#archiveteam-bs 2016-04-26,Tue

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00:06 πŸ”— arkiver nice!
00:11 πŸ”— joepie91 https://twitter.com/bradheath/status/724727534361911296
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01:38 πŸ”— useretail hey guys, just upgraded ia to 1.0.2 i noticed that syntax changed, but surprisingly some rules too: looks like i can't use dot anymore. any ideas why?
01:38 πŸ”— useretail <identifier> should be between 3 and 80 characters in length, and can only contain alphanumeric characters, underscores ( _ ), or dashes ( - )
01:39 πŸ”— xmc a.o doesn't like dots
01:39 πŸ”— useretail not sure is thats a bug or a feature...
01:39 πŸ”— xmc they can accomodate anything but would rather not
01:41 πŸ”— useretail hmmm looks like archive.org doesn't work properly yet
01:43 πŸ”— useretail doesn't show any of my stuff
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01:44 πŸ”— JesseW an identifier with a dot could be "something.exe" which would make a URL like http://archive.org/details/something.exe confusing. It's easier to avoid.
01:46 πŸ”— useretail yeah, i agree, but i don't use any dots in such way
01:47 πŸ”— useretail anyway, i have another problem: archive.org shows that my item (as well as account) was removed. can anyone confirm that?
01:48 πŸ”— useretail latest item uploaded: https://archive.org/details/Authentec
01:48 πŸ”— useretail any admins here?
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01:55 πŸ”— swebb sets mode: +o xmc
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01:58 πŸ”— useretail c'mon guys, don't tell me everything is gone
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02:02 πŸ”— dashcloud you should email info@archive.org and ask them- very rarely it happens that accounts are removed
02:03 πŸ”— useretail dashcloud: i hope it's just some sort of hardware upgrade
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02:12 πŸ”— useretail SketchCow: can you confirm anything?
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02:36 πŸ”— SketchCow Go ask archive.org.
02:37 πŸ”— SketchCow info@archive.org, that's what it's for
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03:33 πŸ”— godane a korean podcasting service: http://podcast-bp.com/
03:34 πŸ”— godane they mostly like to other korean podcast sites
03:34 πŸ”— godane they don't have a copy of the podcasts
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04:19 πŸ”— DFJustin useretail: looks like that item was marked as spam by an admin, so you'll have to email them and straighten it out
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05:02 πŸ”— godane so i got some interesting mms streams
05:02 πŸ”— godane the stream dump doesn't play the video
05:02 πŸ”— godane but plays the audio only
05:03 πŸ”— godane whats funny about it is when i play the it using the mms stream url i get the video
05:03 πŸ”— godane example url: mms://vod2.kbs.gscdn.com/vod/english/today/nt_111219.wmv
05:04 πŸ”— godane the only way i can tell the video is having this problem is by look cache size
05:06 πŸ”— godane the cache size is 5015 kbytes
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06:30 πŸ”— godane so looks like i may have to download those videos with 5015k cashe size with vlc
06:30 πŸ”— godane mplayer maybe not dumping them right
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06:42 πŸ”— wyatt8740 so does mplayer play the video if you aren't trying to write it to disk?
06:42 πŸ”— wyatt8740 or does it only even play in vlc
06:48 πŸ”— wyatt8740 godane: this worked for me to dump the file. mplayer mms://vod2.kbs.gscdn.com/vod/english/today/nt_111219.wmv -dumpstream -dumpfile rawfile.asf
06:49 πŸ”— Honno This is so bizarre https://archive.org/details/vd_is_for_everybody
06:50 πŸ”— wyatt8740 is that two-tone technicolor honno?
06:50 πŸ”— godane thanks
06:50 πŸ”— godane i will see about using that
06:50 πŸ”— Honno wyatt8740, haha
06:50 πŸ”— xmc wyatt8740: it is!
06:50 πŸ”— wyatt8740 or just degrading eastman film turning to red
06:51 πŸ”— wyatt8740 ah, wow, really?
06:51 πŸ”— wyatt8740 schweet
06:51 πŸ”— xmc hm, no, i think i see some blue about 28 second sin
06:51 πŸ”— xmc behind the counter, triangle shape, upper left corner
06:51 πŸ”— wyatt8740 ah, maybe.
06:51 πŸ”— wyatt8740 so it could just be degrading eastman film going red with age
06:51 πŸ”— godane my guess is this is cause some sort of problem: -cache-min 99 -bandwidth 1000000
06:52 πŸ”— xmc yeah i think so
06:52 πŸ”— wyatt8740 godane: uh, maybe. Why don't you try my command exactly?
06:52 πŸ”— wyatt8740 it saved the file and mplayer played it back properly with video and audio
06:52 πŸ”— xmc here's some very well scanned two-color technicolor footage, i think https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8iy_MjegGWY
06:53 πŸ”— wyatt8740 I knew a lot about the prism in the cameras for technicolor - color film and video systems are fascinating to me
06:54 πŸ”— godane i think i used those options to try to speed it up
06:54 πŸ”— godane but it never speed it up
06:54 πŸ”— wyatt8740 yeah, the server's probably bottlenecking you because it doesn't want users hogging a ton more bandwidth than they need to play the video stream
06:55 πŸ”— godane maybe
06:56 πŸ”— wyatt8740 I wish we'd stuck with IB technicolor in the 70s.
06:57 πŸ”— wyatt8740 so many films would be so much better preserved
06:57 πŸ”— xmc IB?
06:57 πŸ”— wyatt8740 imbibition
06:57 πŸ”— wyatt8740 dye transfer
06:57 πŸ”— xmc hm
06:57 πŸ”— xmc aye
06:58 πŸ”— wyatt8740 doesn't degrade much at all
06:58 πŸ”— wyatt8740 way more stable than the eastman process everyone moved to in the late 70s
06:59 πŸ”— wyatt8740 Looking at the wikipedia article on technicolor now, I'm saddened that universal tore down its historic 1925 set to The Phantom of the Opera to make way for its theme park.
06:59 πŸ”— wyatt8740 specifically some rollercoaster I think
07:06 πŸ”— xmc ugh
07:06 πŸ”— xmc let's not
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11:14 πŸ”— atrocity uh, did we kill the filefront forums?
11:15 πŸ”— atrocity can't even get them to load
11:23 πŸ”— HCross2 Oops
11:24 πŸ”— HCross2 arkiver: we killed their forums
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12:11 πŸ”— midas such agression against the forums again
12:12 πŸ”— whydomain PurpleSym did you do the Yahoo Groups archive back in 2015? (asking as I'm looking at doing something similar, and am wondering how you did it / if you're still doing it)
12:13 πŸ”— PurpleSym whydomain: Yes and it won’t finish until 2100 ;)
12:13 πŸ”— PurpleSym Items are here: https://archive.org/details/@purplesymphony?and[]=subject%3A%22yahoo%20groups%22
12:16 πŸ”— whydomain PurpleSym: Wow! (I didn't realise there were that many messages). Any plans to archive the private groups?
12:17 πŸ”— PurpleSym Wrt #messages: http://archiveteam.org/index.php?title=Yahoo!_Groups
12:18 πŸ”— PurpleSym I don’t have code for private groups yet. But I’ll definitely look into it at some point.
12:20 πŸ”— whydomain PurpleSym: So you're using the Yahoo Group Archiver on SourceForge? Or just a script to scrape the API?
12:20 πŸ”— PurpleSym I wrote my own scripts to scrape the API.
12:25 πŸ”— whydomain Thanks! (and good luck!). Any plans for this to migrate to a Warrior project? (with all the recent news regarding Yahoo, I'm starting to think Groups won't live for much longer)
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12:25 πŸ”— whydomain PurpleSym: Oh, and I don't suppose you've found a way round the limiting (I keep getting banned at ~15,000 messages)
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12:40 πŸ”— PurpleSym In case your read the logs, whydomain: Kind of.
12:41 πŸ”— PurpleSym And yep, a warrior project would be nice.
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14:54 πŸ”— whydomain PurpleSym: do check the logs) Are you able to share how to get past the rate limiting? Is your script available anywhere?
14:54 πŸ”— whydomain PurpleSym: Also, in what order are you archiving the groups?
14:55 πŸ”— PurpleSym Old to new by group creation date.
14:55 πŸ”— PurpleSym The scripts are not public.
14:56 πŸ”— whydomain PurpleSym: Do you have a list available of all public / private groups?
14:56 πŸ”— PurpleSym I do.
14:57 πŸ”— whydomain Would you be able to make it available online somewhere?
14:57 πŸ”— PurpleSym Give me a second.
15:02 πŸ”— PurpleSym whydomain: The list: https://6xq.net/paste/yg_list.txt.xz – check your /msg btw.
15:05 πŸ”— godane i'm up to 687k items now
15:07 πŸ”— whydomain PurpleSym: Thanks!
15:09 πŸ”— PurpleSym If you start at the end of the list, whydomain, we will meet in the middle in 50 years or so ;)
15:10 πŸ”— whydomain PurpleSym: I'm a bit busy right now, but I'll see if I can do something later
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15:13 πŸ”— SketchCow Kill the forums!!
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15:33 πŸ”— ErkDog SketchCow did IA Truck ever get found?
15:36 πŸ”— SketchCow Yes.
15:37 πŸ”— joepie91 intact?
15:37 πŸ”— SketchCow Someone abandoned it in the Mission. I THINK intact.
15:37 πŸ”— joepie91 hope so
15:39 πŸ”— schbirid http://4cp.posthaven.com/
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17:02 πŸ”— ErkDog cool
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20:04 πŸ”— HCross Ive got an interesting (and long term idea) of archiving all UK company information. The government opened their beta online register https://beta.companieshouse.gov.uk - where you can view documents/accounts
20:05 πŸ”— HCross Its a beta, so it could go down as well
20:08 πŸ”— arkiver HCross: awesome! We should definitely get those PDFs, I'll get some scripts going for that if you'd like
20:08 πŸ”— HCross Thanks, could we also get all the other pages like https://beta.companieshouse.gov.uk/company/01396513/officers
20:08 πŸ”— MrRadar arkiver: Did you see my question over in #archiveteam about the GameFront Froums grab?
20:09 πŸ”— arkiver grab is slowed down.
20:09 πŸ”— * arkiver gotta go again
20:09 πŸ”— MrRadar About the IP bock check
20:09 πŸ”— arkiver I'll have a look at that later
20:09 πŸ”— MrRadar OK. I wasn't sure if you saw that since you didn't say anything
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20:21 πŸ”— VADemon joepie91: hmm, I think we're both wrong. wouldn't it be 16^8?
20:22 πŸ”— VADemon Oh no, wait. I messed up the logic I think
20:23 πŸ”— VADemon Exactly, I did. Assumed anything but A character in those places %)
20:23 πŸ”— VADemon Sorry for the derp
20:28 πŸ”— VADemon joepie91: one question, are the IDs all 8 characters long?
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20:34 πŸ”— joepie91 VADemon: 9*
20:34 πŸ”— joepie91 but yes
20:34 πŸ”— joepie91 as far as I can tell
20:34 πŸ”— joepie91 it in fact ignores anything beyond the 9th
20:34 πŸ”— joepie91 you can add infinite crap and it won't do anything
20:34 πŸ”— joepie91 as far as I've seen anyway
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20:52 πŸ”— VADemon roger, generating 9 chars long
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