#archiveteam-bs 2016-05-03,Tue

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00:01 🔗 useretail JW_work: most of them (if not all) are shareware or trial versions of freely available software sorted by versions. also therea are few (previosly) freely available ebooks, press-kits, and website and other stuff that was described and categorized! the last item i uploaded was "Authentec", containing rare material: software and drivers for AuthenTec products. That's the company Apple bought in
00:01 🔗 useretail 2012 providing solutions for biometrics and touch control. AuthenTec technology is currently used in Apple's Touch ID
00:02 🔗 JW_work nice — that's exactly the sort of context I was looking for.
00:03 🔗 JW_work Could you separate out the software from the ebooks/other textual material in the list?
00:03 🔗 useretail btw, that Authentec stuff is not available even on Wayback Machine
00:03 🔗 useretail yeah
00:03 🔗 useretail one moment
00:10 🔗 zino HCross: I've played a few games now. I like it! But it's time for sleep.
00:10 🔗 useretail http://pastebin.com/cHg2mwxy
00:11 🔗 useretail separated by newline
00:11 🔗 JW_work ok, I'll pass that (and your comments about what it is) and see what I can do.
00:12 🔗 JW_work pass that along, I mean
00:12 🔗 useretail thanks again
00:12 🔗 JW_work what operating systems are the various software for? If Windows, what versions?
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00:20 🔗 useretail Mostly Windows. From 98 to 7 I believe.
00:21 🔗 JW_work Thanks
00:24 🔗 justsome arkiver?
00:28 🔗 arkiver yes
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00:37 🔗 justsome you didn't answer my questions arkiver...
00:37 🔗 justsome from the other channel
00:38 🔗 arkiver I guess we didn't have anything to upload if nothing was uploaded
00:38 🔗 arkiver if that is what you mean
00:44 🔗 arkiver and yeah, it'll probably be in a WARC on IA
00:45 🔗 arkiver you can also do a local grab of it as JW_work said to have it not in a WARC too
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01:05 🔗 justsome i thought wpull was for warc files though...
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01:46 🔗 MrRadar wpull can do both WARCs and non-WARCs (and even both at the same time)
01:52 🔗 JesseW So, support.crtc.gc.ca appears to be a total of 275MB. I'll just grab it now in any case.
01:58 🔗 ranma so ... you people backing up large sets of data
01:58 🔗 ranma how many of you have redundancy and sustainability?
01:58 🔗 ranma being able to ensure this data lasts for decades+
01:59 🔗 ranma like 1TB+ backups
02:00 🔗 ranma do you own VPS/dedi hosting companies or something?
02:01 🔗 MrRadar Is this for personal or commercial stuff? For my personal stuff I just use consumer external HDDs (two copies of any data I care about on separate disks) with a cloud backup on top
02:02 🔗 MrRadar Of course that's probably not going to last a decade by itself but as long as I can keep on top of migrating it every few years I should be fine
02:03 🔗 JesseW in large part, we rely on the Internet Archive not dying, currently
02:03 🔗 JesseW we hope to improve on that
02:04 🔗 MrRadar Yeah, for ArchiveTeam stuff we basically treat Internet Archive as a black box that will keep the data safe
02:04 🔗 MrRadar We do have a project to do a distributed backup of at least parts of the IA
02:05 🔗 MrRadar What's the status on that, anyways?
02:05 🔗 ranma nice
02:06 🔗 ranma <MrRadar> Is this for personal or commercial stuff? <-sites you're trying to save that are going down
02:06 🔗 ranma how may TB was Game Front?
02:06 🔗 MrRadar Yeah, I thought you were asking about how we saved our personal stuff, not ArchiveTeam stuff
02:06 🔗 MrRadar The tracker says 36.5 TB
02:06 🔗 MrRadar http://tracker.archiveteam.org/gamefront/
02:07 🔗 ranma wow
02:07 🔗 MrRadar blip.tv (a defunct video hosting service) was 214 TB: http://tracker.archiveteam.org/blip/
02:07 🔗 JesseW AFAIK, the status on IA.BAK is that it's running, working fine, but needs lots more people with lots more hard drive space, and that would be helped by making the install process cleaner and more straightforward, and there isn't much movement right now on that.
02:07 🔗 JesseW But I don't know specifics, because I haven't gotten directly involved.
02:08 🔗 JesseW useretail: I've asked the ArchiveLabs people; we'll see what comes of it.
02:10 🔗 ranma wow @ rapidshare
02:10 🔗 ranma it was only 183GB?
02:11 🔗 JesseW useretail: they suggest sending the info I prompted you into writing down (i.e. the context, and identifier list, etc) to info@ as that's where they'd pass it on to, also.
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03:05 🔗 VADemon JesseW: I use this link to download wget for windows (newer versions): https://eternallybored.org/misc/wget/
03:14 🔗 VADemon ranma: rapidshare-grab was mostly a manual job afai remember, we had no links to download from
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03:44 🔗 JesseW actually, it seems to be more like 59 GB. Certainly larger, but not unbearably so.
03:44 🔗 JesseW I'll still grab a copy, but probably won't keep it around after we are certain it has made it up to IA.
03:45 🔗 JesseW But I'll make it into a torrent, and other people can grab it there if they'd like.
03:45 🔗 JesseW it = ftp://support.crtc.gc.ca
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09:51 🔗 vitzli JesseW, "Insufficient system resources" for me too
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13:55 🔗 Yoshimura Archiving old CDs.
13:55 🔗 Yoshimura Should I somehow generate some meta to be uploaded?
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14:07 🔗 HCross2 Yoshimura: can you scan the other side of the disk?
14:08 🔗 Yoshimura Oh, that. Hmm. Yeah, but crappy manufacturer means would have to run Windows. Or lower quality scans, but yeah. Good point.
14:09 🔗 Yoshimura Also filelist meta could be handy, I suppose is some ... indented json format, so easy to read and parse
14:10 🔗 Yoshimura Got fucked up life, tons of cds, diskettes and stuff, I just do not want to live this life anymore. So looking to archive stuff, eliminate and change my life or die trying.
14:10 🔗 Yoshimura Btw, yipdw around?
14:10 🔗 Yoshimura I guess he is the only knowledgable about the pipeline of mine.
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14:12 🔗 Yoshimura HCross2: Thanks for tip. And... if you could lift the ban I still have on #archivebot I could use it seldom to archive some pages. Wanted to talk to yipd, but he seems to be away last two weeks.
14:14 🔗 HCross2 I don't feel it's my place to discuss any bans, as I didn't implement then
14:14 🔗 HCross2 Them
14:15 🔗 Yoshimura Wll he said "if anyone want's to lift it, feel free"
14:15 🔗 Yoshimura And that was the same day even. Now its two weeks or more
14:15 🔗 Yoshimura I was not present for a week.
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14:39 🔗 Yoshimura I cannot upload data
14:40 🔗 Yoshimura The only licenses allowed are not as the software.
14:41 🔗 Yoshimura Or maybe I can, but there are only few collections to pick from, gosh.
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15:16 🔗 SketchCow Anyone who lifts the ban has it return by me.
15:19 🔗 HCross2 ^ the reason I didn't want to get involved. Wanted to wait for our supreme leader to make a judgement
15:19 🔗 SketchCow NOT SUPREME LEADER
15:20 🔗 HCross2 sets mode: +o SketchCow
15:20 🔗 SketchCow Also, I just got back from the hospital, helping my dad, and I'm going to sleep to dream of WARCs
15:21 🔗 HCross2 Sorry and goodnight
15:21 🔗 MrRadar Hope everything's OK. Get some good rest
15:26 🔗 Yoshimura So noone tells me anything what is with my pipeline, and got useless ban on archivebot, so cannot contribute, or would have to ask to archive every single crap.
15:26 🔗 Yoshimura Also I am seriously sick, but who cares.
15:27 🔗 Yoshimura So what I can just do? Hmm... let me think... wish (almost) everyone good luck, say "Fuck you!" and fuck off myself.
15:27 🔗 Yoshimura So... Fuck you!
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15:39 🔗 Frogging lmao
15:40 🔗 Frogging this guy, I swear..
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15:53 🔗 godane SketchCow: theblaze.com will have a full archive very soon
15:53 🔗 godane i have all it up to 2015 for the stories
16:00 🔗 * phillipsj feels like such a rebel. The provider that owns the line to my aprtment says no more than two IRC connections per device, but the Reseller I went with neglected that in their terms of use.
16:01 🔗 phillipsj Until they roll out IPv6 they have no real way of knowing anyway.
16:01 🔗 Rotab "no more than two IRC connections per device"
16:01 🔗 Rotab what.
16:02 🔗 phillipsj I suspect it is so they have an excuse to kick bot herders, but it is in the TOS.
16:02 🔗 Frogging ...your ISP is telling you how many IRC connections you're allowed to hvae?
16:05 🔗 Rotab per device!
16:05 🔗 Rotab :D
16:05 🔗 phillipsj No, my transit provider does if I am a direct customer.
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16:07 🔗 phillipsj "Any computer or other device connected through the Services may not maintain more than 2 simultaneous chat connections." https://www.shaw.ca/terms-of-use/#section2
16:08 🔗 Frogging lol
16:08 🔗 Rotab ha
16:09 🔗 Rotab i wonder for how long that policy has been there
16:10 🔗 Frogging also, even if you did have IPv6, you could still NAT yourself behind one address :p
16:10 🔗 phillipsj At least 3 years, but I suspect that you suspect longer than that.
16:10 🔗 phillipsj Frogging, but why would I want to?
16:11 🔗 Frogging dunno
16:11 🔗 Frogging :p
16:12 🔗 Rotab i suspect that. but they also have data caps and shaping, so i dont know.
16:12 🔗 * phillipsj has a bad habit of reading fine-print.
16:14 🔗 phillipsj I am curious how that will work out if I transfers Terabytes 2am-8am (when Teksavvy says they don't care), but say under the 300GB cap during that day.
16:14 🔗 phillipsj If Shaw complains, I may have to stop.
16:15 🔗 Rotab "The Usenet news service included with a Shaw account is provided for interactive use by you, using a commonly-available NNTP client such as NETSCAPE COMMUNICATOR or OUTLOOK EXPRESS."
16:15 🔗 Rotab :D
16:15 🔗 phillipsj ahh the 90's :)
16:16 🔗 Rotab seems like they dont do usenet anymore anyways
16:16 🔗 Rotab suprisingly.
16:17 🔗 phillipsj The signal to noise ratio is kind of low as I understand it.
16:17 🔗 xmc ... "kind of low", yeah
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16:21 🔗 i0npulse question: when using gnu scree, and -x where 2 users are connected to the same screen session, how do you allow each user to independently control the size of the split windows?
16:21 🔗 i0npulse gnu screen*
16:23 🔗 phillipsj sounds like you are doing things just weirdly enough to break things. (I do the same)
16:23 🔗 i0npulse At the moment 2 users have to size their terminal the same, and one user has to do Ctrl+a F to fit to the current window size, but I want each user to be able to have independent control over the size each multiplexed screen view
16:24 🔗 i0npulse This is a pretty standard way of doing paired programming via unix/vim
16:24 🔗 i0npulse Though maybe TMUX solves for this... hmm
16:25 🔗 Kazzy why not just buy another monitor
16:26 🔗 phillipsj kazzy they may not be in the same room.
16:26 🔗 Kazzy two monitors, then
16:31 🔗 phuzion i0npulse: If I'm understanding you correctly, what you're trying to do is not possible.
16:32 🔗 i0npulse Oh, how so?
16:32 🔗 phuzion You want user a to be able to have a terminal of 80x80 characters, and user b to have the same terminal sized to 100x100 characters, or something along those lines?
16:32 🔗 i0npulse correct, when connected to screen -x
16:33 🔗 i0npulse if its not possible that is cool I just want confirmation ;)
16:33 🔗 phuzion I'm almost 100% sure that screen doesn't work that way.
16:33 🔗 phuzion Basically, screen is emulating a tty of a designated size, and just displaying it to multiple people when you're using screen -x like you mentioned.
16:34 🔗 i0npulse ok that makes sense
16:42 🔗 i0npulse I wonder if multiuser mode would yield a different result: http://www.gnu.org/software/screen/manual/screen.html#Multiuser-Session
16:44 🔗 i0npulse Your insight has been helpful phuzion, thanks
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16:55 🔗 godane so some missing Aviation Week is getting uploaded
16:55 🔗 godane there was some that didn't get grabbed or they added more missing back issues
16:56 🔗 godane i think that wiith 1931 cause i know the first 6 were not there
16:57 🔗 godane also there all bad black and white scans
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17:51 🔗 godane I'm grabbing lauraingraham.com flashplayer pages
17:51 🔗 godane this will give mp3 list of her radio show
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22:36 🔗 dashcloud From the Register, comes news of a flaw in What.cd that lets you avoid limits and escalate your priviledges: http://www.theregister.co.uk/2016/05/02/what_cd_security_flaw/
22:54 🔗 joepie91 bahahaha
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