads them to the IA |
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MrRadar |
It's apparently on a network with a very solid route to them |
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FalconK |
I wonder if a sufficiently provisioned and active pipeline could bypass it |
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SketchCow |
All so adorable. |
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SketchCow |
What I need to do when I'm onsite in about 2 weeks is talk about a FOS replacement. |
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SketchCow |
FOS is a virtual box running on a shared resource. It was never meant for this. |
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SketchCow |
19:54 < FalconK> because I can't imagine people have ~500 concurrent rsync streams into it |
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SketchCow |
No, they really fucking do |
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FalconK |
brutal! |
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MrRadar |
With a workload like that it's amazing it runs as well as it does |
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FalconK |
I guess if it is on site at IA the architecture makes a lot more sense |
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FalconK |
on the other hand my crawler has as much provisioned bandwidth as FOS |
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bsmith093 |
Jessw, any updates on the repack of the fanfic grab? |
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bsmith093 |
JesseW: any updates on the repack of the fanfic grab? |
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JesseW |
bsmith093: still waiting on reply from people at IA about uploading the census data. |
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JesseW |
I should maybe ask one of the other people with accounts at FOS if they'd like to upload it -- I could do it myself, but I don't want my name permanently connected to it, to avoid random angry people emailing me years later because they are angry about something on IA. |
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Fletcher |
how large is it? |
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phuzion |
SketchCow: did you see my question from earlier? Is FOS CPU bound right now or disk? If it's CPU bound, could we try lowering the rsync compression levels and see if that does anything? |
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phuzion |
Even if only as a temporary measure to get FOS a little healthier until a real replacement can be procured |
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SketchCow |
It's not CPU bound |
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SketchCow |
And no, don't lower the compression levels. |
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phuzion |
it's a moot point anyways, but the compression levels I was talking about were not related to the data on disk, but instead the compression levels used in transit. Currently, it looks like --compress-level=9 is what is in use, which is very CPU-intensive. |
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JesseW |
Fletcher: how large are the census files to be uploaded to IA? 20G |
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JesseW |
and they are already on FOS |
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JesseW |
I just don't want to delete my working files (which are rather larger, because uncompressed and duplicative) until I've got the results up to IA. |
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godane |
https://archive.org/details/Secrets_of_The_Unknown_The_Titanic_1987_VHSRip |
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pikhq |
phuzion: It's rather a lot worse for the sending end than receiving end, though. |
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godane |
https://archive.org/details/Tackling_Football_A_Womans_Guide_to_Watching_the_Game_1986_VHSRip |
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phuzion |
pikhq: Yes, the sending end gets the worst of it, but when the receiving end is one machine doing 500 simultaneous decompress operations, it's gonna get beat up pretty bad too. |
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godane |
https://archive.org/details/Cirque_Du_Soleil_Presents_Inside_La_Nouba_2000_VHSRip |
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midas |
ok, just found 21GB of comcast data on my box |
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vitzli |
SketchCow, thank you for putting the images into collection! |
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HCross |
Right. This CDN im downloading from has some strange stuff on it, like http://c1.glitch.bz/wp-uploads/main/2010/11/The_Rube_Song_1290596637.mp3 |
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HCross |
SketchCow, a lot of data from the UK National Archive, and the UK government is going to be coming your way eventually |
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ErkDog |
oops |
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ErkDog |
soz @midas |
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midas |
we try to keep #archiveteam clean so when someone comes in just to scream HEY SHIT IS ON FIRE AT ... we can find it again and start working on it, thats why we have -bs ;-) |
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SketchCow |
Good to know. |
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SketchCow |
I was up until a ridiculous time last night writing something that yanks pages out of an item (magazines) on archive. |
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midas |
worked? |
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godane |
SketchCow: march 2010 of kpfa is going up |
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SketchCow |
Thank you. |
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SketchCow |
The script worked fine, and it enabled me to do the work relatively easily, which is good, because Harlan Ellison Is Coming |
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arkiver |
How do you mean it yanks out pages? |
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SketchCow |
But it was still SOMEWHAT tedious, even if the script is doing a ton of heavy lifting. |
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arkiver |
As in extract articles? |
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SketchCow |
It makes a dupe object, darks the old one, and then I pull out individual jp2s in it |
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SketchCow |
So we get the magazine without the objected-to articles. |
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SketchCow |
Instead of a straight darking. |
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ErkDog |
@SketchCow you are Jeff/Textfiles right? :-D |
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arkiver |
Oh, that's nice |
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SketchCow |
Who. the fuck. is Jeff |
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ErkDog |
>_> <_< |
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ErkDog |
Jason |
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ErkDog |
sorry doing lots of things |
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arkiver |
So what is being done with the pages that are pulled out? |
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SketchCow |
Do less things. |
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SketchCow |
arkiver: I delete them |
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SketchCow |
Again, dupe object. I create itemid_modified and dark itemid |
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SketchCow |
And mark it as modified and list what was modified. |
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arkiver |
I see |
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Fletcher sets mode: +o Fletcher_ |
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arkiver |
So original is also kept |
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arkiver |
Nice project! |
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SketchCow |
Oh yeah. |
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ErkDog |
so then, you are Jason/TextFiles? :-D |
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midas |
im just calling it right now, dec-99. |
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ErkDog |
and ohhhh how I missed IRC |
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arkiver |
Are you dec3199? |
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midas |
i dont think he is, im just saying the same thing might happen |
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arkiver |
ok, nvm |
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SketchCow |
You guys should make a betting pool/deadpool channel |
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SketchCow |
(And don't tell me about it) |
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SketchCow |
Be sure to add odds-modifiers like "is on new diet" "got into unreasonable twitter battle" |
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SketchCow |
Unless.... you already have.... |
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ErkDog |
well if you -are- Jason, textfiles.com is pretty cool, I especially liked the text file about how to "rob" the bank by changing writing in your withdrawl book, lol |
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ErkDog |
soooo old |
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ErkDog |
but that's the point |
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SketchCow |
Noted. |
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vitzli |
PurpleSym, "Site remains online so long as at least 1 peer serving it" |
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vitzli cries - so many 0s/0l torrents |
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PurpleSym |
Sure, but centralized isn’t much better in that regard. |
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PurpleSym |
I guess everyone builds his own P2P website protocol nowadays. |
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PurpleSym |
ErkDog: Labels itself the “permanent web”, see http://ipfs.io/ |
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midas |
SketchCow: piratepad with bets, no we wont give you the url |
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midas |
;-) |
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vitzli |
not just own p2p proto, ipfs has its own storage, *sob* |
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SketchCow |
Good solution |
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SketchCow |
Occasionally they surprise you. |
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SketchCow |
Usually they don't. |
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SketchCow |
IPFS guy and I are buddies. |
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SketchCow |
He was at that Google meeting I was at with brewster and vint cerf. |
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arkiver would love to be at such a meeting |
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MrRadar |
I generally take a dim view of cryptocurrencies, but IPFS is a genuniely cool bit of tech built on top of them |
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MrRadar |
(In terms of how it uses a cryptocurrency incentivize people to store data for the IPFS network) |
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SimpBrain: are you still doing the livejournal discovery? |
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MrRadar: AFAIK, the cryptocurrency part is just in planning at this point, I think? |
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MrRadar |
It has been a while since I looked at it |
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schbirid |
lol bitcoin |
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MrRadar |
The key difference between IPFS's (proposed?) crypto and Bitcoin is that Bitcoin incentivizes useless busywork whereas IPFS's incentivizes people to store data for IPFS which is not useless |
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vitzli |
SketchCow, 'free' as in 'here is where you can download it' or free as in 'CC/GPL/Public domain'? |
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MrRadar: BUT WHATS IPFSSSS BUSINESS MODEL??? |
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1 server got banned, the other 3 are churning out the profiles about 1-1.5secs each hit |
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the script randomly dies due to reset by peer and a few other errors |
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so during those spells, i rename the txt files and upload them to github |
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ErkDog |
thanks PurpleSym |
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IPFS is craaazy |
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MrRadar |
!igset d51o6r27tk48yxiypvd5jl1pu blogs |
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MrRadar |
!igset d51o6r27tk48yxiypvd5jl1pu blog |
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phuzion |
MrRadar: wrong channel |
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MrRadar |
I know |
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