#archiveteam-bs 2016-08-19,Fri

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02:39 🔗 godane note : legal.gawker.com is legal.kinjia.com
02:40 🔗 godane also sitemap only has urls from 2013 and 2016
02:43 🔗 godane so up to morningafter.gawker.com based on that domain list
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06:00 🔗 hook54321 I just met dec3199 in the bib-anon discord channel. He seems honest. He said "I tried to revolt against them with swears (the only thing I could do behind a screen)"
06:13 🔗 xmc dec-31-99 created far more noise than was warranted from the amount of work they did
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06:51 🔗 SketchCow hahahah
06:51 🔗 SketchCow Now there's one from the rogue's gallery
07:02 🔗 * SketchCow just spent too much time on Amiga screenshots, which, truth be told, is not a bad way to spend too much time
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12:40 🔗 dxrt- sets mode: +o dxrt
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12:56 🔗 Sanqui relevant: https://twitter.com/gosokkyu/status/766615139906826240
12:56 🔗 Sanqui tangentially, that is
12:56 🔗 Sanqui but in spirit, absolutely :)
13:19 🔗 phuzion joepie91: Man, it's a small world. Just saw your "Why you should never, ever, ever use MongoDB" article referenced on a completely different IRC network, lol.
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13:20 🔗 joepie91 phuzion: heh, it's honestly probably one of the more likely things to run across
13:20 🔗 phuzion lol
13:20 🔗 joepie91 phuzion: that article went far and wide and it still gets cited regularly
13:21 🔗 joepie91 phuzion: and I consider this one the highlight: https://forums.meteor.com/t/im-done-with-mongodb-its-leaving-my-stack/9736
13:21 🔗 joepie91 tl;dr his customers no longer want mongo in part due to that article
13:22 🔗 phuzion I'm not horribly familiar with the Meteor community, is this guy some major Meteor rockstar or something?
13:37 🔗 phuzion joepie91: also: "I'm the guy that makes you go "jesus, this guy is everywhere" when you join some random IRC channel and see me idling there. Still not sure if this is a good or a bad thing."
13:47 🔗 joepie91 phuzion: nah, he's not - it's just written evidence that my article has caused presumably less-technical *customers* of developers to not want mongo anymore
13:47 🔗 phuzion Gotcha
13:47 🔗 joepie91 ie. evidence that the countermarketing worked beyond certain developer circles
13:47 🔗 joepie91 :P
13:47 🔗 phuzion lol
13:47 🔗 joepie91 and yes, I'm everywhere :P
13:47 🔗 joepie91 eeeeverywhere
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17:08 🔗 phuzion joepie91: valid point, once again
17:08 🔗 joepie91 phuzion: I've done some "talking to journalists" training in the past, for stuff like the local occupy camp, other activist-y things, etc
17:09 🔗 joepie91 as in, training people in it
17:09 🔗 phuzion Ah, good.
17:09 🔗 joepie91 especially wrt hostile journos who are looking to skew a story
17:09 🔗 joepie91 and it really makes a -big- difference
17:09 🔗 joepie91 we've had one particular reporter come to the occupy camp here and try to create a scandal
17:10 🔗 joepie91 and he got visibly frustrated when he couldn't get misquotable statements out of anybody
17:10 🔗 joepie91 they ended up airing very very little of their footage with nothing offensive :P
17:11 🔗 joepie91 (for in-person interviews, especially for hostile journos... never ever respond with single-word replies or multi-part responses - always make sure that every single answer you give is a fully self-contained answer in and of itself that can't be misrepresented by editing it)
17:11 🔗 Atluxity playing with fire can be fun
17:11 🔗 joepie91 (and it's better to pause and think, than it is to hurry and get stuck halfway through your sentence)
17:11 🔗 joepie91 Atluxity: :)
17:12 🔗 joepie91 honestly my journo training comes from my time on anonops, heh
17:12 🔗 joepie91 you had all kinds walking in there
17:12 🔗 joepie91 by the dozen
17:13 🔗 joepie91 thankfully there are also good journos that'll go to quite some lengths to represent things accurately and fairly
17:14 🔗 joepie91 lorenzo from motherboard/vice being one example :P
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17:15 🔗 joepie91 ernesto from torrentfreak as well - it's not an objective news source and it's very narrowly focused ofc, but he doesn't misrepresent statements or anything like that... he just comments on it very critically :P
17:15 🔗 joepie91 there's a few others like steve ragan etc that I've interacted with at some point
17:15 🔗 joepie91 that just do a good job
17:24 🔗 Smiley so my son did have pyloric stenosis
17:24 🔗 Smiley tha'ts fixed tho
17:24 🔗 Smiley andi got a new job from an interview in the middle of all this fun
17:25 🔗 Kaz Smiley: sounds nasty
17:25 🔗 Kaz hope he's okay!
17:27 🔗 Smiley hes recovering
17:27 🔗 phuzion joepie91: Steve's a good dude. I've chatted with him on twitter a handful of times.
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17:40 🔗 phuzion joepie91: PM?
17:40 🔗 joepie91 phuzion: sure, go ahead
17:41 🔗 joepie91 phuzion: It's Not Freenode
17:41 🔗 joepie91 :P
17:43 🔗 phuzion joepie91: Habit ;)
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19:42 🔗 whydomain Can anyone clarify why http://www.schematicsunlimited.com/ has been "excluded" from the wayback machine?
19:42 🔗 whydomain Seems like a good resource that claims to have 45GB+ of PDFs
19:42 🔗 Igloo^ We are not the Internet Archive
19:43 🔗 Igloo^ We don't know
19:44 🔗 whydomain OK, if I made a WARC / copy of it do you think that IA would accept it?
19:44 🔗 Igloo^ Probably
19:44 🔗 Igloo^ Then it might get removed again
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19:50 🔗 arkiver it won't be removed
19:51 🔗 arkiver It'll just not be available through the wayback machine
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19:52 🔗 HCross "darked"
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19:53 🔗 arkiver or that ^
19:57 🔗 joepie91 whydomain: sure, go ahead and upload it
19:57 🔗 joepie91 worst case there's a dark copy
19:57 🔗 joepie91 that will at least be complete
19:58 🔗 joepie91 (disclaimer; not IA either :P)
20:07 🔗 Kaz whydomain: http://www.schematicsunlimited.com/robots.txt
20:07 🔗 Kaz User-agent: ia_archiver
20:07 🔗 Kaz Disallow: /
20:13 🔗 arkiver lol
20:13 🔗 arkiver we should definitely grab it
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20:19 🔗 whydomain Do you want me to get it (not much free time for the next few weeks and a 3mbps connection could slow things down, but it's do-able) or is this something that you guys could put through archivebot?
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20:20 🔗 whydomain (I would just contact the owner and ask for a backup but there is no contact page and the domain uses WHOIS privacy guard)
20:21 🔗 HCross whydomain, try the whopis email, often they are a forwarder to the real users email
20:22 🔗 whydomain OK, will do (and report back if/when I get a reply)
20:30 🔗 arkiver remember, a backup will not be in the wayback machine
20:30 🔗 arkiver and I'm afraid will end up in some dark corner of IA where the average user won't look
20:30 🔗 arkiver I should say deep corner
20:31 🔗 arkiver I put it in archivebot
20:31 🔗 arkiver let's see how that goes
20:36 🔗 whydomain Great! I haven't emailled yet, so I'll wait to see if there is a problem with archivebot, and only then I'll email.
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21:22 🔗 SketchCow no corners are dark!
21:26 🔗 Atluxity let there be light!, he said
21:27 🔗 godane i'm uploading 2016-07 lifehacker.com sitemap urls
21:28 🔗 godane i'm also re-downloading screenburn.kotaku.com 2014 sitemap
21:28 🔗 godane cause of the power outage i have start that download over again
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22:15 🔗 ErkDog if I downloaded a site w/ HTTrack and tar.gz'd it up could that be put in IA?
22:17 🔗 Kaz pretty much anything can be put in the IA
22:17 🔗 xmc as to whether they can use it or not ..
22:17 🔗 Kaz I guess what you want is it to be in the wayback machine?
22:28 🔗 godane screenburn.kotaku.com is being uploaded
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22:29 🔗 godane only 2014 sitemap had urls
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