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[02:28] *** bsmith093 has joined #archiveteam-bs [02:44] *** Mayonaise has joined #archiveteam-bs [03:03] how am I going to work the panama leaks into that palindrome now [03:03] corruption ruins everything [03:05] *** dxrt- has joined #archiveteam-bs [03:28] *** yakfish has joined #archiveteam-bs [03:28] *** SadDM has joined #archiveteam-bs [03:28] *** swebb sets mode: +o SadDM [03:28] *** matthusb- has joined #archiveteam-bs [03:30] *** jspiros has joined #archiveteam-bs [04:11] *** Sk1d has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 250 seconds) [04:18] *** Sk1d has joined #archiveteam-bs [04:53] *** BlueMaxim has joined #archiveteam-bs [05:20] *** BlueMaxim has quit IRC (Read error: Operation timed out) [05:23] *** BlueMaxim has joined #archiveteam-bs [05:59] *** bentpins has joined #archiveteam-bs [06:15] *** Honno has joined #archiveteam-bs [06:23] *** BlueMaxim has quit IRC (Quit: Leaving) [07:13] *** dan-- has joined #archiveteam-bs [07:15] *** dan- has quit IRC (Read error: Operation timed out) [07:21] *** metalcamp has joined #archiveteam-bs [07:28] *** metalcamp has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 244 seconds) [07:44] *** schbirid has joined #archiveteam-bs [07:45] *** Start has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 260 seconds) [08:30] *** JesseW has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 370 seconds) [08:32] *** metalcamp has joined #archiveteam-bs [08:37] *** godane has quit IRC (Read error: Operation timed out) [08:58] hey, anyone here able to give me some advice about warrior scripting? I want to pass information to the wpull hook script from the pipeline.py [08:59] so i could match /foo//, and reject any other values for that (To ensure i only download things once, the items link to other items) [09:29] *** metalcamp has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 244 seconds) [09:33] *** metalcamp has joined #archiveteam-bs [09:53] *** bwn has quit IRC (Read error: Operation timed out) [10:01] *** bwn has joined #archiveteam-bs [10:15] *** SadDM has quit IRC (Read error: Operation timed out) [10:15] *** matthusb- has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 246 seconds) [10:16] *** yakfish has quit IRC (Read error: Operation timed out) [10:16] *** bwn_ has joined #archiveteam-bs [10:16] *** jspiros has quit IRC (Read error: Operation timed out) [10:17] *** bwn has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 246 seconds) [10:20] *** achip has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 258 seconds) [10:20] *** wyatt8740 has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 258 seconds) [10:20] *** schbirid has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 258 seconds) [10:21] *** bentpins has quit IRC (Read error: Operation timed out) [10:21] *** achip has joined #archiveteam-bs [10:22] *** metalcamp has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 244 seconds) [10:23] *** schbirid has joined #archiveteam-bs [10:26] *** wyatt8740 has joined #archiveteam-bs [10:36] *** Boppen has joined #archiveteam-bs [10:42] *** metalcamp has joined #archiveteam-bs [11:39] Ihttps://github.com/danielquinn/paperless holy shit this is everything i've ever wanted in a document scanning tool [11:40] https://github.com/danielquinn/paperless even [11:40] *** VADemon has joined #archiveteam-bs [11:53] *** kurt has joined #archiveteam-bs [12:03] *** metalcamp has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 244 seconds) [12:52] *** Start has joined #archiveteam-bs [12:56] *** vitzli has joined #archiveteam-bs [13:39] *** godane has joined #archiveteam-bs [14:08] *** Start has quit IRC (Quit: Disconnected.) [14:12] *** metalcamp has joined #archiveteam-bs [14:15] *** VADemon has quit IRC (Quit: left4dead) [14:16] *** VADemon has joined #archiveteam-bs [14:39] *** VADemon has quit IRC (Quit: left4dead) [14:40] *** VADemon has joined #archiveteam-bs [14:54] *** Start has joined #archiveteam-bs [14:55] ersi, does it work for you right now? [14:56] Oh, no.. I need to log on :/ [14:56] wtf, fucking assholes [14:57] If they're trying to be annoying as fuck, then they're pretty good at it [14:57] their web player on mobile is infuriating as well.. If you pause, you get a retarded overlay with DERPDERP U NO OR MOBILE APPZ IS GREATS YES? which is hard to close :/ [15:00] then it's not ublock's fault :( [15:11] *** metalcamp has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 244 seconds) [15:12] *** metalcamp has joined #archiveteam-bs [15:15] *** vitzli has quit IRC (Quit: Leaving) [15:44] Oh yeah, I got uBlock activated. I'll see if it makes a differance [15:45] Nope, no difference [15:45] Oh! Now I know [15:46] If I'm on soundcloud.com/ then I need to login to download [15:46] If I'm on some other page, with the embedded web player and click download - I can download without logging in [15:52] That's stupid [15:53] Soundcloud why you stupid [15:55] because.. clouds [16:04] *** Start_ has joined #archiveteam-bs [16:05] *** Start has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 260 seconds) [16:06] *** Start_ has quit IRC (Client Quit) [16:09] *** tomwsmf-a has joined #archiveteam-bs [16:11] soundclown [16:18] *** metalcamp has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 244 seconds) [16:24] https://github.com/DocNow/code-of-conduct [16:24] So, I'm fascinated because I'm not 100% sure I can thrive under such a code. [16:26] *** tomwsmf-a has quit IRC (Read error: Operation timed out) [16:27] SketchCow: Can we adopt the WTFPL as our CoC for ArchiveTeam? [16:27] I hate that redicilous idiotic crap of a retard piece of codes [16:27] (Bam, I'm banned!) [16:28] But only for misspelling ridiculous [16:28] Things that can be harassment: [16:28] * Anything [16:29] Ohohoho, the response team won't act on: * Reverse-isms [16:29] >"Documenting the Now prioritizes marginalized people’s safety over privileged people’s comfort." [16:29] what a bunch of cunts [16:29] if I make a new psudonym can I claim to be one of these marginalized people instead of the priveleged cis white male I am? [16:30] If you're trying to be fucking inclusive, don't be exclusive while pretending to be inclusive [16:30] *** JesseW has joined #archiveteam-bs [16:30] SketchCow: Why are you going to this? :) [16:31] It's a Slack. [16:31] SketchCow: how about in comparison to e.g. http://contributor-covenant.org/version/1/4/ ? [16:31] It's not a conference. [16:31] oh [16:32] i mean, i don't see you running afoul of any of these rules ... ? [16:32] I'd still flip that the bird tho', with that kind of CoC (Heheheh cock) [16:33] but maybe that's because i know what kind of person you are [16:33] idk [16:33] I don't see me running afoul of ALL of them, of course. [16:33] At once. [16:33] In one post. [16:33] Heh heh heh [16:33] * SketchCow cracks knuckles [16:33] Sounds like a challenge [16:33] lol [16:34] No, so it's interesting. It's like someone is doing some good work on architecture. So they're using good materials. And they want the materials to not be stolen. And they want them to be worked on by compensated workers. [16:34] And then you can see where they started doing the things in the GPL where, hey, we're here and we're making contract, so let's keep going. [16:34] And going. [16:34] [12:33:27] <@ersi> Sounds like a challenge [16:34] CoCs are for people like that, who consider them a challenge :) [16:35] Like, in the attempt to get rid of a gamergate situation, they have put that timebomb of "we will not accept a group who is in our opinion privileged from using this code of conduct" [16:35] Theory being that you can fend for yourself. [16:35] My opinion is this leads to the obvious. [16:35] Back channels. [16:36] Whitey has been doing back channels for a millenia. [16:36] And that's how you can be sure everything being said and typed is in the most elegant, proper tea-cake style while there's a muffled stabbing in the night. [16:37] It's just very hard to regulate human behavior. [16:38] especially with rules [16:38] Then you'll get whiney people about not being let into the freer (back) channels where the action is and then you'll get a CoC for your back channel and everyone who isn't retarded moves away [16:38] No, the back channel never gets a CoC, that's why it's a back channel. [16:38] It's easier to regulate your own behaviour. If you're upset about people being dicks (or cunts, or whatever the non-genderers have) - it's far easier to just.. not get upset [16:39] well, depends on where you want it to go and if people get to know about it [16:39] You're confusing "back channel" with "alternative communication" [16:39] Hmmm [16:39] Yes, I am [16:40] back channel is a safe place for some people in an org to complain about the rest of them [16:40] a given org may have many [16:40] informal, by friends [16:40] or fellow schemers [16:40] >:) [16:40] wait, what [16:40] * ersi whistles and moves slowly to the back [16:44] there's always specifics you can nitpick but most of this seems like "don't be a dickbag" and experience shows there are people who need that kind of thing in writing [16:45] that's my take too [16:46] Oh, a huge amount of it is the no-dickbag rule [16:47] Which we have more of a no-sustained-dickbag rule [16:47] And I think, obviously, this linked code of conduct is full of reasonable things [16:48] But it's couched in such a angry, bitter wrapping, language which, while I totally get what got to that point, defeats an ultimate purpose of making your community thrive. [16:49] i feel like soundcloud would be a perfect target for some distributed filesystem [16:50] Stop shaming soundcloud [16:50] never [16:50] Anyway, was just thinking this over. I'm obviously fascinated with how human beings deal with being human beings [16:51] it's humyn! please! [16:51] So, I'm going to move "archiveteam" collection under "web crawls" [16:51] No.... wait, it's already there [16:51] wasn't it already there? [16:51] https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=11427820 [16:51] right [16:51] Sorry, I'm being pushed to clean up our presence [16:53] don't shove CoCs down people's throats [16:53] I have 164 items that call itself something archiveteam, with a web setting, and are not. [16:54] mostly dec3199 probably [16:55] I'm not being clear [16:55] I have 164 items that call itself something archiveteam, with a web setting, and are not in an archiveteam collection [16:55] So I'm jamming through those. [16:55] Then, if anyone is so inspired, it'd be great to find any remaining archiveteam-initiated web crawls that do NOT have the web setting [16:57] http://pastebin.com/8pYuMj57 is the full list of collections [16:57] I should rename/rebrand for easier finding going forward. [16:57] Are you also going to create collections for items that are in 'archiveteam', while they could have their own collection? [16:58] *** JesseW has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 370 seconds) [16:58] I'd like a list of candidates for that. [16:58] Ok, I'll get some tomorrow [16:58] Some of these are derived, some not, and only some are in archiveteam https://archive.org/search.php?query=Dutch%20news%20website%20screenshots [16:59] Can you please derive and move them? [16:59] Yeah, the hell are those. [17:00] So, there's a great example of why they may never be derived. (But I'll try anyway.) [17:00] 14,000 files in one item! [17:00] That shouldn't be too much of a problem I think [17:00] some are derived [17:00] and they play well in the wayback machine [17:00] I can tell you. It's a problem. [17:01] I'm on the inside over here. It's a problem. [17:01] A lot of "oh it just works" is "oh it just has hank make it work" [17:01] they're uploaded by archiveteam-dutchnews@archiveteam.org btw [17:01] I see [17:01] maybe midas or joepie91 knows something of them [17:02] Well, first, I've initiated a switchover of all 50 to "archiveteam" [17:04] Thanks [17:04] I've now initiated a none-derive to all 50 [17:05] (Derive if you never derived, but don't overwrite other derives) [17:05] Ok [17:08] Also, I need coordination on this [17:08] I have some redrows of about a half-dozen items in archivebot collection that never got finished or added. [17:08] The reason being because of a broke-ass warc in the midst. [17:09] So, I'm thinking, in #archivebot, I'm going to drop what these were, and people can track them down and resubmit [17:09] OK? [17:09] Maybe we can keep the broken WARCs in an item specially for broken WARCs [17:09] So we can fix them somewhere in the future [17:10] I can make a broke-ass warc directory [17:10] Won't put it on archive.org because... it breaks [17:10] *** JW_work1 has joined #archiveteam-bs [17:10] brokeasswarcs.zip [17:11] Ok [17:11] *** Honno has quit IRC (Read error: Connection reset by peer) [17:12] *** JW_work has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 370 seconds) [17:14] I'm on it, it's a little slow. [17:14] https://catalogd.archive.org/log/446612310 [17:14] Here's one exploding if you want to see it go. [17:20] gzip: urls-raw.githubusercontent.com-instacastcloud.com-inf-20150616-174722-cutxs-00017.warc.gz: not in gzip format [17:28] First 50 MB of that file is just zeroes. [17:33] *** Honno has joined #archiveteam-bs [17:34] that's my fetish [17:45] what's your 0 face, ersi? [17:45] :0 [17:46] 0_0 [17:46] That's going down fast https://archive.org/~tracey/stats/df.html [17:46] IA is saving something big [17:47] Flickr? [17:47] :0 [17:47] arkiver: it's all our news [17:48] they're saving 1.1 PB of Flickr? [17:48] * ersi pats newsbuddy [17:48] SketchCow: I'm not sure if that's Flickr. But a general question regarding Flickr. In what format are those pictues saved? [17:52] arkiver: they're doing some maintenance i think https://archive.org/~tracey/stats/g479524279.html [17:52] that looks like removing smaller disks from the cluster? [18:18] *** Start has joined #archiveteam-bs [18:33] You're all so adorable [18:33] :3 [18:33] * Kazzy blushes [18:34] You're just saying that to make us fork over data [18:34] Trying to get into our harddrives [18:34] I know one thing is we're doing a full to-be-offline backup of the archive [18:34] I've not yet been given contact with Flickr guy [18:35] re: a full offline backup — that's WONDERFUL to hear. [18:35] wuh woh, now you've got him all excited [18:35] I have been worried about that. [18:39] Having a full offline backup at least deals with the compromised-credentials-do-a-massive-deletion-spree problem. [18:39] anyone got a nice bash snippet to turn a random URL into a linux friendly filename? [18:40] *** metalcamp has joined #archiveteam-bs [18:40] Or basically if the entire IA catches cryptolocker [18:42] HCross: which would both entertain me and sadden me [18:43] HCross: yes, comes to the same thing [18:45] HCross: That would have to be some seriously specialized cryptolocker [18:46] Wait, two questions. a.) do new variants of Cryptolocker attack NFS shares? And b.) Does IA run NFS shares internally? [18:46] it hits anything the user has access too [18:47] I' [18:47] Now we're heading into "cute" territory [18:57] *** Stilett0 has joined #archiveteam-bs [18:59] *** Stiletto has quit IRC (Read error: Operation timed out) [18:59] *** Stilett0 is now known as Stiletto [19:04] JW_work1: cept you can't delete at IA [19:04] it's impossibru. [19:04] [18:30] If you're trying to be fucking inclusive, don't be exclusive while pretending to be inclusive [19:04] is SJW-land leaking into archiving-land? [19:06] also, DFJustin, I've found that the only written version of "don't be a dick" that actually works is "don't be a dick" literally as such [19:06] is old-land leaking into old? [19:06] anything beyond that and you just end up in rule-lawyering territory [19:06] please don't continue on this shit [19:06] just reading and responding to backlog... [19:07] * ersi barfs [19:09] please don't barf unannounced in a public chat room [19:10] Smiley: oh yes you can. [19:10] Smiley: any uploader (or staff member) can delete (or simply overwrite) *any* file they have access to [19:11] Uploaders can't (I think) switch an *identifier* back to unused — but they can certainly change the *contents* of that identifier. [19:12] i once found a bug where i could overwrite any file in any item, got a nice jacket as thank you :) [19:12] schbirid: pictures (of the jacket) or it didn't happen. :-P [19:15] wow i suck at selfies [19:23] JW_work1: that took way too long, fucking android http://i.imgur.com/3qRIoao.jpg [19:23] :x [19:24] unfortunately it is fit for fat americans so i never wear it :( [19:27] sup jacket buddy http://interbutt.com/temp/B612_20160225_090740.jpg [19:27] #blameMurica? I mean sometimes it's really the best choice to print a t-shirt/hoodie locally and donate instead [19:28] DFJustin: o/ [19:33] Anyone up for adding some more sites to our newsgrabber? If everyone in here added at least 1 site, we would be very close to 1000 sites in total [19:38] *** bwn_ has quit IRC (Read error: Operation timed out) [19:44] *** Start has quit IRC (Quit: Disconnected.) [19:47] lol — nice jacket collections [19:49] *** Start has joined #archiveteam-bs [19:50] no jacket actually but i have no idea what they are called... [19:50] fleece? [19:50] yes [19:51] hey vern, it's ernest.. we don't want to overload the site we're archiving, knowwhatimean? [19:56] sweatshirt [20:05] So, predictively, I've gone ahead and cleaned up all the redrows that my first admin account has, and a few are going to take forever (the dutch pages) [20:09] *** bwn_ has joined #archiveteam-bs [20:14] *** VADemon has quit IRC (Quit: left4dead) [20:26] OK, back to the others. [20:30] *** schbirid has quit IRC (Quit: Leaving) [20:34] *** Honno has quit IRC (Read error: Operation timed out) [20:36] *** bsmith094 has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection) [20:37] *** bsmith094 has joined #archiveteam-bs [20:40] *** bwn_ is now known as bwn [20:44] OK, all the weird ones are out of odd places. 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