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Somebody2 |
HCross2 bwn : I'm going to generate a list of identifiers in the old identifer lists that aren't in the current one, for the census. |
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bahramras |
Hi everyone |
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Frogging |
bahramras: this is the channel where more lengthy discussions take place, #archiveteam is more of an announcement channel |
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bahramras |
I'm trying to join Archive team |
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bahramras |
WHAT FORSOOTH, PRITHEE TELL ME THE SECRET WORD |
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Frogging |
also, Archive Team doesn't have a formal registration procedure. The wiki is just the wiki, you don't need an account on there to participate in Archive Team projects |
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Frogging |
and you don't have to keep saying that also |
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bahramras |
oh ok I got you |
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Frogging |
you don't need a wiki account unless there's something you want to edit on the wiki :) |
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bahramras |
thanks for reply |
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bahramras |
no I don't |
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Frogging |
what do you want to do with Archive Team? |
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bahramras |
since imdb closed their message board |
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bahramras |
for movie discussion |
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Frogging |
yep http://archiveteam.org/index.php?title=The_Internet_Movie_Database |
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bahramras |
thanks |
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Frogging |
lol |
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Sanqui |
wat |
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schbirid2 |
trying discimagecrator in virtualbox with win7+ie vm, does not seem to work |
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schbirid2 |
This drive can't read a data sector at scrambled mode |
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schbirid2 |
Please start it again at plextor drive (PX-708, 712, 716, 755, 760 etc) |
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schbirid2 |
it IS a 755 drive |
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schbirid2 |
maybe i need drivers? |
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schbirid2 |
(yes i used passthrough) |
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schbirid2 |
alcohol errors too |
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schbirid2 |
samw without passthrough |
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Aoede |
Is 7z good for archiving? |
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schbirid2 |
depends |
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schbirid2 |
it does not preserve metadata of files |
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Aoede |
I'm mostly worried about data corruption |
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Aoede |
For zip there's recorvery tools etc |
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MrRadar |
Aoede: I read a blog post a while ago criticizing the design of the LZMA compression scheme used by 7z for its poor design with respect to data corruption |
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Aoede |
MrRadar: hmm... Looks like I'll stick with zip for now, thanks! |
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MrRadar |
Yeah, probably a good bet |
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MrRadar |
I'm trying to find it again to confirm my memory |
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MrRadar |
Found it: http://www.nongnu.org/lzip/xz_inadequate.html |
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t2t2 |
I prefer zpaq, it has error detection and decent compression with sensible memory usage |
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JAA |
MrRadar: I only skimmed through that article, but it seems that most of the points raised there are specific to xz. Although both xz and 7z use LZMA, the container formats are different. The checksum not protecting the variable field length (2.5), for example, is a container problem. |
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joepie91 |
http://www.rtlnieuws.nl/nederland/gemeentearchief-waalre-gered-van-enorme-brand |
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joepie91 |
in 2012, the city hall burned down after being hit by two cars, but the archive survived because it was in a fireproof room |
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joepie91 |
after that, the archive was moved to a separate building |
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joepie91 |
which caught fire today |
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joepie91 |
and the news article is a bit unclear, but seems to claim that "part of the archive has been saved" |
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joepie91 |
something something archives burn |
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zino logs in and the first he hears is "archive caught fire today" |
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MrRadar |
Reminds me of how the US Patent Office lost all their files in the early 1800s because they were storing them in a temporary location while they were waiting for a new fire-proof brick building to be constructed |
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zino |
Which arechive are we talking about here? |
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zino |
archive* |
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MrRadar |
http://www.rtlnieuws.nl/nederland/gemeentearchief-waalre-gered-van-enorme-brand |
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zino |
ty |
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MrRadar |
(The temporary location caught fire, if that wasn't clear) |
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ZizzyDizz |
Anyone here know of anyways to search for dead youtube videos now that google has put a robot.txt rule in place and I can nolonger filter results to youtube videos? |
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username1 |
lol, jamendo now requires signup for album download |
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username1 |
fuck them |
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schbirid |
heeeyyyy midas ^ |
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pizzaiolo |
fuck them indeed |
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Aoede |
t2t2: zpaq looks good, I've used lrzip w/ zpaq but it takes forever to compress. |
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godane |
SketchCow: we are up to 2008-12-31 with NPR Morning Edition |
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godane |
i'm starting to upload 2009 mp3s right now |
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godane |
SketchCow: i just want to let you know your pdfs you uploaded for Computer Gaming World are still marked as derivative |
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godane |
not original |
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godane |
based on files xml: https://archive.org/download/Computer_Gaming_World_Issue_4.5/Computer_Gaming_World_Issue_4.5_files.xml |
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godane |
looks like network world 1998-01-18 was really 1988-01-18 |
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jtn2 |
http://sarking.tumblr.com/post/158532413345/why-is-ao3-making-archiving-more-difficult / https://twitter.com/morgandawn6/status/843293251113123840 has Organization for Transformative Works people wondering why archive.org isn't archiving their site |
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jtn2 |
http://www.archiveteam.org/index.php?title=Organization_for_Transformative_Works notes a restrictive robots.txt |
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jtn2 |
Worth contacting them? |
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Somebody2 |
jtn2: Yes, PLASE send an email to info@archive.org about that. It likely just fell through the cracks, but that's why sending another email is a good idea. |
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Somebody2 |
OK, looking at the twitter post, it looks like it has gotten somewhat more contact. I'll still poke a few more people, though. |
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nightpool |
Somebody2: context on the AO3 thing--they came into the channel a few weeks ago, and we told them that their robots.txt file was blocking wayback. |
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nightpool |
didn't hear back from them imo |
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nightpool |
jtn2 & |
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nightpool |
s/imo/iirc |
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Somebody2 |
nightpool: hm -- the error isn't a robots.txt one, though; it's a manual exclusion, that they need to resolve by contacting IA (which they say they have been doing). |
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JensRex |
God damn it. DO just shut down my hypervisor for ~45 minutes. |
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JensRex |
Unannounced. |
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ivan |
heh yes DO is not very good unless you really need to be in one of their DCs in particular |
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ivan |
they have a DDoS detector that will drop you from the net for 3 hours (possibly repeatedly) if someone floods with ~1gbit for a few seconds |
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ivan |
definitely not advice for those beyond the reach of USG: do that to every IP on their netblock briefly |
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JensRex |
The control panel said the hypervisor was down for maintenance. |
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ivan |
my DO VM kept hanging due to a bad host machine so I just created another one and lucked out |