#archiveteam-bs 2017-04-04,Tue

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02:26 🔗 godane so i found a youtube user saved a ton of WABC and WCBS from march 1993 6pm news broadcast
02:52 🔗 * Somebody2 is grumpy about UNESCO's Open Access policy...
02:53 🔗 Somebody2 They license all the *text* they write under CC BY-SA -- but they don't *distribute* files consisting of only that text.
02:54 🔗 Somebody2 Instead, they distribute files *ALSO* including various graphics and images from others, *NOT* licensed under any open license.
02:54 🔗 Somebody2 Thereby making it impossible for others to legally mirror what they distribute!
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03:29 🔗 pikhq Or at least, highly impractical.
04:01 🔗 Somebody2 yes, impossible to use the license they automatically grant
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06:09 🔗 hook54321 Yik Yak is probably going to shut down soon! We need to find a way to archive stuff from it soon.
06:10 🔗 nyany that's that silly app for posting anonymous notes about your local area right?
06:11 🔗 hook54321 Yeah. They also have a Regional section and some other stuff.
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09:21 🔗 godane so i'm manually grab the RedEye Magazine
09:22 🔗 godane from chicago tribune
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11:15 🔗 godane so i found a way to grab the RedEye Magazine
11:16 🔗 godane i just had to login using facebook then run httpfox when downloading a pdf
11:16 🔗 godane you can some api.readoz.com urls
11:17 🔗 godane the first /download/ url has the authorization data in it
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12:11 🔗 godane so i found a way to grab all the readoz.com ids for a channel
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14:40 🔗 Nume hello~
14:41 🔗 Nume [17:35] <arkiver> I guess give webarchiveplayer some time [17:35] <arkiver> 140 GB is big [17:36] <arkiver> you can also browse it in the wayback machine
14:41 🔗 arkiver hi
14:41 🔗 Nume so about this
14:41 🔗 arkiver #archiveteam is more for announcements
14:41 🔗 Nume oh I see
14:41 🔗 Aoede Nume: I might be able get the stories for you
14:41 🔗 hook54321 arkiver: this is #archiveteam-bs
14:41 🔗 arkiver yes
14:42 🔗 arkiver (see #archiveteam)
14:42 🔗 Nume Aoede, really?
14:42 🔗 Nume I would be so grateful
14:42 🔗 hook54321 oh, nvm
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14:57 🔗 rocode Nume, where did you get the WARC file?
14:59 🔗 Nume archive.org
15:01 🔗 rocode I was more checking to see if I was the uploader, in which case I could help you out. :)
15:01 🔗 rocode Also note that any WARC file properly uploaded on archive.org will show up in the WayBack Machine.
15:02 🔗 nightpool (unless robots.txt or otherwise excluded, right?)
15:03 🔗 nightpool (or am I mistaken about that?)
15:03 🔗 rocode Correct. robots.txt will exclude.
15:04 🔗 Aoede I got this
15:04 🔗 Nume Aoede already agreeded to help me find the stories I needed, but thank you a lot for your help as well!
15:05 🔗 nightpool I'm more asking for my own benefit, but yeah
15:05 🔗 Nume I might be but wrong but I think robots.txt blocked fanfiction
15:05 🔗 Nume if that's the correct term even, I am a bit confused by this whole web archive thing ^^
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15:14 🔗 rocode r/PLACE snapshots are now added: https://archive.org/details/PLACE-SNAPSHOTS
15:14 🔗 nightpool yooooo. that's cool
15:15 🔗 rocode I am also working on a datafile that tracks diffs, since a lot of devs/artists are using the snapshots for cool things.
15:19 🔗 Aoede very cool. Reminded me of Drawball
15:19 🔗 Kaz diffs would be awesome
15:19 🔗 Kaz Any idea if reddit plans to release the raw data?
15:20 🔗 rocode No, but I have 10 second snapshots being uploaded next that diff data was drawn from.
15:20 🔗 rocode So that is probably the best we are going to get.
15:20 🔗 Kaz ah i see, awesome
15:21 🔗 K4k hook54321: I asked around a little and unfortunately Yik Yak does not have a public API we could use for archiving them. Going to have to find another way.
15:32 🔗 nightpool Woah, wait, what's going on with yik yak?
15:33 🔗 nightpool Also, don't messages on Yik Yak disappear quickly anyway? It's good to grab a snapshot but I'm not sure how much there is there to archive.
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16:20 🔗 xmc they disappear after a few days, and they're only visible a mile or so from where they were posted
16:21 🔗 rocode Plus they stripped the anonymity.
16:21 🔗 rocode Not touching that with a 100 ft pole.
16:21 🔗 xmc sets mode: +oooo midas HCross2 Lord_Nigh Sanqui
16:21 🔗 xmc sets mode: +oooo yipdw balrog arkiver swebb
16:21 🔗 swebb sets mode: +o DFJustin
16:21 🔗 swebb sets mode: +o SadDM
16:21 🔗 swebb sets mode: +o antomatic
16:21 🔗 swebb sets mode: +o brayden
16:21 🔗 swebb sets mode: +o edsu
16:21 🔗 xmc sets mode: +oooo chfoo chazchaz godane DFJustin
16:21 🔗 xmc sets mode: +o schbirid2
16:22 🔗 rocode (I hope your automatic op scripts check host and not just username. :P)
16:22 🔗 xmc that wasn't an auto op, that was me scrolling thru the userlist
16:22 🔗 xmc so ... not really
16:22 🔗 rocode I was refering to swebb. :)
16:23 🔗 xmc oh, yeah, swebb's do
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16:39 🔗 rocode Snapshot diffs uploaded. https://archive.org/details/PLACE-SNAPSHOT-DIFFS
16:40 🔗 xmc kool
16:41 🔗 rocode Once the archivebot jobs finish I think we are 100% on archival for r/PLACE.
16:45 🔗 HCross2 joepie91: my NorthHosts hardware is finally on the way back
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17:13 🔗 joepie91 HCross2: could have gone worse
17:13 🔗 joepie91 :p
17:14 🔗 rocode Microsoft is shutting down literally all of their research division projects. First it was so.cl, now it is their open source repos.
17:14 🔗 rocode Jesus.
17:15 🔗 HCross2 joepie91: had a bit of a go at Jon.. and he's packaged and sent it all for free
17:32 🔗 Smiley rocode: awesome :)
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17:54 🔗 K4k nightpool: Yik Yak is shutting down
17:54 🔗 K4k supposedly
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17:58 🔗 hook54321 K4k: As far as i know, they haven't officially said that is.
17:59 🔗 K4k It's been in the rumor mill for ~6 months at least.
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18:08 🔗 hook54321 K4k: There's a web interface
18:12 🔗 hook54321 https://www.yikyak.com/yak/R/581b8281266910ccd6282f43cc10f
18:13 🔗 hook54321 the wayback machine either doesn't save or doesn't show the replies. archive.is doesn't either.
18:20 🔗 rocode SFF.net has updated their robots.txt to allow our archives to be browsed on the wayback machine. We should be good now.
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19:20 🔗 Kaz rocode: also just caused sublime to baloon to 8.5GB of RAM use before it crashed
19:21 🔗 rocode wtf is researchgate
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19:30 🔗 hook54321 rocode: ResearchGate is a social networking site for scientists and researchers to share papers, ask and answer questions, and find collaborators
19:31 🔗 username1 scientific data silo :( https://www.researchgate.net/
19:31 🔗 hook54321 All you need to sign up is a .edu email address or an invite
19:31 🔗 hook54321 silo?
19:31 🔗 xmc i have a .edu email address :)
19:31 🔗 xmc thanks to my alma mater never retiring them
19:31 🔗 rocode hook54321, looks like different context according to https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sci-Hub
19:32 🔗 username1 nah, rg hosts papers as well
19:32 🔗 username1 but you cannot scrape much
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19:32 🔗 hook54321 xmc: what's an alma mater?
19:32 🔗 schbirid2 fuck this isp
19:32 🔗 xmc the school i went to, hook54321
19:32 🔗 xmc might be just an american term
19:33 🔗 hook54321 I'm in the US...
19:33 🔗 rocode https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alma_mater
19:33 🔗 hook54321 username1: iirc you can access PDFs even if you aren't logged in.
19:33 🔗 rocode it's a common term.
19:33 🔗 hook54321 However you need to have the link
19:34 🔗 hook54321 to the pdf
19:34 🔗 schbirid2 yes maybe
19:34 🔗 schbirid2 not wanna discuss, sorry
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19:35 🔗 hook54321 rocode: I don't see anything in the scihub article about ResearchGate
19:36 🔗 rocode I am so confused at this point I am just going to stop.
19:38 🔗 schbirid2 sci-hub = site to pirate papers
19:38 🔗 schbirid2 rg = "social network" for researchers, including huge paper collection
19:38 🔗 schbirid2 sci-hub was showing they had much more papers than rg
19:38 🔗 schbirid2 EOS
19:38 🔗 hook54321 for authors to share their papers
19:38 🔗 hook54321 oh
19:39 🔗 schbirid2 people upload lots of not-their-own papers
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19:39 🔗 hook54321 on rg or sci-hub?
19:39 🔗 schbirid2 rg
19:40 🔗 hook54321 I thought that it doesn't let people do that
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19:40 🔗 hook54321 heh. someone responded to my request to their article with this: "Sorry, I am unable to share my full-text because I don't know if I have permission to."
19:43 🔗 rocode Science!
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20:10 🔗 JAA Luckily, open access journals are becoming more and more common.
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21:30 🔗 rocode MLKSHK is live. http://archiveteam.org/index.php?title=MLKSHK
21:30 🔗 rocode Warriors needed etc.
21:31 🔗 pnJay JensRex, I will race you to a TB on the mlkshk project! :)
21:31 🔗 pnJay although i have a headstart <_<
21:32 🔗 JAA Any idea yet how many threads are safe?
21:32 🔗 rocode They don't seem to be throttling.
21:33 🔗 pnJay im running 10 on all my warriors so far. No problems so far
21:36 🔗 * JAA queues Mr. Burns's "egg salad".
22:05 🔗 jtn2 I was moaning about gmane.org the other day, so FWIW: it looks like their archives are alive and well if you access news.gmane.org via NNTP, it's just the web front end that's not usable.
22:05 🔗 jtn2 (This may be news to nobody)
22:06 🔗 xmc excellent, i assumed as much but didn't bother to check
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22:16 🔗 Kaz rocode: channel?
22:16 🔗 pnJay #totheyard
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