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08:29 🔗 joepie91 iso9660 is a curious format
09:11 🔗 joepie91 https://gist.github.com/joepie91/ddbf10bbee587191e427bee6d5e4242f \o/
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09:54 🔗 joepie91 suddenly, the ability to read ISO metadata over HTTP without downloading the entire ISO: https://gist.github.com/joepie91/ddbf10bbee587191e427bee6d5e4242f
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12:03 🔗 luckcolor joepie91: that's very neat, are you planning in releasing it?
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12:10 🔗 Shakespea Afternoon
12:10 🔗 Shakespea Is there a formal process for suggestings sites be archived?
12:11 🔗 Shakespea (as indicated the other day I can't propose stuff on the Wiki)
12:14 🔗 Shakespea My next recomendation would have been - http://www.hvsc.de/
12:15 🔗 Shakespea (which seems to ffrom time to to time have server issues)
12:15 🔗 joepie91 luckcolor: naturally :)
12:15 🔗 joepie91 Shakespea: generally speaking, small stuff goes into archivebot
12:15 🔗 joepie91 Shakespea: how big is that site?
12:16 🔗 joepie91 luckcolor: I'll probably be releasing it in a few parts... 1) a sort-of-spec for seekable resources (which is the pluggable backend thing that lets me do the over-HTTP thing), 2) the iso9660 parsing library (which suipports any seekable resource), and 3) a spider that indexes all ISOs in IA's CD-ROM collection
12:17 🔗 joepie91 luckcolor: interesting tidbit: theoretically it's possible to add a torrent backend as well, relatively easily, using torrent-stream...
12:17 🔗 Shakespea joepie91: in terms of 'visible' only about halff the size of a CD-ROM , but I'm not sure what else is archived away
12:18 🔗 joepie91 oh, should be easily possible then
12:18 🔗 joepie91 hold on
12:18 🔗 joepie91 eh, maybe not
12:18 🔗 Shakespea I count under 200MB as small
12:18 🔗 Shakespea 200MB to 1GB as moderate
12:18 🔗 Shakespea and anything over 1GB as large
12:19 🔗 joepie91 goddamnit
12:19 🔗 joepie91 JS crap
12:19 🔗 Shakespea Anything over 40GB I count as insanely huge :0
12:19 🔗 joepie91 Shakespea: anything <10GB is tiny for archivebot purposes
12:19 🔗 joepie91 :p
12:19 🔗 joepie91 anyway, the JS is a problem
12:19 🔗 joepie91 archivebot will choke on this
12:19 🔗 Shakespea The site is using JS links?
12:19 🔗 Shakespea Bother
12:19 🔗 joepie91 yep
12:20 🔗 joepie91 hm
12:20 🔗 joepie91 okay, seems it's progressively enhanced actually
12:20 🔗 Shakespea Looks like I'll have to manually save copies in Wayback then
12:20 🔗 joepie91 so it might work
12:20 🔗 joepie91 let
12:20 🔗 joepie91 let's have a try... *
12:20 🔗 joepie91 Shakespea: see http://dashboard.at.ninjawedding.org/
12:20 🔗 joepie91 yeah, seems to work
12:21 🔗 Shakespea ( The parent site of c64.org also has issues, but that site is INASANEly massive)
12:21 🔗 joepie91 Shakespea: how massive is massive?
12:21 🔗 Shakespea Over 10GB if you include all the media I think
12:22 🔗 arkiver :P
12:22 🔗 joepie91 meh, that's small by our metrics :P
12:22 🔗 joepie91 sites of several hundred GB are not unusual
12:22 🔗 arkiver our current main project is 200 to 300 TB ;)
12:22 🔗 joepie91 arkiver: well yeah, but that's not archivebot
12:22 🔗 joepie91 I'm just talking about archivebot
12:22 🔗 joepie91 :p
12:22 🔗 arkiver ah right
12:22 🔗 joepie91 arkiver: also, did you see my gist above?
12:23 🔗 * Shakespea goes back to idle
12:23 🔗 arkiver It's not so much the size of a website in bytes that might be a problem
12:23 🔗 arkiver it's more the number of pages
12:23 🔗 arkiver afaik
12:23 🔗 joepie91 (it's both)
12:23 🔗 arkiver joepie91: I don't think so?
12:23 🔗 arkiver (the gist(
12:24 🔗 arkiver )
12:24 🔗 joepie91 arkiver: [11:54] <joepie91> suddenly, the ability to read ISO metadata over HTTP without downloading the entire ISO: https://gist.github.com/joepie91/ddbf10bbee587191e427bee6d5e4242f
12:24 🔗 joepie91 more recent follow-up: https://gist.github.com/joepie91/db580d0742b7281456e5fa72dba31358
12:24 🔗 arkiver ah, missed it
12:24 🔗 arkiver nice!!
12:25 🔗 arkiver That's going to be super handy when archiving iso's
12:27 🔗 * Shakespea revives
12:28 🔗 Shakespea arkiver: Did you comment in the EU consultation on copyright reform?
12:28 🔗 Shakespea (Apparently there were some groups lobbying for archives to have greater freedom to pre-cache stuff.)
12:30 🔗 arkiver no
12:31 🔗 joepie91 hmm, this is weird. I'm not sure whether this is a bug in my code or just a really weird ISO: https://i.imgur.com/gwfY2Sc.png
12:31 🔗 joepie91 one directory entry per 2KB sector is a bit... weird
12:32 🔗 Shakespea joepie91: Copy protection?
12:32 🔗 joepie91 that would be both ineffective and inefficient
12:32 🔗 joepie91 :P
12:32 🔗 joepie91 anyway, time to investigate
12:32 🔗 joepie91 this is why I installed a hex editor beforehand, heh
12:33 🔗 Shakespea Speaking of copy protection, I have an OLD CD I can';t know run because the copy protection is Windows only
12:33 🔗 Shakespea (9x). Do archive team people support efforts to regain access to legally purchased content? XD
12:34 🔗 Shakespea joepie91: I will also note some Dorling Kindersley CD's , had a LOT of duplicated directory structure for performance reasons
12:36 🔗 * Shakespea goes back to idling
12:37 🔗 joepie91 Shakespea: so it seems like it's... both
12:37 🔗 joepie91 it's a really weird ISO in that it does one sector per directory
12:37 🔗 joepie91 and a directory sometimes really does have one file
12:37 🔗 joepie91 ... but my code also has a bug :P
12:37 🔗 joepie91 ref https://i.imgur.com/QxnAnb4.png
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12:43 🔗 joepie91 I don't think this is using a standard format...
12:46 🔗 joepie91 Shakespea: archivebot job completed
12:50 🔗 PurpleSym sets mode: +o arkiver
12:53 🔗 joepie91 ahhh I'm a moron
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14:48 🔗 joepie91 arkiver: luckcolor: success! https://gist.githubusercontent.com/joepie91/4dba508979b4207db49c7361a3b5740e/raw/b284bc056a68bd5bc05178066c77787755ed4125/.txt
14:48 🔗 joepie91 I can now index ISOs on IA without ever fully downloading them
14:48 🔗 joepie91 :P
15:00 🔗 joepie91 luckcolor: arkiver: work so far: https://git.cryto.net/joepie91/iso-spider (ISO parsing stuff in lib/iso9660)
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15:56 🔗 DFJustin sweeeeet
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17:42 🔗 luckcolor amazing work! :P
17:42 🔗 luckcolor joepie91:
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