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godane |
so i should be up to 2008-09-20 with funny or die videos now |
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00:22
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godane |
btw i'm up to 790k items |
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MrRadar |
Where do you find the time to do so much archiving? |
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godane |
i have autism and i'm unemployed |
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MrRadar |
Ah, that would definitely give you time |
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godane |
that and most of it is scripting |
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godane |
no different then what Jason does when uploading 1000s of items |
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godane |
some stuff is more pickly like the funny or die videos |
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godane |
but thats cause description metadata doesn't always upload |
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godane |
i have to upload the missing files without descriptions so the at least get uploaded |
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godane |
keywords, title and date metadata is still there |
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MrRadar |
Thanks for all the work you do, you may be the most productive "unemployed" person ever |
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Asparagir |
^ what he/she/they said. You do good work, and lots of it. |
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JesseW |
Heh, there have been a LOT of unemployed people who have done lots of valuable work. You stand in a long tradition. |
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xmc |
^ |
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joepie91 |
JesseW: hrm. it's a very interesting concept, but it's failing to provide any good examples of real-world implementations or what they'd look like |
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JesseW |
joepie91: what, WTFD? |
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JesseW |
well, I came across it from https://github.com/hyperboria/docs/blob/master/achievements.md so that may provide somehting of an example |
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godane |
i'm starting to download the july 2016 of kpfa |
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Stiletto |
got an easy one - emulation9.com - Archive.org grabs 403, browser sees 403, Google Cache sees it fine. at the very least could someone please find me a workaround to view it? web-based proxy or something? :) |
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Stiletto |
i tried a user-agent changer in Firefox but it didn't do the trick |
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Stiletto |
man I am rusty at these tricks |
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JesseW |
Stiletto: I can't read the language it's written in. What particular URL are you trying to get at, that isn't in Google Cache? |
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Stiletto |
it's Japanese and IIRC they give error 403 to all non-Japan browsers. Google Cache sees it fine. so how can I view it normally and not in Google Cache? ;) |
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joepie91 |
Stiletto: moment |
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Stiletto |
thanks joepie91! :) |
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joepie91 |
I think I might have a Japan-based VPS... |
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* |
joepie91 digs |
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JesseW |
interestingly, it fails using Google Translate, also |
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joepie91 |
yes I do! |
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Stiletto |
cool, thanks joepie91 |
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JesseW |
btw, joepie91 -- was your comment about "it's a very interesting concept" in reference to the essay I posted about WTFM, or something else? |
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Stiletto |
the website isn't in danger or anything, it's been online since 1999 |
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joepie91 |
-bash: less: command not found |
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joepie91 |
... k... |
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joepie91 |
Stiletto: hm, I get a 403 from that VPS also |
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JesseW |
"it's been online since 1999" -- that alone seems like a sign of danger |
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joepie91 |
perhaps it's just broken? |
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joepie91 |
and Google Cache happens to have a good copy |
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joepie91 |
JesseW: WTFM |
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JesseW |
the google cache copy is from Aug 1, 2016 01:09:45 GMT |
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Stiletto |
well it's been dishing out 403 for years and years now. IIRC there was some drama in the emu-scene and the guy locked down the site somewhat |
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Stiletto |
i still have it in my bookmarks tho and tonight i got to wondering about workarounds |
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DoomTay |
We wouldn't happen to have anyone onboard who actually lives in Japan, do we? |
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joepie91 |
fwiw, this is maxmind geolocation for my server: {"as":"AS20473 Choopa, LLC","city":"Heiwajima","country":"Japan","countryCode":"JP","isp":"Choopa, LLC","lat":35.5833,"lon":139.7483,"org":"Choopa, LLC","query":"108.61.200.70","region":"13","regionName":"Tokyo","status":"success","timezone":"Asia/Tokyo","zip":"143-0006"} |
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joepie91 |
it might be locked to Japanese *ISPs* |
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joepie91 |
(Choopa is very much not one :P) |
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JesseW |
and it's now 2:06 GMT, so I don't think it's broken. |
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DoomTay |
If so, this would be the first time I've seen a site restricted by ISP |
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joepie91 |
DoomTay: not for me :P |
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JesseW |
locked to Japanese ISPs and Google, presumably |
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joepie91 |
DoomTay: Tunisian government actually did this during arab spring |
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Stiletto |
hrm |
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joepie91 |
hm |
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joepie91 |
may be Egyptian |
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joepie91 |
not Tunisian |
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JesseW |
can you go from one page to another *via* Google Cache? |
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joepie91 |
can't recall which |
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JesseW |
could have been both |
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joepie91 |
Stiletto: if you have a few $ and you consider it important enough, you could try some actually-Japanese VPS services |
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joepie91 |
see also https://www.exoticvps.com/country/japan |
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joepie91 |
some of those are not really Japanese though |
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JesseW |
Looking at the google cache page, I'm not seeing many internal links -- Stiletto, can you provide some examples? |
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Stiletto |
all the internal links are on the left side between the two graphics linking to amazon |
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Stiletto |
ex. http://www.emulation9.com/emulators/a_mame.html |
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Stiletto |
come to think of it it would be nice to have a legit backup in the archive, they've got 17 years of emulator news headlines. That's pretty rare these days to find a news site that's been going that long. Looks like Google Cache is thorough, but you can't browse from page to page within Google Cache (tho I think there's a Firefox plugin that can do that or something) |
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02:18
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Stiletto |
ex: http://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cache:25iDTYHPnpYJ:www.emulation9.com/archives/ |
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Stiletto |
anyhow, its always been an annoyance of mine :) |
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Stiletto |
sorry to bother you guys :) |
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Stiletto |
hm google cache does not have some of those old headlines |
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02:26
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joepie91 |
Stiletto: try prefixing the URL with cache: in Google search |
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02:26
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joepie91 |
and wait a few days |
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joepie91 |
chances are they will have it then |
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Stiletto |
hm ok |
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Stiletto |
maybe someone _should_ do a grab with an Japanese ISP for archive.org. I have no money for a VPS right now tho :-/ |
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joepie91 |
(I'm fairly certain that Google obsessively collects URLs from all of their properties, and uses stuff like this to track demand for specific URLs) |
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Stiletto |
(agreed) |
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hook54321 |
Stiletto: try changing your useragent to the google cache UA |
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hook54321 |
Is it immoral to download and archive a movie that is available to rent for a limited time that you think might be at risk of not being streamable or available on a DVD later on? |
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JesseW |
"We are not moral guardians." |
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JesseW |
random survey request I got -- hard to tell if it's spam or not: https://paste2.org/M1PJ3GFa |
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hook54321 |
JesseW: if you can't be a moral guardian then what's your opinion on it. :P |
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hook54321 |
I keep on getting emails from "The Hindu Daily Digest" and I don't remember signing up for it. |
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godane |
with pokemon go being the craze i have this for you guys: https://archive.org/details/Becoming_A_Master_-_The_Ultimate_Pokemon_Experience_1999_VHSRip |
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godane |
i uploaded it awhile back |
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hook54321 |
godane: "FBI Warning" xD |
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godane |
over 2k items in my godanefunnyordie account |
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godane |
looks like bombjack scanned 3 more Boardwatch Magazines |
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SketchCow |
Where |
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godane |
http://www.bombjack.org/commodore/magazines/boardwatch-magazine/boardwatch-magazine.htm |
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SketchCow |
Exciting |
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godane |
i know |
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godane |
i hope they also get the misssing Byte Magazine issues from the 1990s scanned too |
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godane |
also this guy is uploading Boot Magazine : https://archive.org/details/@ckeck |
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godane |
he uploaded more on reddit: https://www.reddit.com/user/KnuckleSangwich |
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godane |
i have them all even he doesn't upload them all to IA |
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SketchCow |
https://archive.org/search.php?query=collection%3Aopensource+mediatype%3Atexts+magazine is always a fun search. |
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hook54321: I tried a few Googlebot useragents but they didn't work. Not sure if the google-cache useragent is known? this blog post from 2012 didn't seem to think so: http://www.coconutheadphones.com/google-crawling-behavior/ |
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hook54321 |
If someone were to setup grab-site with a Facebook cookie and then just had it start archiving, could it potentially start sending friend requests to tons of people? I'm not planning on doing this, i just want to know if that or something similar could happen. |
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not unless Facebook does friend requests via GETs |
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which AFAIK they don't |
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wpull/grab-site follows links, it won't click buttons unless you script it to do otherwise |
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How can I tell if a website uses GETs? |
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you can investigate HTTP traffic using the web inspector and from there get a gradually better picture of what request verbs are being sent |
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all that said, I don't think Facebook would do something like that |
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I'm not archiving anything on Facebook at the moment, it's a different site. |
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looks like IA index is not updating |
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anyways i'm uploading kpfa for 2016-07 |
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ok now index is updating |
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[23:40] <salvum> Just an FYI for Defcon goers.... they are using Biometrics for the room locks at bailys and paris. you can opt out. |
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def congoers |
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i kinda like the idea of not having to carry around your key |
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i don't like the idea of giving fingerprints to the mob |
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SketchCow: http://www.bombjack.org/commodore/disks/?C=M;O=D |
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alot of disks released in the last month it looks like |