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NASA Technical Reports Server (NTRS) 20070019756: Foldable Walker : https://archive.org/details/NASA_NTRS_Archive_20070019756 |
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godane |
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http://archiveteam.org/index.php?title=User:JesseW&oldid=26128 <- short essay on six categories of backups, ranging from "Online, in a well-known location" to "Offline, and lost". |
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Comments, questions, scarcasm, all welcomed. |
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DoomTay: I tried to mention that, with "Great for accessibility, and reliability (if it ceases to be available, people will know quickly and definitively)" and "Higher risk of accidental loss, as only the custodian can verify accessibility." |
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cloudflare-- |
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godane |
i maybe uploading CNET News Daily Podcast soon |
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godane |
turned out i had a few years of it |
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i'm grabbing 2006 and 2007 before i start uploading |
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godane |
*CNET News.com Daily Podcast |
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SketchCow |
(The one that mirrors it to my two mirrors and uploads to archive.org) |
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I saw that part of it. |
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I didn't realize how bad this library/archive copyright status attack is. It's pretty bad. |
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https://www.techdirt.com/articles/20160729/23591535111/copyright-office-intent-changing-part-copyright-that-protects-libraries-archives-even-though-no-one-wants-it-changed.shtml |
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schbirid |
everyone's favourite shitty provider has a 50% off special on their vps http://oneprovider.com/onecloud/ssd-virtual-servers |
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(in US locations only) |
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SketchCow: Hi. What’s the policy on reconstructing WARCs from file trees? |
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SketchCow |
Do it right, and we'll talk with IA |
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PurpleSym |
Ok. |
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HCross |
SketchCow, where and when in the UK? |
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SketchCow |
London on Thursday and Saturday, south on other days |
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SketchCow |
I assume you live in a lighthouse in Sussex |
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HCross |
Nah, im just up in Hertfordshire, but in London all of next week on a course |
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SketchCow |
ooo |
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JW_work1 |
Medowar: Google's Orkut archive looks straightforward enough to grab. http://orkut.google.com/en.html |
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JW_work1 |
I'm not sure if it would be too big for #archivebot, but I don't see other issues. |
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arkiver |
It's big |
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arkiver |
we'll do a project |
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arkiver |
but yeah, pretty easy to grab |
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arkiver |
what is the deadline? |
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arkiver |
actually, I can find that myself |
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JW_work1 |
https://support.google.com/orkut/?hl=en <- says the personal content will not be accessible through Google Takeout after Sept 2016. |
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arkiver |
cool, let's do a project this month |
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joepie91 |
https://medium.com/@screeley/embedly-medium-c182db023861 |
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joepie91 |
Embedly has been acquired by Medium |
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JW_work1 |
what content does embedly directly control? |
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JW_work1 |
medium seems to be breaking archive.org links… e.g. https://web.archive.org/web/20160802175340/https://medium.com/@screeley/embedly-medium-c182db023861 |
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JW_work1 |
automatically redirects back to medium's homepage, at least for me |
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Frogging |
modern skype, now with so much padding that you can barely fit 10 lines on the screen |
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Frogging |
http://blogs.skype.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/08/UWP-Desktop-group-chat-dark-CROPPED.png |
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schbirid |
beautiful |
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schbirid |
so personal |
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schbirid |
with all the photos and names |
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schbirid |
i miss the good old "dont put your personal info on the web" days :( |
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yipdw |
JW_work1: it's some XHR they do to /batch |
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JW_work1 |
What do you mean by "/batch"? |
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yipdw |
there's Javascript in the page that attempts to POST to /_/batch and expects something |
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yipdw |
that seems to trigger a bunch of violated assumptions and it gets kicked back to medium.com |
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yipdw |
open that wayback page in an inspector, trace network traffic and preserve logs across page loads and you'll see it |
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yipdw |
holy shit, there is a lot in the execution environment when that redirect happens |
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yipdw |
several hundred bindings |
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joepie91 |
JW_work1: basically, Embedly is like a URL shortener for embedded content |
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joepie91 |
you give them a URL and they give you an embeddable page thing |
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joepie91 |
plus some other misc stuff like image resizing |
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joepie91 |
if embedly goes boom, a lot of sites will go boom |
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JW_work1 |
ick. that's going to be a bunch of broken links |
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JW_work1 |
thanks, yipdw — that makes sense |
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yipdw |
in any case I don't think this is maliciously coded behavior |
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yipdw |
there's a 403 coming from POST /_/batch from Wayback and it looks like the script just kinda goes "lol" |
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joepie91 |
yipdw: Medium is known for doing a bunch of JS bullshit that breaks things... |
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yipdw |
joepie91: do you know if any browser's inspector can assign new names to variables |
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yipdw |
I realize I'm asking for inspectors to start to become friggin IDA Pro |
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yipdw |
but like you need that to figure out what the heck is going on |
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xmc |
D: |
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yipdw |
pretty-printing minified JS is pretty helpful on its own tho |
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joepie91 |
yipdw: er, can you clarify a little on what you're trying to do? |
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joepie91 |
(the answer is "possibly" :P) |
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yipdw |
joepie91: oh, I've set XHR breakpoints in minified Javascript and I want to trace through it, renaming variables as I get some idea of what they are |
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yipdw |
the first two are doable in Chromium |
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yipdw |
the Web Inspector in Chromium can highlight variables and it appears to be aware of scope as well |
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yipdw |
I couldn't figure out a way to tag them with some other name tho |
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yipdw |
so I guess it's not even a rename, it's more like "assign tag to this binding" |
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yipdw |
you can already do this by setting up watches and looking at the environment, but for me that's sometimes too much information -- I don't need to know that gv is an XMLHttpRequest, I just need to know it's "XHR that triggered POST /batch" |
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joepie91 |
ah, yeah |
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SketchCow |
http://imgur.com/gallery/ho6iu3X |
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joepie91 |
yipdw: so in Chrome, you -should- be able to edit code inline |
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joepie91 |
but it doesn't do automatic global identifier replacement |
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joepie91 |
yipdw: I kinda sorta wrote some code for this but it's a mess |
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joepie91 |
and it's Node :P |
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joepie91 |
but I used it to take apart Browlock's obfuscated code |
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SketchCow |
Also: Fuck raccoons http://i.imgur.com/gv9FCPV.jpg |
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yipdw |
joepie91: oh, huh, you can edit code inline but not in pretty-print mode |
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yipdw |
hmmmm |
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yipdw |
maybe I just need a 5k monitor so I can show the inline watch lines across the full monitor width |
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Frogging |
SketchCow: LOL |
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joepie91 |
yipdw: that... what |
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joepie91 |
you can edit the code inline but not in pretty-print |
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yipdw |
yes |
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joepie91 |
what braindead developer thought that was a reasonable limitation |
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joepie91 |
lol |
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yipdw |
maybe nobody wanted to implement on-the-fly reformatting |
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yipdw |
I dunno |
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joepie91 |
yipdw: anyhow, want me to zip up and send you the browlock code? |
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yipdw |
sure |
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joepie91 |
it will be essentially documentation-less, mind |
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yipdw |
I'm working on other stuff at the moment but it'd be nice to have |
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joepie91 |
but it has some debugging tools like AST visualization |
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HCross |
SketchCow, which part of London are you in next week? |
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joepie91 |
and you can use it to transform the AST directly |
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SketchCow |
Not next week |
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SketchCow |
tomorroow morning |
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SketchCow |
huuuugs |
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HCross |
oh.... |
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HCross |
http://www.pcworld.com/article/3102998/security/200m-yahoo-accounts-go-up-for-sale-on-digital-black-market.html |
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Medowar |
JW_work1 arkiver: That is why Im asking, as a sort of reminder. It is still marked as upcoming but will expire next month |
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JW_work1 |
and it's good that you reminded us! |
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godane |
SketchCow: you maybe should move these to one of the cd collections: https://archive.org/details/@theloch |
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godane |
i'm checking the md5sums of those isos since i have those |
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godane |
they don't match |
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chazchaz |
http://www.archiveteam.org/?diff=26133&oldid=26130 |
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chazchaz |
oops |
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xmc |
hey chazchaz! been a while |
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chazchaz |
Yeah, this working full time has been keeping me pretty busy. |
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