#archiveteam-bs 2016-08-22,Mon

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00:01 🔗 yipdw one sec
00:03 🔗 yipdw apt install virtualenv; virtualenv -p /usr/bin/python2.7 py2; . py2/bin/activate; pip install seesaw
00:03 🔗 yipdw that may work
00:03 🔗 yipdw Python 3 will work also
00:07 🔗 OpticalSw Also sorry but to be a bigger ahole. I have an issue with wget lua also -.-
00:08 🔗 OpticalSw Gonna use python 3
00:12 🔗 OpticalSw I give up
00:15 🔗 arkiver so what is the problem with wget lua
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00:19 🔗 OpticalSw Will sort it tomorrow is 1;20am and im out of redbull
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00:20 🔗 arkiver 2:20am and didn't even use redbull ;)
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00:25 🔗 OpticalSw Not bad then you need credit
00:29 🔗 yipdw to sort out the wget-lua issue, logs are useful
00:31 🔗 OpticalSw The autoheader issue
00:31 🔗 yipdw full log, please
00:32 🔗 OpticalSw https://ghostbin.com/paste/tpvst
00:33 🔗 yipdw was apt install autoconf run?
00:33 🔗 OpticalSw knowing me no
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00:35 🔗 OpticalSw Running wget-lua again
00:35 🔗 yipdw we have a README for this, as well
00:35 🔗 OpticalSw Ah Im reading the yahoo answers one
00:35 🔗 yipdw if you're running into autoconf issues you may be using code that hasn't had the configure scripts generated
00:35 🔗 yipdw the yahooanswers-grab one should work
00:35 🔗 OpticalSw new isse -.-
00:36 🔗 OpticalSw https://ghostbin.com/paste/arusb
00:36 🔗 OpticalSw *issue
00:38 🔗 yipdw I'll poke at that in a little bit, running other tasks at the moment
00:38 🔗 OpticalSw You want root login on the box?
00:38 🔗 yipdw in the meantime, the Warrior VM is pretty good if you want to get a quickstart
00:38 🔗 yipdw no
00:38 🔗 OpticalSw I can run warrior on OpenCVZ
00:38 🔗 OpticalSw *OpenVZ
00:39 🔗 OpticalSw *cant
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01:24 🔗 yipdw apparently if you want to enable different input methods under Kubuntu you're just somehow expected to know to install a package named "fcitx"
01:24 🔗 yipdw this is logical for someone I guess
01:25 🔗 JesseW fcitx sounds like a good curse word
01:26 🔗 yipdw then there's fcitx-anthy, which is an fcitx IME for the anthy IME
01:26 🔗 yipdw like all I want to do is use romaji to input Japanese, why is this like choosing a test framework for Ruby
01:26 🔗 JesseW YahooAnswers on the warrior doesn't seem to be working for me...
01:27 🔗 JesseW specifically, when I select it in the Warrior interface, nothing shows up under Current Project
01:28 🔗 JesseW it still shows the previously selected project (in my case, Orkut)
01:42 🔗 Frogging yipdw: for what it's worth, the author is Chinese. Maybe it makes more sense in Chinese :p
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01:54 🔗 yipdw Frogging: it doesn't
01:55 🔗 yipdw this also doesn't address the fact that there are a gazillion IME systems for Unixish things out there and there is no clear "install this if you just want to fucking use an IME" choice
01:57 🔗 yipdw like there's ibus and scim. ibus was developed because of some C++ ABI worries of scim. for some reason this is supposed to be a choice that gets surfaced to users
01:58 🔗 yipdw in any case, restarting X after installation seems to get things working
02:05 🔗 bwn OpticalSw, yipdw: i've hit that css.c error when building wget-lua, fixed for me by installing flex
02:06 🔗 tuankiet ^
02:06 🔗 tuankiet flex should be added as a dependency in the README
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04:41 🔗 JesseW looks like http://archiveteam.org/index.php?title=Yahoo!_Answers should be updated...
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06:06 🔗 ranma dang https://web.archive.org/web/20020123000429/http://mkv.musikvideos.net/
06:06 🔗 ranma the whole reason i came to IRC
06:06 🔗 ranma to find more musicvideos than usenet had
06:07 🔗 ranma RIP old sites
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06:11 🔗 ranma was Resume.IO lost?
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06:19 🔗 JesseW ranma: afaik
06:19 🔗 JesseW it was, yes
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08:31 🔗 bzc6p I'm updating the wiki. What is the casus belli for saving Yahoo Answers?
08:31 🔗 bzc6p Is it the Verizon sale?
08:32 🔗 Medowar yep
08:33 🔗 bzc6p Do we have a channel already for it?
08:35 🔗 Medowar I dont think so...
08:39 🔗 PurpleSym So far we’ve been using #flickrfckr
08:39 🔗 bzc6p for this project?
08:39 🔗 Medowar nah for flickr and #stumblr for tumblr
08:41 🔗 PurpleSym Yes, bzc6p. We should probably use a different one though.
08:42 🔗 bzc6p I'll just enter that channel for now then. Thanks for the info.
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08:59 🔗 midas #noanswers
09:00 🔗 bzc6p that's a good one
09:03 🔗 bzc6p I've added flickrfckr for now
09:30 🔗 SketchCow Berrrrrzap, back from my weekend.
09:30 🔗 SketchCow Doing Apple II floppy disk grabbing
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10:56 🔗 godane i put the last few pages of gawker.com into archivebot
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11:03 🔗 SketchCow Appreciated.
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11:11 🔗 godane SketchCow: btw i getting domains that not on the domain list
11:11 🔗 godane and also i have past the first 50 domains so far on that list
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11:22 🔗 Igloo^ For those looking at yahoo answers, Keep your concurrency low otherwise you get banned and get a 500 (printed in browser as error 999)
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11:33 🔗 godane metadata is completely wrong here: https://archive.org/details/mbc-radio-fm95.9-podcast
11:34 🔗 godane it korean MBC Radio not McLean Bible Church Sermons Podcast
12:17 🔗 arkiver Igloo^: is this ban permanent?
12:20 🔗 Igloo^ Not sure arkiver
12:20 🔗 Igloo^ I'll try again shortly
12:20 🔗 arkiver thanks
12:21 🔗 ErkDog yeah I discovered a while ago that doing concurrency too high on almost all the projects presents problems
12:21 🔗 Igloo^ Still active now which is ~60 minutes later
12:21 🔗 PurpleSym No, bans are not permanent.
12:21 🔗 Igloo^ I was only running 10 ErkDog, Which isn't even high for what I normally manage
12:21 🔗 Igloo^ How long are they for PurpleSym?
12:22 🔗 PurpleSym I’m not sure, but a few hours at most.
12:22 🔗 Igloo^ Yeah this one's been active ~1 hr
12:22 🔗 arkiver Shall I make this the default warrior project?
12:22 🔗 ErkDog Yeah but like FTP frequently has problem w/ concurrenty too high too
12:23 🔗 Igloo^ I'd be careful arkiver, I am not sure if the concurrency set to 6 (max in warrior) will be too high also.
12:23 🔗 arkiver yeah
12:23 🔗 PurpleSym For the discovery I waited 3 seconds between requests.
12:23 🔗 Igloo^ Or add a higher delay to the requests
12:23 🔗 ErkDog on my one system it keeps hanging up still :(
12:23 🔗 ErkDog https://puu.sh/qKcRr/b03776d844.png
12:24 🔗 arkiver I noticed that
12:24 🔗 arkiver it sometimes takes some time to get a response
12:24 🔗 arkiver but it should continue after a while
12:24 🔗 ErkDog https://puu.sh/qKcVw/98c3941334.png
12:24 🔗 ErkDog but it doesn't
12:24 🔗 ErkDog This one sat all night, didn't go
12:24 🔗 ErkDog I just restarted
12:25 🔗 ErkDog stuck again already
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15:20 🔗 bzc6p SketchCow: I'm sorry for your beard
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18:23 🔗 PurpleSym Wow, so much spam: https://archive.org/details/ourmedia?sort=-publicdate
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18:42 🔗 bzc6p JW_work: thanks for the suggestion of termbin.com, it's great
18:42 🔗 bzc6p better than I thought one could be
18:43 🔗 bzc6p However, they delete pastes after a month, I'll probably archive it continuously
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18:44 🔗 JW_work bzc6p: sure
18:45 🔗 JW_work you might check if they want to give you direct access — they might
18:46 🔗 bzc6p If they use a straightforward incremental pattern, it's easy enough
18:46 🔗 bzc6p and there is no bloat like with pastebin, just plain text
18:46 🔗 JW_work nods
18:48 🔗 yipdw_ pastebin-in-your-pocket
18:49 🔗 yipdw_ webapp running on your phone which has an IPv6 address and dyndns-ish functionality over bluetooth to your laptop
18:49 🔗 yipdw_ i have no idea if this is useful at all but it is something I'd use
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18:50 🔗 yipdw_ "dyndns-ish functionality..." is probably better phrased as "use zeroconf/bonjour"
18:50 🔗 yipdw_ well no that's a different thing, never mind
18:50 🔗 * yipdw_ shuts up
18:51 🔗 xmc that's upnp you're thinking of
18:51 🔗 yipdw_ yes
18:51 🔗 xmc which i looked into dealing with myself, until i realized it's SOAP over UDP
18:51 🔗 xmc => no no no no no
18:51 🔗 yipdw_ the use case here is "phone has a publicly routable IPv6 address, I want to get a useful name for it"
18:51 🔗 yipdw_ so however that can be done
18:51 🔗 xmc hm
18:52 🔗 yipdw_ anyway it just occurred to me that now we live in an era where programming network services doesn't have to be fraught with holy shit due to e.g. swift, rust, go
18:53 🔗 yipdw_ c++17 if your brain is more evolved than mine
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19:33 🔗 ErkDog termbin does look pimp
19:33 🔗 ErkDog bzc left :(
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19:47 🔗 yipdw_ speaking of C, am I missing something or is there really no correct way to printf a size_t value
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19:49 🔗 MrRadar yipdw: If you're using C99 or later you can use the 'z' argument type (e.g. "%zx" for hexadecimal)
19:50 🔗 MrRadar Otherwise you can just upcast to a 64-bit value and use the 64-bit argtype
19:51 🔗 yipdw_ oh
19:51 🔗 yipdw_ what the hell
19:51 🔗 yipdw_ %z eh
19:51 🔗 MrRadar You need to use it in combination with a format type (e.g. 'd', 'u', or 'z')
19:51 🔗 MrRadar *'x'
19:51 🔗 yipdw_ yeah
19:51 🔗 MrRadar http://en.cppreference.com/w/c/io/fprintf
19:52 🔗 MrRadar Has a big chart with all the different combos
19:52 🔗 yipdw_ I was looking for a useful way to do this portably on armhf and amd64
19:52 🔗 yipdw_ good to know it was fixed
19:58 🔗 yipdw_ MrRadar: cool, that works out well, thanks
19:58 🔗 MrRadar No problem
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21:37 🔗 MrRadar Martini--: I don't know if the IA allows directly links to files they host. They should be able to answer that question for you.
21:39 🔗 Martini-- MrRadar: If it is not allowed they should have it in print somewhere.
21:40 🔗 Martini-- "Direct Linking" is not a crime :)
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21:42 🔗 yipdw_ if you're going to direct link, make sure it's the archive.org/download/... link
21:42 🔗 yipdw_ files may move from host to host
21:48 🔗 Martini-- thanks @yipdw_
21:48 🔗 Martini-- I want to know that it is not against IA rules, just in case.
21:49 🔗 Martini-- I have a lot of things on my wiki that are linking directly some IA files.
21:51 🔗 yipdw_ I know Brewster Kahle has said many times that IA encourages access by all available means
21:51 🔗 yipdw_ I really don't think direct-linking is going to cause kerfuffle
21:52 🔗 yipdw_ unless your wiki is capable of saturating the IA pipes
21:54 🔗 Martini-- ...It is OS/2 documentation, I don't think it is going to happen :)
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22:15 🔗 divingk https://tcrf.net/Andro_Dunos
22:15 🔗 divingk I found one Neo Geo game with source code intact.
22:15 🔗 divingk Better than nothing.
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22:29 🔗 Martini-- Bye, thanks for the pointers.
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22:41 🔗 tomaspark I been downloading netnews/usenet, I surprised there are so many articles
22:42 🔗 tomaspark I'm even impressed that people still use them
22:47 🔗 divingk Well, there is Google Groups.
22:50 🔗 godane https://archive.org/details/www.blairwitch.com-20151029
22:50 🔗 godane i saved that close to a year ago
22:50 🔗 godane i think it looked like a old 1999 website
22:55 🔗 divingk It probably is/was.
22:55 🔗 divingk After all, that is the site for the Blair Witch Project.
22:56 🔗 divingk So many promotional websites for movies alone have been lost to time.
22:58 🔗 godane i was thinking it would have change cause of the new 'Blair Witch' movie
22:59 🔗 godane it just embeds the youtube video for the new movie now
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