[00:18] *** closure has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 244 seconds) [00:20] *** closure has joined #archiveteam-bs [00:33] *** tuankiet has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 244 seconds) [00:35] *** ravetcofx has quit IRC (Read error: Operation timed out) [00:36] *** kristian_ has joined #archiveteam-bs [00:44] *** ravetcofx has joined #archiveteam-bs [00:45] *** tuankiet has joined #archiveteam-bs [00:59] *** JesseW has joined #archiveteam-bs [01:12] *** BartoCH has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 260 seconds) [01:19] *** slyphic has quit IRC (Read error: Operation timed out) [01:21] *** slyphic has joined #archiveteam-bs [01:22] *** DiscantX has quit IRC (Read error: Operation timed out) [01:31] *** bsmith093 has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 370 seconds) [01:35] *** RichardG_ is now known as RichardG [01:36] *** bsmith093 has joined #archiveteam-bs [01:46] *** alfie has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 260 seconds) [01:54] *** w0rp has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 244 seconds) [01:55] *** w0rp has joined #archiveteam-bs [02:00] *** alfie has joined #archiveteam-bs [02:02] *** kristian_ has quit IRC (Quit: Leaving) [02:14] so fun times [02:15] i'm running proxychains to grab computerworld magazine now from google books [02:15] google books ban my ip after downloading 3 magazines [02:16] there is no way for me fix that [03:35] *** RichardG_ has joined #archiveteam-bs [03:37] *** RichardG has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 250 seconds) [03:53] *** BartoCH has joined #archiveteam-bs [03:59] *** ndiddy has quit IRC (Read error: Connection reset by peer) [04:37] *** Meroje has quit IRC (Quit: bye!) 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[08:10] i tried tor but i couldn't get it working [08:10] i'm using proxychains right now [08:10] hmm [08:13] *** superkuh_ has joined #archiveteam-bs [08:14] *** superkuh has quit IRC (Read error: Operation timed out) [08:33] *** GE has joined #archiveteam-bs [08:33] *** bsmith093 has joined #archiveteam-bs [08:39] *** Sk1d has quit IRC (hub.se irc.du.se) [08:49] *** Sk1d has joined #archiveteam-bs [09:17] *** GE has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection) [10:21] Might be worth going after some of the government websites in the Philippines.. Duterte has/is being pretty crazy about how the country is run. [10:51] is there a way to backup steam games directly from the server? [10:51] or is anyone already doing that? [10:52] reason being: http://www.polygon.com/2016/10/10/13236998/skyrim-special-edition-system-requirements-pc [10:52] not sure if it's going to ruin ENB for users [10:53] or if it's going to be a seperate game on the list [11:05] *** GE has joined #archiveteam-bs [11:52] *** DiscantX has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 632 seconds) [11:54] *** GLaDOS has quit IRC (Quit: Oh crap, I died.) [11:56] *** GLaDOS has joined #archiveteam-bs [11:58] *** Shakespea has joined #archiveteam-bs [11:58] Hi [11:59] I was wondering if I could ask about why I am currently unable to acces #archiveteam [12:00] No objections, but it seems that a ban was placed back in 2014 over some misunderstandings [12:01] I was wanting to talk with archivers because I was wanting to determine if someone had kept an archive of now dead web-site that is missing from archive.org due to robots.txt [12:02] I will also note that my former login at the wiki (Sfan00_IMG) is also apparently blocked, which means I am not currently able to contribute or open a disscusion there [12:04] (My understanding was the the blocks/bans existed due to some misunderstandings back in 2014, when I was attempting to get potentially get some donations of archive sites [12:07] For some reason in an outgoing e-mail, I mannged to make a really bad slip when typing and manged to substitute a word with a completly different one from the one I actually intended. [12:07] Despite sending an apology to all parties in good faith, it seems that this precipitated the current situation [12:08] Having had at least 2 years to reconsider, I'd like to participate in discussion on archival efforts. [12:09] ( As I'm not seeing any responses, I am assuming that I am quieted here.) [12:32] *** Shakespea has quit IRC (Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.92 [Firefox 49.0.1/20160922113459]) [12:38] Or that we don't respond instantly [12:43] *** Stiletto has joined #archiveteam-bs [12:46] *** Stilett0 has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 250 seconds) [12:46] *** Stilett0 has joined #archiveteam-bs [12:49] *** Stiletto has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 370 seconds) [12:51] *** atrocity has joined #archiveteam-bs [12:52] *** BlueMaxim has quit IRC (Quit: Leaving) [13:21] *** JesseW has joined #archiveteam-bs [13:33] *** JesseW has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 370 seconds) [14:01] *** luckcolor has quit IRC (Quit: http://quassel-irc.org - Chat comfortably. Anywhere.) [14:02] *** luckcolor has joined #archiveteam-bs [14:11] *** zino has joined #archiveteam-bs [14:17] *** Shakespea has joined #archiveteam-bs [14:19] *** ravetcofx has joined #archiveteam-bs [14:20] *** Start has quit IRC (Quit: Disconnected.) [14:24] Hi [14:24] I was in earlier , but my connection dropped out [14:24] Can you hear me ok? [14:36] yeah, but you must sing a sonnet [14:36] Which one do you want? [14:36] ;) [14:36] Wikisource has a few [14:36] as does PG [14:37] I was in here earlier to try and figure out why a former account got blocked [14:38] Currently Sfan00_IMG (my old account) can't contribute ont the Archie Teamm wiki because it's blocked [14:38] The reasons for that block have never been explained [14:39] And given that it's been 2 years, I'm still slightly puzzled [14:39] The only contribution was to start a page for USENET archiving [14:41] I suspect though the the block was a reaction to some misunderstandings (my end) and a miskey of the worst kind in an e-mail that I apologised for at the time :) [14:42] *** RichardG has joined #archiveteam-bs [14:42] However, 2 years is a long time [14:42] and a fuller explanation would perhaps clear up the misunderstandings? [14:43] *** RichardG_ has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 250 seconds) [14:46] On something else entirly, it's a shame the NSA can't share it's archive of sites XD [14:46] (Some of which have some intresting thoughts on cryptography) [14:48] I won't name the admin that imposed the wiki block here, but they know who they are, and I would encourage them to get in touch with me [14:50] In any event - I was wanting to suggest someone put this file up on archive.org at some point - http://8bs.whelks.com/pool/8bs-pd-pool.zip [14:50] *** sep332 has joined #archiveteam-bs [14:50] *** Stiletto has joined #archiveteam-bs [14:50] The standard Wayback machine doesn't as far as I know capture zip files that aren;t otherwise page linked. [14:51] SketchCow is the admin in question, but he won’t like your long monologue ;) [14:51] be short and clear [14:51] PurpleSym: Well I am not querying thier decision, just trying to figure out why. [14:51] *** Stilett0 has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 370 seconds) [14:52] *** BartoCH has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 260 seconds) [14:52] As I said, at the time there may have been some serious misunderstandings [14:52] wait for SketchCow [14:52] yep [14:53] Okay.. [14:53] Nobody minds if I talk about other things in the meantime? [14:53] depends if they're relevant :p [14:54] Would a large archive of 8 Bit computing magazines be? - Some of which aren't in the Archive.org collection [14:55] Sure [14:55] Let me find the e-mail [14:55] *** BartoCH has joined #archiveteam-bs [14:56] Frogging - http://8bs.whelks.com/beebug.shtml for example has links to an almost complete run [14:56] of Beebug which was for it's 12 or so years a very influential magazine with respect to computing in the UK [14:57] Cool, thanks. arkiver put it in ArchiveBot [14:58] The site itself (with covers) should be on wayback already , because I delibrately asked the site operator for the link (which they set up specfically for mirroring purposes) [14:58] The link I gave earlier was the software pool the site maintained for BBC Micro and related systems (including buried within it certain support discs which are otherwise hard to find) [14:58] *** Stilett0 has joined #archiveteam-bs [14:59] The software pool is not on Wayback because as I explained it wasn't linked from any of the web pages the site operator had placed for mirroing purposes whenn I saved them. [15:00] The original site is still maintained and ocassionaly gets updates [15:00] Frogging : Let me check something... [15:01] Frogging : http://8bs.whelks.com/othrdnld.shtml seems to be a master download of everything on the site circa 2013 [15:01] *** Stiletto has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 246 seconds) [15:01] The original site is 8bs.com , but for bandwidth reasons, it's not mirrored directly... [15:01] The main front page being here - http://www.8bs.com/ [15:02] Frogging: Another site in computing history terms is http://mdfs.net/ [15:02] which also has some hard to find support files :) [15:02] (Sorry to go on) [15:03] And finally - https://bb4w.wikispaces.com/ [15:03] *** JesseW has joined #archiveteam-bs [15:03] thanks for the links [15:04] (This is a site that could dissaper, because the maintainer themselves has raised concerns about hosting charges.) [15:04] arkiver: You wouldn't happen to have archived a site called patternschool.com? [15:05] see top of http://dashboard.at.ninjawedding.org/ [15:05] no [15:05] arkiver: Thanks... You might need to do a couple of passes :) [15:06] what passes [15:06] not sure what you mean [15:06] Sometimes the mirror server cuts out , meaning you need to download a file twisce [15:06] to be sure of getting all of it [15:06] right [15:07] Another site - https://www.gov.uk/guidance/traffic-sign-images Massive database of offical UK Traffic Signs [15:07] (I hop you don;t mind me posting these) [15:08] https://www.gov.uk/government/publications/traffic-signs-working-drawings-tsrgd-2002 - Previous UK traffic signs - This should be on wayback as I saved [15:08] https://www.gov.uk/government/collections/traffic-signs-signals-and-road-markings [15:10] arkkiver : This major site may also be of interest - http://parlvid.mysociety.org/os/ but I'm not sure how it's set up [15:10] It's a mirror of most of the 'freely' licensed OS map data [15:10] You won't get better 'free' maps of the UK , unless you run OpenStreetMap... [15:10] Speaking of which... [15:11] http://ftp5.gwdg.de/pub/misc/openstreetmap/planet.openstreetmap.org/ is mirror of OpenStreetmap planet.osm dumps which gets update regularly... [15:11] (Not sure if your bot can be told to grab new files at a regular interval.) [15:12] Okay I think I've overloaded you enough for now [15:15] heh [15:16] Okay 4 final entries - http://www.paula8364.com/ [15:16] http://www.6581-8580.com [15:16] www.hvsc.c64.org/ (but it seems to be offline right now) [15:17] http://remix.kwed.org/ [15:17] And I am done :) [15:19] I have 4 more sites to suggest, but those can wait :) [15:23] *** superkuh_ has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection) [15:24] *** superkuh has joined #archiveteam-bs [15:25] Frogging: It's a shame there isn't a wayback machine equivalent for capturing USENET posts [15:25] Only Google Groups does it wholescale and it's UI make me puke :( [15:30] Presuambly a script to capture the whole of USENET every 24 hours isn't beyond the realms of possibility? [15:30] Given it's what most NNTP servers do [15:33] there's http://www.theusenetarchive.com/ [15:36] Hmm [15:36] Thanks [15:37] Paid for site :( [15:38] I.e the charge for access [15:38] Understandable, but USENET should be free [15:38] :( [15:40] I suppose once storage grows on trees and maintenance costs nothing that will be a possibility [15:40] if you live in a place where at least the former is true, please do consider setting up an export business [15:40] sounds good [15:41] I'm suprised archive.org ( which Archiveteam is not affiliated) with wasn't running it's own USENET capture scripts [15:41] in the meantime, there are bits and pieces of newsgroups on IA [15:41] They may of course now be running capture scripts, but I hadn't heard anything [15:42] Naturally there's a complete archive somewhere in a blanked out office building in Fort Merrick :( [15:42] (Which of course isn't public) [15:43] Shakespea: i'm mentioning this before it becomes an issue. you are talking a lot more than anyone else in here. [15:43] xmc: You want me to shut up? [15:43] ^ [15:43] i didn't say that [15:43] IA has pretty good archives up to around 2014, and there's other bits and pieces [15:43] but you may wish to consider putting the brakes on [15:43] https://archive.org/search.php?query=usenet&sort=-date [15:44] https://archive.org/search.php?query=usenet&sort=-publicdate [15:44] er https://archive.org/search.php?query=usenet [15:44] xmc: noted... [15:45] as for why they're not doing their own incremental archiving effort I don't know, but I can guess it has something to do with the rest of https://archive.org/projects/ [15:45] *** RichardG has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 370 seconds) [15:46] *** RichardG has joined #archiveteam-bs [15:53] *** RichardG_ has joined #archiveteam-bs [15:56] *** RichardG has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 260 seconds) [15:57] *** RichardG has joined #archiveteam-bs [16:00] *** RichardG_ has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 370 seconds) [16:26] *** BartoCH has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 260 seconds) [16:28] *** BartoCH has joined #archiveteam-bs [16:32] *** BartoCH has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 260 seconds) [16:40] *** JesseW has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 370 seconds) [16:40] *** Shakespea has quit IRC (Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.92 [Firefox 49.0.1/20160922113459]) [16:45] *** schbirid has quit IRC (Quit: Leaving) [16:46] *** Aranje has joined #archiveteam-bs [16:58] *** schbirid has joined #archiveteam-bs [17:22] *** FAMAS has joined #archiveteam-bs [17:26] this user asserts the fact that without assistance from every possible users, the archiveteam will never be able to find all the dying sites in time to save them [17:37] shut up [17:37] go away [17:37] talk normal [17:37] ass [17:38] seriously [17:38] lol [17:39] FAMAS: correct, so? [17:39] dont feed them [17:39] however, in the event that the conversational mode of a user becomes a bigger issue than the offers of assistance, it is a different matter entirely, user schbirid [17:40] *** arkiver sets mode: +b FAMAS!~kvirc@103.60.175.36 [17:40] a user who wastes more time 'conversing' than saving is not worth conversing with. [17:40] err [17:40] they were around and banned before [17:40] just move on [17:40] *** arkiver sets mode: +b FAMAS!*@* [17:41] whut [17:41] lol pming me, lame [17:41] *** FAMAS was kicked by arkiver (ass) [17:54] *** midas has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 250 seconds) [17:55] *** midas has joined #archiveteam-bs [18:00] *** Medowar1 has quit IRC (Quit: Ping timeout (120 seconds)) [18:17] *** atrocity has quit IRC () [18:19] *** BartoCH has joined #archiveteam-bs [18:19] *** Stilett0 has quit IRC () [18:43] *** j08nY has joined #archiveteam-bs [18:44] *** RichardG has quit IRC (Read error: Operation timed out) [18:45] *** RichardG has joined #archiveteam-bs [18:53] *** Shakespea has joined #archiveteam-bs [18:53] Thank you for archiving :) [18:57] arkiver: Just checked the dashboard [18:57] *** Stiletto has joined #archiveteam-bs [19:24] *** Shakespea has left [19:24] *** Stiletto has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 370 seconds) [20:04] *** schbirid has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection) [20:28] *** schbirid has joined #archiveteam-bs [20:52] *** brayden has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 633 seconds) [21:21] *** j08nY has quit IRC (Quit: Leaving) [21:32] *** sep332 has quit IRC (konversation out) [21:41] so google books is still blocked for me [21:46] *** schbirid has quit IRC (Quit: Leaving) [21:51] *** JW_work1 has joined #archiveteam-bs [21:51] *** JW_work has quit IRC (Read error: Connection reset by peer) [22:26] *** DiscantX has joined #archiveteam-bs [22:57] *** BlueMaxim has joined #archiveteam-bs [23:40] *** ndiddy has joined #archiveteam-bs [23:41] looks like pogoplug is now going into full metldown: https://twitter.com/search?f=tweets&vertical=default&q=pogoplug&src=typd [23:44] *** GE has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection) [23:59] *** JesseW has joined #archiveteam-bs