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I've never seen a robots.txt I hate more in my life. http://web.archive.org/web/20170113080957/http://www.1up.com/robots.txt |
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powerKitt |
:# Internet Archive generates us no value." |
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powerKitt |
*"# Internet Archive generates us no value." |
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powerKitt |
Fuck right off 1UP.com |
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ae_g_i_s |
they're a known abusive net ^^ |
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ae_g_i_s |
don't expect anything from them |
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ae_g_i_s |
IIRC their abuse contact doesn't even exist, it returns the 'no such user' message (i had to send them one after they hosted spammers) |
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pizzaiolo |
oh wow |
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pizzaiolo |
archived anyway |
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pizzaiolo |
http://archive.fart.website/archivebot/viewer/?q=www.1up.comhttp://archive.fart.website/archivebot/viewer/?q=www.1up.com |
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rocode |
I always love that thought process. "I don't see a point to it, so literally the entirety of humanity shouldn't either." |
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rocode |
Like that dns history site. "Instead of putting the service up for a week so it can have its contents recorded into history, I will instead assert my will by enabling anti-bot protections until the day I delete it permanently." |
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rocode |
"Oh, and put a quip on the frontpage about what assholes Archive Team is, so that way my users know to avoid them when in 10 days I am shutting this service down for good." |
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pizzaiolo |
lol |
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pizzaiolo |
github is down |
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pizzaiolo |
good thing our internet infrastructure isn't centralized... oh wait |
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Muad-Dib |
pizzaiolo: "DOWN? HOW IS THIS POSSIBLE?! IT WAS HOSTED *IN THE CLOUD*" |
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schbirid2 |
CLOUDS DONT SINK |
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Aoede yells at cloud |
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pizzaiolo |
'clouds don't sink' may as well the silicon valley's official ideology motto |
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rocode |
GitHub is such a stupid idea. Tons of websites, frameworks, and languages depend on it with no graceful failover capability. |
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Muad-Dib |
rocode: I have a time machine: s/GitHub/SourceForge/ |
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rocode |
God, SourceForge, literally the prime example of what happens with overcommercialization of open source as a service. The fact that some major projects are still hosted on it kills me. |
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rocode |
Taken by the same company that killed SlashDot. |
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Frogging |
I thought the new management was actually making an effort to get their act together |
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pizzaiolo |
https://mako.cc/writing/hill-free_tools.html |
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Frogging |
after the downhill slide the site experienced prior to them taking over |
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Muad-Dib |
You know the people who put crapware installers in sold it again because they realised they fucked up and didn't want to take the fall? |
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afaik the new owners are pretty okay |
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Frogging |
yeah |
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but the damage is already done |
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rocode |
^ |
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Muad-Dib |
Now it's mainly useful fro projects that stuck with them through all the bullshit |
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Muad-Dib |
for* |
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Muad-Dib |
and also as an archive of older F(L)OSS projects |
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Frogging |
perhaps, but it's unfair to say that the site is still a terrible place, despite their reputation. |
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Frogging |
Also I don't think GitHub itself is a stupid idea, but blind reliance on it definitely is |
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Frogging |
Fortunately, Git is decentralized by design, to the point that it's self-archiving every time someone clones it |
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rocode |
arkiver, is crapp.net to on the nose? |
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arkiver |
no |
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rocode |
#crapp.net |
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arkiver |
never heard of crapp.net |
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arkiver |
oh |
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arkiver |
nvm |
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rocode |
:P |
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Frogging |
is that the project name? I approve :p |
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rocode |
I am just here for the punny channel names tbh. Archiving is secondary. |
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schbirid2 |
yeah yeah git is dgtiny part of what is github though |
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schbirid2 |
is, etc... |
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schbirid2 |
issues, wikis, etc |
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whydomain |
Trello is being acquired by Atlassian |
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rocode |
Yep. |
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whydomain |
(Didn't post in main channel because they "will continue operating as a standalone service") |
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whydomain |
I love the *typical* start: "Today we’re excited to announce a new chapter in Trello’s story, and a new chapter for the story of the future of work." |
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rocode |
Trello has proven a pain in the ass to backup btw. Card archive (the bulk of the data) seems to not paginate nicely. |
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rocode |
Bunch of shit is being deleted in march it seems. |
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rocode |
(not trello, just in general) |
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xmc |
march 31 is the end of the first fiscal quarter of 2017 |
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xmc |
things tend to die right at the end of quarters |
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Atlassian doesn't tend to kill things do they? |
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rocode |
They tend to put things behind paywalls and pricing tiers. |
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rocode |
Bitbucket is the only example of that not happening. |
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oh, yeah. that's true |
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zino |
Atlassian is usually decent people I think. Guess: They will probably try to monetise it more, but probably by offering Jira integrating and better ties into their existing kanban tools. |
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hook54321 |
!a https://twitter.com/JazzJennings__/ --phantomjs --phantomjs-scroll 60000 --igset twitter |
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hook54321 |
oops |
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whydomain |
Have we ever looked at www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/ ? |
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whydomain |
Proudly proclaims "4.1 Million Articles archived" on the front page, and yet these articles are blocked by robots.txt |
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whydomain |
(why would you do that?) |
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whydomain |
Oh, wow, it's 10PB... I guess I'll have to hope it stays up! |
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jaysus |
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whydomain |
(Note: all the data - I think all, anyway - is listed in this FTP: ftp.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov) |
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ae_g_i_s |
confirming all the stuff about atlassian above. if you want, i can ask an employee of a...reseller? consultant-company-for-atlassian-products? if they know anything (though i doubt it, atlassian usually doesn't communicate THAT openly in advance in my experience) |
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pizzaiolo |
chrome users: https://blog.archive.org/2017/01/13/wayback-machine-chrome-extension-now-available/ |
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ae_g_i_s |
archiving the multiverse might require more exotic data structures than we're used to :D |
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rocode |
pizzaiolo, is there a git repo or something we can get the plugin binaries from, for those of us with a chromium like browser without google webstore capability? |
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godane |
just steal a quantum computer from one of them |
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pizzaiolo |
sorry no idea |
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rocode |
Closest I could find was this: https://github.com/internetarchive/ChromeNoMore404s but it is 3 years old. |
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godane |
so i'm up to 2016-03-31 with medium.com sitemap dumps |
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godane |
only about 9 months more to go |
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