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joepie91 |
what the actual fuck? https://twitter.com/OmanReagan/status/805792428795928576 |
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joepie91 |
on a less incendiary note, recommended read concerning use and criticism of open-source software: https://medium.com/@thejameskyle/dear-javascript-7e14ffcae36c (cc yipdw?) |
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yipdw |
joepie91: yeah, can attest to all of that |
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nicolas17 |
that seems to apply 100% to systemd |
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yipdw |
very OT, but if there's anyone in here who knows of a way to use socat (or whatever) to combine one ro and one rw serial port into a single rw serial port, that'd be cool |
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yipdw |
I'm working with a really bizarre board |
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yipdw |
maybe two socats |
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Frogging |
probably because systemd tries to be all things to all people, which never really works |
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yipdw |
systemd maintainership seems like what happens when you have a very vocal minority and the maintainer goes full-on fuck-all-yall |
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yipdw |
lose-lose dynamics |
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yipdw |
i'm sure at some level there's some people who really need to care about init systems. sometimes I do when I'm preparing system loadout. but that's like 1? 5? percent of everything I do and the other 90ish who cares |
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yipdw |
anyway, this is a thread that can't possibly go anywhere constructive |
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nicolas17 |
as opposed to the maintainer burning out from the criticism, as mentioned in that article |
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joepie91 |
(I'm refraining from comment for the same reason :P) |
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yipdw |
going into fuck-all-yall mode is a burnout manifestation in my experience |
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yipdw |
I've been there |
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yipdw |
it's not a very *good* way to manage burnout |
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yipdw |
like, you keep working because you have some other input (e.g. money) but your response to suggestions just becomes increasingly unhinged |
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SketchCow |
I just took a nice e-mail from someone who is suicidal and miserable and refuses to help with my projects anymore |
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SketchCow |
(not an archiveteam guy) |
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SketchCow |
Offering support, etc |
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SketchCow |
But it's quite obvious he has turned nearly 40 and has some other vision of the last 20 years |
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Asparagir |
SketchCow: :-( |
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godane |
so i'm bought 1 month access of the Rush Limbaugh website |
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Kaz |
You saved �5.00 (1.54%) from original listing price �325.00 |
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Kaz |
gotta keep an eye on them deals |
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Frogging |
clap clap |
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godane |
so looks like i can get 10 years worth of Rush Limbaugh shows |
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godane |
starts in june 2005 |
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hook54321 |
wget all of them |
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hook54321 |
@godane |
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HCross |
I have another "download this awkward video" challenge - https://www.supremecourt.uk/watch/uksc-2016-0196/051216-am.html this time |
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hook54321 |
So... my high school has blocked access to web.archive.org |
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hook54321 |
what should I do now? |
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HCross |
complain to your headmaster. Currently doing something similar with a UK phone network |
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hook54321 |
It's listed as a proxy on OpenDNS... Anyone know a way to get them to remove that? |
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hook54321 |
https://domain.opendns.com/web.archive.org |
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HCross |
email info@ |
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godane |
hook54321: thats the plan |
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godane |
i also have a script to do the downloading of them |
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godane |
since i downloaded all of glenn beck show which has the same url types |
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hook54321 |
Is it illegal for schools to block religious or political material? |
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Lord_Nigh |
not sure. i think for public schools probably and private schools no |
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hook54321 |
Could I argue that they can't block web.archive.org because it contains religious/political material that can't be found elsewhere? |
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Frogging |
I'd just set up a VPN at home or on one of my servers. that's what I did in high school :p |
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nicolas17 |
I think the only time I used a VPN was on my phone during a security conference :P |
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Frogging |
well technically my setup was an SSH tunnel but yeah |
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Frogging |
I use such things on connections that have bothersome filters |
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ae_g_i_s |
why would it be illegal for them to block anything? not arguing for blocking, but i can't think of a law that prevents it |
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ae_g_i_s |
constitution only says that the government can't pass a law that'd block them, afaik |
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DFJustin |
schools run by the government are covered too, although courts allow more leeway in terms of restricting children and youth access to things |
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Frogging |
it's probably not a battle worth fighting in this case |
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DFJustin |
https://www.aclu.org/feature/dont-filter-me-web-content-filtering-schools |
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DFJustin |
filtering software often blocks archive.org because otherwise you can use the wayback machine to get around the filtering completely, so it's understandable if lame |
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SketchCow |
It is absolutely legal for schools to block anything they want |
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SketchCow |
(US Schools) |
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SketchCow |
It has been determined in lots of legal cases (I actually got an A in this whole subject, one of my few) that public schools have a whole range of tools regarding censorship, lack of property rights, and so on, in the names of being wards of the kids. |