#archiveteam-bs 2017-04-03,Mon

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00:01 🔗 iSO Can't find it at the moment.
00:02 🔗 iSO There are 2 additional limitations of Appshopper.
00:03 🔗 bwn JAA: not sure, but it visited /{all,ipad,universal,mac}/reference
00:03 🔗 bwn for instance
00:03 🔗 iSO One is that for some unexplainable reason, apps do not get recorded and appear on Appshopper.
00:04 🔗 iSO I'm looking at my database of iOS games to fetch examples.
00:06 🔗 iSO Ah, here it is: https://itunes.apple.com/us/app/cubes-brain-teaser/id1195780835
00:06 🔗 iSO There is no such page on Appshopper at all.
00:06 🔗 iSO The only other game it can be found as determined by Appshopper is http://appshopper.com/games/digit-conquer
00:07 🔗 iSO If you look under "Other Apps by zPower Software FZE", the game "Cubes : brain teaser" doesn't appear at all!
00:12 🔗 iSO Another example: https://itunes.apple.com/app/rise-free/id1206130260
00:12 🔗 iSO Can't find at Appshopper as well.
00:24 🔗 iSO One other limitation of Appshopper is that through some trial and error, I think certain pages are not archived on their website because apps are released anything that not under "United States".
00:24 🔗 iSO Or English, or something, it's a bit hazy on how it works but I came across these things.
00:35 🔗 iSO This is the absolute example of what I'm talking about: https://itunes.apple.com/TH/app/id1050551131?mt=8
00:37 🔗 iSO When you change "th" (it's not case sensitive) to something like https://itunes.apple.com/us/app/id1050551131?mt=8 or https://itunes.apple.com/jp/app/id1050551131?mt=8 - it doesn't exist, because it's not released in that country.
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00:39 🔗 iSO It's like someone at the company forgot to release it worldwide instead of that one country (as far as I know).
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00:46 🔗 JAA Or they can't release it outside a certain jurisdiction for legal reasons.
00:47 🔗 JAA But yeah, you'll only be able to get a complete, comprehensive archive of all apps in all countries for $$$$$$$.
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00:49 🔗 iSO When finding "Dragon Encounter" on Appshopper, it's not found. Going into http://appshopper.com/games/dragon-encounter manually shows that this game is delisted, but the game clearly exists on that page I linked earlier, but under country "th".
00:50 🔗 iSO I want to say that Appshopper failed to recognize that the game exists, and removes the "delisted" mark, but it seems to be muddled in that when clicking "Buy" to go thru referal link gives me https://itunes.apple.com/us/app/apple-store/id1080905142?mt=8 - whereas the one I found is https://itunes.apple.com/th/app/id1050551131?mt=8
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00:59 🔗 iSO That's all the limitations of Appshopper that I know of.
00:59 🔗 iSO I'm saying this as someone who doesn't have an account, as I'm not sure if it opens up a lot more if you use an account.
01:25 🔗 iSO All the info I can give so far, that's my proposal on perpetual archiving of Appshopper's app pages (new and updates, unsure about price changes). There's a lot of quirks to mind when handling Appshopper.
01:25 🔗 iSO Oh yeah!
01:25 🔗 iSO One other thing, app developers can request their apps to not be listed on their website.
01:29 🔗 iSO Or that's what I think it was checking http://appshopper.com/copyright-agent/ again
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02:54 🔗 nightpool How long does it normally take for something to show up on archive.fart.website/archivebot/viewer/ ?
02:57 🔗 Somebody2 nightpool: a couple of days or so
02:57 🔗 nightpool Ah, thanks
02:57 🔗 Somebody2 it has to be uploaded to IA, then the viewer has to index it
02:58 🔗 nightpool yeah. How long does it take archivebot stuff to make it into IA?
02:58 🔗 Somebody2 a couple of days or so :-)
02:58 🔗 nightpool and is there any additional delay betweeen it getting derived and it going onto the wayback machine?
02:58 🔗 nightpool I'm trying to test if vines with --youtube-dl will get archived properly.
02:58 🔗 Somebody2 there are a lot of sources of delay :-)
03:00 🔗 Somebody2 If it isn't in the Wayback Machine within a week, I think that would be an unusual delay -- but I'm not sure.
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07:08 🔗 godane so i found a way to auto rename the mp4s for tagesschau 20-clock evening news
07:09 🔗 godane but they suck at put right info for dates on the pages sometimes
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07:29 🔗 godane anyways march of 1994 episodes of tagesschau is going up
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14:48 🔗 JAA My WunderBlogs grab is done. :-)
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20:05 🔗 rocode What is the preferred compression for uploading to IA, zip or .tar.gz?
20:06 🔗 xmc zip
20:06 🔗 xmc unless you have special circumstances
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20:31 🔗 K4k rocode: thanks for the heads up. I was unaware of this channel
20:33 🔗 * xmc grumbles that it's in the #archiveteam channel topic
20:34 🔗 rocode xmc, who do we need to talk to for a warrior project setup?
20:35 🔗 xmc i'm not sure who's done it recently. look in the archiveteam github for creators of recent projects?
20:35 🔗 rocode Normally I ping arkiver but I haven't seen him around. :P
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21:04 🔗 JAA An update on my Mininova grab: 780k done, currently 11k queued, but that's nowhere near the actual number. I'm skipping some pages which don't contain additional information so I can at least get all the torrent descriptions and .torrent files in time.
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21:05 🔗 JAA I'm currently at 62.5k .torrents downloaded, 64.7k discovered. Should be similar for the descriptions.
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21:06 🔗 JAA (Out of 72055 total according to the website's statistics page)
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21:12 🔗 pnJay Sorry if i have been connection spamming, windows went weird on me
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21:25 🔗 pnJay save me tom cruise x.x
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23:23 🔗 godane so NewsActive3 youtube channel is over +137gb
23:24 🔗 godane i'm still not done downloading it
23:25 🔗 arkiver hi rocode
23:25 🔗 arkiver I'm available
23:25 🔗 pnJay arkiver, we need your assistance in bringing all the boys to the yard.
23:26 🔗 rocode arkiver, we need a project for http://archiveteam.org/index.php?title=MLKSHK
23:26 🔗 arkiver having a look at it
23:26 🔗 rocode Closure date is April 6th/7th, but it can technically die at any time. Posts were frozen on April 1st.
23:28 🔗 arkiver do we know if post IDs are incremental? https://mlkshk.com/p/QUHG
23:28 🔗 arkiver looks like it
23:29 🔗 arkiver it's incremental, all digits and capital letters
23:30 🔗 arkiver I'll get something going
23:30 🔗 arkiver do we have a channel?
23:30 🔗 pnJay #totheyard
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