#archiveteam-bs 2016-06-06,Mon

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04:07 🔗 vitzli Apparently, this is the Edge UA string Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 10.0; Win64; x64) AppleWebKit/537.36 (KHTML, like Gecko) Chrome/42.0.2311.135 Safari/537.36 Edge/12.246
04:08 🔗 pikhq Good ol' UAs. Been broken nonsense for ages.
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04:13 🔗 ErkDog lol
04:14 🔗 JesseW ErkDog: ?
04:15 🔗 ErkDog that Edge UA
04:15 🔗 ErkDog like shouldn't it just be "Edge/12.246"
04:15 🔗 ErkDog what's all the other garbage
04:15 🔗 pikhq ErkDog: Accounting for a *lot* of Javascript that checks for certain strings in a UA string.
04:16 🔗 ErkDog yeah but like, if it's the Edge browser, then why doesn't it just say Edge, why reference mozilla, and chrome,
04:16 🔗 pikhq Because Javascript is looking for those strings.
04:16 🔗 pikhq You break things if you omit them.
04:21 🔗 ErkDog gotcha
04:24 🔗 JesseW ErkDog: To answer your question about how old tr.im is dead -- the database was wiped; there's a *new* service at that same URL, but it's a different database.
04:24 🔗 JesseW IIRC
04:38 🔗 ErkDog K thanks, yeah I was like whaaat then as I went down page, I saw and deleted my comment, lol
04:40 🔗 JesseW I saw you had, but I wasn't sure if you got your question answered as well
04:40 🔗 godane so i plan on doing something different with mbc videos i have downloaded
04:40 🔗 JesseW it's a reasonable question -- might be worth adding an additional note to that entry clarifying it
04:40 🔗 godane there are going to be more in a daily dump of all the videos they have from 2007 on
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05:10 🔗 JesseW Now, that's a phrase I hadn't previously thought of: "pancake flavored Easter themed Kit Kat bar"
05:10 🔗 JesseW https://twitter.com/textfiles/status/739647391502983168
05:11 🔗 MrRadar Japan gets all the best candy flavors :(
05:13 🔗 JesseW Hm, there's probably a "online random name generator generator" out there somewhere. Might be fun to make a "X flavored Y themed Z bar" instance.
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05:25 🔗 yipdw x86 -> ARM cross-compilation of C extensions in Python modules is not quite hell, but it is very close
05:26 🔗 yipdw oh yeah and you have to teach the Debian packaging pipeline about that
05:26 🔗 * yipdw argh
05:28 🔗 yipdw dh_virtualenv seems to get pretty close, though
05:35 🔗 godane so i'm using livestreamer to grab the mbc news mp4s now
05:38 🔗 godane livestreamer grabs the m3u8 file thats 20 minutes lone in under 60 seconds
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06:14 🔗 godane looks like livestreamer will make 700k videos out 300k streams if under 20 minutes
06:15 🔗 godane i have to do a re-encode of the output from livestreamer cause there is no time code
06:16 🔗 godane these videos from livestreamer will work in mplayer but not in vlc
06:16 🔗 murk I seem to remember there's a way to rebuild the index without running it through another encoding.
06:18 🔗 godane http://superuser.com/questions/4570/how-can-i-repair-a-broken-avi-file
06:18 🔗 godane i re-encode with -c copy
06:22 🔗 godane so i may use the mp4 paths to grab the rest of MBC Newsdesk
06:22 🔗 godane see that i can get streams at a much faster rate
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08:07 🔗 Simpbra1 will be back to full archiving duties soon, just juggling new home and new job
08:09 🔗 xmc np
08:09 🔗 xmc yr allowed to have a life
08:09 🔗 xmc :)
08:13 🔗 jut Good new happy end of school (Lithuania)! I have my life back.
08:18 🔗 xmc yay!
08:20 🔗 HCross2 On that note, I may not be around as much this week, end of the year so fun is happening.. Not
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14:59 🔗 murk requests and urllib don't seem to have any way of seeing their raw input and output, weird.
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15:11 🔗 murk my hacky stuff to get around that doesn't work very well.
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15:33 🔗 MrRadar Just saw this go by in the Archivebot dashbaord, quilters try to figure out whether copyright applies to quilting patterns: http://www.quiltingboard.com/main-f1/more-discusion-about-copyright-issues-t185888.html
15:33 🔗 MrRadar IANAL but I'm pretty sure the answer is yes
15:33 🔗 MrRadar Thought it was interesting to see copyright come up in that context
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15:34 🔗 murk it looks like wpull implements HTTP/1.1 itself, wasn't expecting that.
16:11 🔗 hook54321 trying to find this article for free: http://blogs.ft.com/tech-blog/2013/06/tim-berners-lee-prism/
16:12 🔗 hook54321 nvm. found it.
16:12 🔗 hook54321 http://web.archive.org/web/20130612022939/http://blogs.ft.com/tech-blog/2013/06/tim-berners-lee-prism/
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16:35 🔗 schbirid http://virtuallyfun.superglobalmegacorp.com/2016/06/06/pcem-v11-released/
16:36 🔗 MrRadar I'm curious, what's the difference between DosBox and that?
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19:38 🔗 ErkDog Ohhh I did the lord of the rings wiki, lol
19:39 🔗 ErkDog http://puu.sh/pj9wB/3275066ac6.png
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20:17 🔗 ranma fashion/clothes can't be copyrighted, right?
20:17 🔗 xmc yep
20:18 🔗 ranma guess I'll have to read more of the quilting thread to see upon what grounds they're claiming it can be copyrighted
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21:00 🔗 schbirid are you sure? i could swear there was some ruckus last year
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21:48 🔗 hook54321 anyone know why http://jezebel.com/ is excluded from the wayback machine?
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21:53 🔗 MrRadar Huh, it's not a robots.txt exclusion. I've never seen that before
21:53 🔗 MrRadar You'd probably have to ask info@archive.org what's up
21:53 🔗 hook54321 http://web.archive.org/web/http://jezebel.com/
21:54 🔗 hook54321 I haven't seen any of the other gawker websites be excluded from the wayback machine
21:54 🔗 hook54321 Yeah, I'll send them a quick email.
21:56 🔗 JW_work1 hook54321: that error message generally means someone from the site directly emailed IA and asked for it to be excluded, rather than using the robots.txt method.
21:57 🔗 MrRadar Might be worth archivebotting once some pipelines free up
21:57 🔗 JW_work1 While you are welcome to email info@ I doubt they'll tell you anything more than that.
21:58 🔗 hook54321 yeah. I'll try contacting IA first, then Jezebel, then jezebel authors directly, then gawker authors, then gawker.
21:58 🔗 MrRadar Eh, I wouldn't go that far
21:58 🔗 Sanqui archive with complete abandon.
21:58 🔗 JW_work1 Given Gawker's general problems right now, I doubt you'll get a very favorable hearing from anyone.
21:59 🔗 MrRadar If they don't want the IA crawling them that's their prerogative
21:59 🔗 hook54321 There's still problems at gawker?
21:59 🔗 hook54321 It's even more strange they didn't have the other sites excluded though.
22:01 🔗 hook54321 does IA require the webmaster to request the site to be excluded?
22:02 🔗 MrRadar The easiest way is just to block ia_archiver in your robots.txt
22:02 🔗 MrRadar That will also retroactively remove access to past crawls until you un-block the IA's bot
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