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godane |
so fun times |
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i'm running proxychains to grab computerworld magazine now from google books |
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godane |
google books ban my ip after downloading 3 magazines |
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there is no way for me fix that |
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midas |
godane: tor? |
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i tried tor but i couldn't get it working |
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i'm using proxychains right now |
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dxrt |
Might be worth going after some of the government websites in the Philippines.. Duterte has/is being pretty crazy about how the country is run. |
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is there a way to backup steam games directly from the server? |
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ranma |
or is anyone already doing that? |
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reason being: http://www.polygon.com/2016/10/10/13236998/skyrim-special-edition-system-requirements-pc |
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not sure if it's going to ruin ENB for users |
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or if it's going to be a seperate game on the list |
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Shakespea |
Hi |
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Shakespea |
I was wondering if I could ask about why I am currently unable to acces #archiveteam |
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Shakespea |
No objections, but it seems that a ban was placed back in 2014 over some misunderstandings |
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Shakespea |
I was wanting to talk with archivers because I was wanting to determine if someone had kept an archive of now dead web-site that is missing from archive.org due to robots.txt |
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Shakespea |
I will also note that my former login at the wiki (Sfan00_IMG) is also apparently blocked, which means I am not currently able to contribute or open a disscusion there |
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Shakespea |
(My understanding was the the blocks/bans existed due to some misunderstandings back in 2014, when I was attempting to get potentially get some donations of archive sites |
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Shakespea |
For some reason in an outgoing e-mail, I mannged to make a really bad slip when typing and manged to substitute a word with a completly different one from the one I actually intended. |
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Shakespea |
Despite sending an apology to all parties in good faith, it seems that this precipitated the current situation |
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Shakespea |
Having had at least 2 years to reconsider, I'd like to participate in discussion on archival efforts. |
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Shakespea |
( As I'm not seeing any responses, I am assuming that I am quieted here.) |
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HCross2 |
Or that we don't respond instantly |
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Shakespea |
Hi |
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Shakespea |
I was in earlier , but my connection dropped out |
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Shakespea |
Can you hear me ok? |
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atrocity |
yeah, but you must sing a sonnet |
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Shakespea |
Which one do you want? |
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Shakespea |
;) |
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Shakespea |
Wikisource has a few |
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Shakespea |
as does PG |
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Shakespea |
I was in here earlier to try and figure out why a former account got blocked |
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Shakespea |
Currently Sfan00_IMG (my old account) can't contribute ont the Archie Teamm wiki because it's blocked |
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Shakespea |
The reasons for that block have never been explained |
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Shakespea |
And given that it's been 2 years, I'm still slightly puzzled |
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Shakespea |
The only contribution was to start a page for USENET archiving |
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Shakespea |
I suspect though the the block was a reaction to some misunderstandings (my end) and a miskey of the worst kind in an e-mail that I apologised for at the time :) |
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Shakespea |
However, 2 years is a long time |
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Shakespea |
and a fuller explanation would perhaps clear up the misunderstandings? |
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Shakespea |
On something else entirly, it's a shame the NSA can't share it's archive of sites XD |
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Shakespea |
(Some of which have some intresting thoughts on cryptography) |
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Shakespea |
I won't name the admin that imposed the wiki block here, but they know who they are, and I would encourage them to get in touch with me |
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Shakespea |
In any event - I was wanting to suggest someone put this file up on archive.org at some point - http://8bs.whelks.com/pool/8bs-pd-pool.zip |
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Shakespea |
The standard Wayback machine doesn't as far as I know capture zip files that aren;t otherwise page linked. |
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PurpleSym |
SketchCow is the admin in question, but he won’t like your long monologue ;) |
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arkiver |
be short and clear |
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Shakespea |
PurpleSym: Well I am not querying thier decision, just trying to figure out why. |
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Shakespea |
As I said, at the time there may have been some serious misunderstandings |
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arkiver |
wait for SketchCow |
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Frogging |
yep |
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Shakespea |
Okay.. |
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Shakespea |
Nobody minds if I talk about other things in the meantime? |
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Frogging |
depends if they're relevant :p |
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Shakespea |
Would a large archive of 8 Bit computing magazines be? - Some of which aren't in the Archive.org collection |
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Frogging |
Sure |
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Shakespea |
Let me find the e-mail |
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Shakespea |
Frogging - http://8bs.whelks.com/beebug.shtml for example has links to an almost complete run |
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Shakespea |
of Beebug which was for it's 12 or so years a very influential magazine with respect to computing in the UK |
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Frogging |
Cool, thanks. arkiver put it in ArchiveBot |
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Shakespea |
The site itself (with covers) should be on wayback already , because I delibrately asked the site operator for the link (which they set up specfically for mirroring purposes) |
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Shakespea |
The link I gave earlier was the software pool the site maintained for BBC Micro and related systems (including buried within it certain support discs which are otherwise hard to find) |
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Shakespea |
The software pool is not on Wayback because as I explained it wasn't linked from any of the web pages the site operator had placed for mirroing purposes whenn I saved them. |
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Shakespea |
The original site is still maintained and ocassionaly gets updates |
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Shakespea |
Frogging : Let me check something... |
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Shakespea |
Frogging : http://8bs.whelks.com/othrdnld.shtml seems to be a master download of everything on the site circa 2013 |
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Shakespea |
The original site is 8bs.com , but for bandwidth reasons, it's not mirrored directly... |
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Shakespea |
The main front page being here - http://www.8bs.com/ |
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Shakespea |
Frogging: Another site in computing history terms is http://mdfs.net/ |
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Shakespea |
which also has some hard to find support files :) |
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Shakespea |
(Sorry to go on) |
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Shakespea |
And finally - https://bb4w.wikispaces.com/ |
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arkiver |
thanks for the links |
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Shakespea |
(This is a site that could dissaper, because the maintainer themselves has raised concerns about hosting charges.) |
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Shakespea |
arkiver: You wouldn't happen to have archived a site called patternschool.com? |
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arkiver |
see top of http://dashboard.at.ninjawedding.org/ |
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arkiver |
no |
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Shakespea |
arkiver: Thanks... You might need to do a couple of passes :) |
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arkiver |
what passes |
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arkiver |
not sure what you mean |
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Shakespea |
Sometimes the mirror server cuts out , meaning you need to download a file twisce |
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Shakespea |
to be sure of getting all of it |
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arkiver |
right |
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Shakespea |
Another site - https://www.gov.uk/guidance/traffic-sign-images Massive database of offical UK Traffic Signs |
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Shakespea |
(I hop you don;t mind me posting these) |
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Shakespea |
https://www.gov.uk/government/publications/traffic-signs-working-drawings-tsrgd-2002 - Previous UK traffic signs - This should be on wayback as I saved |
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Shakespea |
https://www.gov.uk/government/collections/traffic-signs-signals-and-road-markings |
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Shakespea |
arkkiver : This major site may also be of interest - http://parlvid.mysociety.org/os/ but I'm not sure how it's set up |
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Shakespea |
It's a mirror of most of the 'freely' licensed OS map data |
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Shakespea |
You won't get better 'free' maps of the UK , unless you run OpenStreetMap... |
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Shakespea |
Speaking of which... |
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Shakespea |
http://ftp5.gwdg.de/pub/misc/openstreetmap/planet.openstreetmap.org/ is mirror of OpenStreetmap planet.osm dumps which gets update regularly... |
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Shakespea |
(Not sure if your bot can be told to grab new files at a regular interval.) |
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Shakespea |
Okay I think I've overloaded you enough for now |
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Frogging |
heh |
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Shakespea |
Okay 4 final entries - http://www.paula8364.com/ |
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Shakespea |
http://www.6581-8580.com |
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Shakespea |
www.hvsc.c64.org/ (but it seems to be offline right now) |
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Shakespea |
http://remix.kwed.org/ |
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Shakespea |
And I am done :) |
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Shakespea |
I have 4 more sites to suggest, but those can wait :) |
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Shakespea |
Frogging: It's a shame there isn't a wayback machine equivalent for capturing USENET posts |
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Shakespea |
Only Google Groups does it wholescale and it's UI make me puke :( |
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Shakespea |
Presuambly a script to capture the whole of USENET every 24 hours isn't beyond the realms of possibility? |
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Shakespea |
Given it's what most NNTP servers do |
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yipdw |
there's http://www.theusenetarchive.com/ |
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Shakespea |
Hmm |
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Shakespea |
Thanks |
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Shakespea |
Paid for site :( |
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Shakespea |
I.e the charge for access |
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Shakespea |
Understandable, but USENET should be free |
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Shakespea |
:( |
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yipdw |
I suppose once storage grows on trees and maintenance costs nothing that will be a possibility |
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yipdw |
if you live in a place where at least the former is true, please do consider setting up an export business |
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xmc |
sounds good |
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Shakespea |
I'm suprised archive.org ( which Archiveteam is not affiliated) with wasn't running it's own USENET capture scripts |
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yipdw |
in the meantime, there are bits and pieces of newsgroups on IA |
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Shakespea |
They may of course now be running capture scripts, but I hadn't heard anything |
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Shakespea |
Naturally there's a complete archive somewhere in a blanked out office building in Fort Merrick :( |
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Shakespea |
(Which of course isn't public) |
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xmc |
Shakespea: i'm mentioning this before it becomes an issue. you are talking a lot more than anyone else in here. |
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Shakespea |
xmc: You want me to shut up? |
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arkiver |
^ |
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xmc |
i didn't say that |
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yipdw |
IA has pretty good archives up to around 2014, and there's other bits and pieces |
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but you may wish to consider putting the brakes on |
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yipdw |
https://archive.org/search.php?query=usenet&sort=-date |
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yipdw |
https://archive.org/search.php?query=usenet&sort=-publicdate |
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yipdw |
er https://archive.org/search.php?query=usenet |
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Shakespea |
xmc: noted... |
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yipdw |
as for why they're not doing their own incremental archiving effort I don't know, but I can guess it has something to do with the rest of https://archive.org/projects/ |
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FAMAS |
this user asserts the fact that without assistance from every possible users, the archiveteam will never be able to find all the dying sites in time to save them |
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arkiver |
shut up |
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arkiver |
go away |
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arkiver |
talk normal |
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arkiver |
ass |
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arkiver |
seriously |
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lol |
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Smiley |
FAMAS: correct, so? |
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schbirid |
dont feed them |
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FAMAS |
however, in the event that the conversational mode of a user becomes a bigger issue than the offers of assistance, it is a different matter entirely, user schbirid |
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Smiley |
a user who wastes more time 'conversing' than saving is not worth conversing with. |
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arkiver |
err |
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schbirid |
they were around and banned before |
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schbirid |
just move on |
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arkiver |
whut |
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Smiley |
lol pming me, lame |
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Shakespea |
Thank you for archiving :) |
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arkiver: Just checked the dashboard |
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so google books is still blocked for me |
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looks like pogoplug is now going into full metldown: https://twitter.com/search?f=tweets&vertical=default&q=pogoplug&src=typd |
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