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hook54321 |
*notices |
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SketchCow |
No |
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SketchCow |
On crap |
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SketchCow |
With a capital K |
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Frogging |
I hate Ctrl+Q |
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Frogging |
I keep closing my browser by accident |
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ErkDog |
lol |
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dashcloud |
this is an interesting article: http://www.theverge.com/2016/8/15/12482158/internet-lost-stuff-youtube-facebook-search (if you don't back up stuff, it may be impossible to find again when you think about it again) |
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DoomTay |
I've gone through that a handful of times |
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DFJustin |
irc logs are nice for that |
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SketchCow |
How did DoomTay get unblocked |
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04:17
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SketchCow |
http://www.mentalfloss.com/article/84742/introducing-misconceptions-our-brand-new-podcast |
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SketchCow |
https://archive.org/details/magazines_russian?&sort=-publicdate&page=1 is all chip magazine |
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DoomTay was kicked by SketchCow (DoomTay) |
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Frogging |
why did you ban DoomTay exactly? |
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SketchCow |
I really want to spend the time to explain it, but I did it before. |
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SketchCow |
And then he came back |
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SketchCow |
No apology, no discussion, just came back like, you know, he's owed being here |
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SketchCow |
And then kept being what he was |
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SketchCow |
And now he thinks this is just some place he can be |
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Frogging |
Well, ban evasion, yes. But I meant why in general |
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hook54321 |
I don't get it. Why was he banned in the first place? :P |
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SketchCow |
I realize I could sit here and recount, but I really just got up from a nap and I need to continue working |
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hook54321 |
I'll check the logs |
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SketchCow |
The FOS drive I'm trying to murder is down to 50% now. |
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hook54321 |
what channel did you explain it in? |
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Frogging |
i don't believe he did but it's fine, i was just curious |
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hook54321 |
Frogging: The first time I saw him banned was earlier today, is that accurate? |
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Frogging |
yeah |
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hook54321 |
Frogging: I'm guessing this was it? http://archive.fart.website/bin/irclogger_log/archiveteam-bs?date=2016-08-16,Tue&sel=173#l169 |
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Frogging |
mhm |
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hook54321 |
I'm guessing DoomTay didn't understand that it was an exaggeration. |
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hook54321 |
Exaggeration might not be the right word. |
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JesseW |
This probably helps explain the banning (note the timestamps): http://archive.fart.website/bin/irclogger_log_search/archiveteam-bs?search=SketchCow%3B+DoomTay&action=search&error=0 |
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JesseW |
particularly the first one (June 16th) |
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Frogging |
oh, I see. |
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JesseW |
yeah, this is not a sudden thing |
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hook54321 |
I don't exactly understand the context of the one from the 16th. |
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JesseW |
as i understand it, that was an initial "does anyone want to defend the value of this person being in this channel" request. |
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04:59
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hook54321 |
Has he been useful at all? |
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JesseW |
Yeah, he's suggested various useful things to archive, and grabbed some stuff himself, as I understand. |
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SketchCow |
Sigh |
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SketchCow |
Oh boy, I am going to enjoy the next 30 minutes of my life. |
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SketchCow |
In short: DoomTay is an incredibly talented person at deciding what is going on, and then reporting it to people as facts, and then holding to it, misinforming people, continually. |
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SketchCow |
Also tends to... wait for it.... demand explanations as to why everything is happening, bites newbies, jumps into conversations with no facts and keeps going, etc. |
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SketchCow |
Now, we have a few people like that, but DoomTay was and is continually doing so, and it's one of the personality types that can be really problematic in the Archive Team situation. |
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SketchCow |
Because we're a tiger team here, and someone jumping in with Non-Information can be really problematic when time or effort is of the essence. |
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SketchCow |
Now, most of our most productive people have either blocked/ignored DoomTay or written him off. |
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SketchCow |
But still, he's a real problem when he just. Won't. Shut. Up. |
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SketchCow |
A light example, but I made some joke about Twitter, because it was down. |
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SketchCow |
Twitter 12:05 < DoomTay> Now that I think about it, it's kinda hilarious that Jason somehow concluded Twitter was "dead" just because the site was having problems |
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SketchCow |
See, that's entirely not true. |
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SketchCow |
It's a joke, and he makes an assumption, and reports it. |
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SketchCow |
I'm not saying THIS case is something work kicking. I'm saying he does this ALL THE GODDAMMNED TIME |
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05:11
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SketchCow |
Am I now starting, sort of, to make it clear where this is coming from? |
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05:11
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SketchCow |
Sort of? |
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hook54321 |
He seems to have a few stereotypical mannerisms that someone with Asperger's Syndrome might have. |
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05:11
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SketchCow |
I can crawl through months of DoomTay transgressions, but I'd really need something like 14 wrists to slit |
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Frogging |
yeah, it made more sense after reading those logs |
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JesseW |
Makes plenty of sense to me, FWIW. (I don't consider myself one of the "most productive people", though) |
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hook54321 |
If I'm ever problematic like that or in another way, let me know. |
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SketchCow |
Oh, you are VERY productive |
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SketchCow |
With that overactive searching/verify skill |
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SketchCow |
That's actually an incredible hard skill |
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05:14
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SketchCow |
Especially for a volunteer |
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JesseW |
thank you |
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JesseW |
hook54321: I'll try to warn you if I notice anything (but I'm not sure I'd see it) |
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hook54321 |
I'm overactive about most stuff I care about (as long as I'm not lazy about it). However, that can make me incredibly persistent, and it can sometimes be seen as annoying. |
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swebb sets mode: +o SketchCow |
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Igloo^ |
I hope I don't come across as annoying |
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joepie91 |
SketchCow: would you look at this: https://bugs.chromium.org/p/chromium/issues/detail?id=129353#c58 |
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joepie91 |
and as I suspected, the twat is indeed working in the adblocking-blocking industry |
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Frogging |
joepie91: [plugin] are breaking core JS functionality |
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Frogging |
what the hell does that even mean |
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joepie91 |
Frogging: it means that an advertising industry twat is making make-believe arguments to further their own gaenda |
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joepie91 |
agenda* |
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Frogging |
ah. that's fun |
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joepie91 |
trying to make a plausible-sounding security argument to make it impossible to use the wrapper trick |
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joepie91 |
to block websocket ads |
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joepie91 |
while conveniently ignoring the fact that that means you just *can't block ads at all* |
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joepie91 |
which is of course beneficial to his job |
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joepie91 |
and all of that while not disclosing their position |
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joepie91 |
I seriously despise people like this |
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HCross2 |
Putting out another call for newsbuddy grabbers. We really want to shove more news in, but right now we don't have downloading capacity |
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joepie91 |
HCross2: what are the requirements? |
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HCross2 |
A decent bit of bw, and a ok CPU. All requirements get smaller with the more grabbers we have. |
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godane |
1982 of nasa docs are done |
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Frogging |
john@kitsune:~/notes$ sudo apt-get install emacs |
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Frogging |
After this operation, 184 MB of additional disk space will be used. |
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Frogging |
o.o |
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Frogging |
that's huge for a... text editor |
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DFJustin |
it's more of a way of life |
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joepie91 |
Frogging: it's an OS with text editing functionality |
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joepie91 |
:P |
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joepie91 |
HCross2: right, but in concrete numbers? |
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joepie91 |
HCross2: ballpark :P |
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HCross2 |
At the moment it's pegging my online.net xc at full CPU. |
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HCross2 |
Kaz: as well |
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joepie91 |
HCross2: hm. what's it using the CPU for? also, what are the disk/RAM requirements? |
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HCross2 |
Grab site, and the sheer number of crawls. Around 4gb ram and say 30gb disk |
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joepie91 |
ah, hm, that's quite a bit |
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joepie91 |
the RAM |
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HCross2 |
Can be done with less, it's probably less but I don't have access to a crawler right now to check |
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joepie91 |
HCross2: I can probably spare 2 gigs or so on my OVH box, and (part of) one CPU core... |
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joepie91 |
HCross2: however, it has a few reallocated sectors in the SMART data, so keep that in mind |
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joepie91 |
I might also have a few unused VPSes laying around with less RAM |
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joepie91 |
so depending on whether you can limit the amount of tasks that are handed out... |
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HCross2 |
CPU will be the factor. It all depends on how fast you return as it simply sends 2 tasks out an hour |
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Medowar |
HCross: sv1.ggsrv.de |
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Medowar |
*sv3.ggsrv.de |
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Medowar |
I am currently setting it up |
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HCross |
Awesome |
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HCross |
for disco or grab? |
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ErkDog |
HCross, you need grabz? |
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Medowar |
ErkDog: we need many grabz |
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HCross |
YES |
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Igloo^ |
I have new server coming for grabz |
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ErkDog |
Frogging are we going to grab ytmd?!?! |
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look in #archiveteam |
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The owner is planning to take it offline but wants it to be archived first |
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Awesome that he reached out to AT |