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ranma |
consumer "mastering" tool? |
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ranma |
e.g. nero, cdrwin, etc? |
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ranma |
cdjuggler |
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ranma |
i can't even think of the other/big ones |
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ranma |
adaptec? |
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joepie91 |
ranma: there's a lot of them |
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joepie91 |
not consumer ones either |
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joepie91 |
I'm talking about like, SimCity |
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joepie91 |
Linux ISOs |
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joepie91 |
etc |
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joepie91 |
(actual Linux ISOs, not euphemistic ones) |
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jsp12345 |
Interesting data source joepie... do you have to install the software to get the data you are looking for or do you parse the raw structure? |
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joepie91 |
http://www.nongnu.org/lzip/xz_inadequate.html - "Xz format inadequate for long-term archiving" |
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joepie91 |
jsp12345: parsing the images directly |
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SketchCow |
joepie91: Agreed, CDs turn out to be bullshit |
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SketchCow |
Written at drivers, not specs |
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SketchCow |
If the driver read it we're done here |
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SketchCow |
Fuck you linux people and your later drivers |
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joepie91 |
pretty much - it feels like CD-ROM mastering tools were written by just mashing bits together until it worked on the test rig |
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joepie91 |
which... is probably not too far from the truth |
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SketchCow |
I talked with someone who used a mastering rig to do a CD-ROM in... 89? Ish? |
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SketchCow |
it was pretty crazy. $12,000 rig |
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SketchCow |
A lot of that being able to put 640mb in one place, of course |
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joepie91 |
heh |
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joepie91 |
$12k seems relatively cheap for a mastering rig in that time |
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joepie91 |
then again, the $ was worth more |
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jsp12345 |
Were the blanks like normal cds? |
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joepie91 |
seems like that'd equate about $23k today |
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20:49
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joepie91 |
further ISO 9660 complaint: spec is so verbose that it often mentions the same jargon term 4-5 times in a single paragraph, yet it fails to specify whether length fields are in bytes or sectors |
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DFJustin |
have you gotten into old high sierra stuff at all |
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joepie91 |
ha |
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joepie91 |
no |
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joepie91 |
that's pre-spec |
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joepie91 |
so I imagine it to be worse |
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SketchCow |
It's worse |
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21:20
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SketchCow |
Making a rough master is super hard. Most of the time people did it to DLT tapes |
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SketchCow |
Or tapes |
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dashcloud |
here's a tool that supposedly lets you make audio cd masters: http://ddp.andreasruge.de/ |
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godane |
i only think cds at the time was like a way to do a full backup of bbs servers |
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godane |
or servers in general |
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SketchCow |
No, but good thoughts |
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SketchCow |
CD-ROMs had huge initial uses as distribution methods for government and libraries for reference materials |
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SketchCow |
It's really a complicated, crazy thing |