#archiveteam-bs 2017-04-17,Mon

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01:41 πŸ”— tammy_ anyone know of any efforts into archiving police/fire/ems radio scanners in North America?
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13:47 πŸ”— Aoede https://blog.archive.org/2017/04/17/robots-txt-meant-for-search-engines-dont-work-well-for-web-archives/
13:47 πŸ”— SketchCow Yeah. shhhh
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15:42 πŸ”— C4K3_ Yeah, twitter's new robots.txt is annoying
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16:21 πŸ”— jtn2 Does anyone here know mkram, who was here in Feb?
16:21 πŸ”— jtn2 Want to get in touch with them about gna.org backup (#mkram).
16:21 πŸ”— jtn2 er, #gnarm
16:23 πŸ”— jtn2 1. We didn't bother with metadata for the first upload (https://archive.org/details/@m_kram) and I want to fix that but only they can; 2. I'm hoping they still have gna stuff on their local HD and can do a rsync top-up and re-upload as shutdown approaches
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16:40 πŸ”— Odd0002 I used to have a (free) domain that I had a website on, now I can't even see it because the current owners (domain parked) have a robots.txt on it
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16:53 πŸ”— PurpleSym jtn2: I don’t know him, but I still have my SVN repository dump. 18G.
16:54 πŸ”— jtn2 PurpleSym: yes, I was just remembering that. It ought to be redundant given what we already uploaded to https://archive.org/details/Gna_code_hosting; wondering if we should upload it anyway in case the rsync grab was deficient in some subtle way
16:56 πŸ”— PurpleSym Hm, that item is way larger than what I got. Does it include CVS?
16:56 πŸ”— PurpleSym What kind of metadata do you want to add?
16:59 πŸ”— jtn2 PurpleSym: it includes CVS.
16:59 πŸ”— jtn2 And Arch.
17:00 πŸ”— jtn2 Metadata> description of what all these projects are and how we fetched them.
17:00 πŸ”— jtn2 I haven't really got to grips with the IA metadata format, though, I bounced off the docs :/
17:00 πŸ”— PurpleSym Yeah, that would be good. Maybe try the email address listed here: https://archive.org/history/Gna_code_hosting
17:02 πŸ”— jtn2 Oh!
17:02 πŸ”— jtn2 The @gmail.com one, presumably?
17:02 πŸ”— jtn2 Thanks!
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17:20 πŸ”— PurpleSym jtn2: Yes.
17:29 πŸ”— JensRex http://i.imgur.com/tHJCgyK.png
17:29 πŸ”— JensRex Sadly, not my machine.
17:29 πŸ”— xmc this can't be real
17:29 πŸ”— xmc well i guess it could be a numa cluster
17:29 πŸ”— xmc computers in 2017 are very strange
17:30 πŸ”— JensRex [19:30] <zao> Jens: Knight's Landing.
17:30 πŸ”— JensRex [19:30] <zao> Xeon Phi, whatever name you have for the day.
17:30 πŸ”— JensRex [19:30] <zao> 68 cores, 4 HW threads per core.
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17:37 πŸ”— HCross2 Somebody2: it got further... But then it mined the first 600 and did no more
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18:05 πŸ”— pizzaiolo FYI http://www.anandtech.com/show/11279/intel-discontinues-the-intel-developer-forum-idf17-cancelled
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18:26 πŸ”— jtn2 So, I want to go public on Gna! mailing lists about the Archive-Team-ish efforts, to give any project admins who care the tools to migrate their shit. [...]
18:27 πŸ”— jtn2 I don't expect backlash (or any response at all), but just in case, I'll sort-of be representing or introducing AT. Is there a "AT for those being nonconsensually archived" link I should have ready?
18:47 πŸ”— yipdw I mean I know at least xmc and I try to put pressure on people to *not* do that
18:47 πŸ”— yipdw with exceptions, like gigantic social network sites
18:47 πŸ”— xmc yes
18:48 πŸ”— xmc we don't reach out to site owners because that usually makes them take it down
18:48 πŸ”— xmc or block us
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18:59 πŸ”— Odd0002 By the way, the virtualbox warrior os image doesn't work anymore, the "server" sends no data
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19:12 πŸ”— jtn2 yipdw, xmc: y, which is why I'm hesitant.
19:12 πŸ”— jtn2 Really I want to reach out to project owners who might not know how to rescue their stuff.
19:13 πŸ”— jtn2 However, I doubt Gna admins will block AT. For one thing, AT isn't currently actually doing anything; we grabbed the rsync-able stuff months ago.
19:14 πŸ”— jtn2 I do intend to put some nice words in about having coordinated things to avoid duplicate load on their servers, etc.
19:17 πŸ”— jtn2 By the way, if anyone is interested in helping, I've updated http://www.archiveteam.org/index.php?title=Gna! to indicate where help is needed
19:18 πŸ”— jtn2 tl;dr: We got the bulk data (code and downloads); we haven't got the fiddly webby-scrapey stuff that I don't really know how to do
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19:22 πŸ”— godane some one in uk get this: http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/PC-Gamer-Magazine-Collection/332107927071
19:22 πŸ”— godane its the full collection of PC Gamer UK Edition Magazine
19:22 πŸ”— godane with discs
19:23 πŸ”— Odd0002 nice find
19:26 πŸ”— godane also scumbags are saleing this: http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Official-Xbox-Magazine-Collection-117-Vintage-Retro-Gaming-Magazines-on-1-DVD/222457073754
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19:26 πŸ”— godane i think he is just going after internet archive collection and burning them to disc for $4
19:27 πŸ”— godane All of the ebooks within my collection are fully compliant with all eBay rules and policies concerning copyright and copyright infringement. Β All books within the collection are in the public domain in the United Kingdom on the 70+ year rule following the author's death. Β All dates pertaining to the Author's passing are following the Author's names above. No trademarks or intellectual property rights or Β rules set down by eBay
19:27 πŸ”— godane have been violated. All ebooks have been compiled and placed on to CD-R as per eBay's terms and conditions for selling media products.
19:28 πŸ”— godane so he is saying xbox magazine in public domain in the UK?
19:28 πŸ”— Odd0002 yes, because it's been 70 years after the author died
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19:29 πŸ”— Odd0002 guess the author must have been a time traveler
19:29 πŸ”— godane same here
19:29 πŸ”— Odd0002 yes, seems as if that is what he did, archive.org is also missing 2 and 4
19:30 πŸ”— godane i know cause i uploading that collection
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19:31 πŸ”— godane whats worse is its the web version of xbox magazine
19:31 πŸ”— godane so i doesn't have the ads in them
19:31 πŸ”— Odd0002 oh
19:32 πŸ”— godane http://www.ebay.co.uk/sch/classic-ebook-collections/m.html?_nkw=&_armrs=1&_ipg=&_from=
19:32 πŸ”— Odd0002 did you scan every single page?
19:33 πŸ”— godane i found the xbox magazine when looking up the xbox podcast
19:33 πŸ”— Odd0002 ... "The aforementioned product is copyright 2011-2014 and may not be reproduced, copied or resold under any circumstances."
19:34 πŸ”— godane they give the xbox magazine as award cause the screwed up something with the subscriptions
19:34 πŸ”— Odd0002 oh
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19:34 πŸ”— godane so it was just a download from xbox magazine website
19:35 πŸ”— Odd0002 what about 2 and 4 and the other missing ones?
19:35 πŸ”— godane they didn't have them
19:35 πŸ”— Odd0002 ah ok
19:36 πŸ”— godane it was cause they stopped putting out discs with magazines
19:36 πŸ”— godane starting with january 2012
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19:37 πŸ”— jtn2 Can I put arbitrary basic HTML (e.g. <table>) in IA metadata <description> tag, or is it restricted?
19:42 πŸ”— jtn2 ...well, it seems to work if I do
19:50 πŸ”— godane Odd0002: this is where i got it back in 2013: https://web-beta.archive.org/web/20120308060644/http://www.oxmonline.com/secretstash
19:51 πŸ”— Odd0002 ah
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19:59 πŸ”— Odd0002 there we go, I got the vbox image working
20:00 πŸ”— godane SketchCow: i'm uploading Star Wars 40th Anniversary Panel 4-13 1080p WEB-DL ProRes LPCM2.0-MasterHD to FOS
20:02 πŸ”— Odd0002 sort of, you have to manually run the warrior in the VM
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20:11 πŸ”— layla hi all
20:12 πŸ”— layla I need some help getting content removed from archive.is. Is there anyone here who can help me ?
20:13 πŸ”— Odd0002 why do you want it removed?
20:13 πŸ”— Odd0002 oh
20:13 πŸ”— layla It was personal pictures I meant to share only with my husband
20:14 πŸ”— layla but buy accident I made the album public
20:14 πŸ”— layla and someone archived it.
20:14 πŸ”— Odd0002 I don't think you can?
20:14 πŸ”— layla I contacted the webmaster
20:14 πŸ”— layla but he is not replying to my emails
20:14 πŸ”— layla even through the content that was archived is clearly against the sites TOS.
20:17 πŸ”— Odd0002 does anyone else know it's archived?
20:18 πŸ”— Odd0002 you could try http://blog.archive.is/ask
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20:20 πŸ”— Odd0002 but other than that I don't know what else you could do
20:22 πŸ”— layla i tried via the blog as well
20:22 πŸ”— layla but no answer either.
20:23 πŸ”— jtn2 :( There is a Twitter account @archiveis... but (a) I don't know if it's genuinely associated with archive.is (b) I don't know how you'd contact them with it without drawing undue attention.
20:24 πŸ”— layla yes I don't want that link getting out.
20:25 πŸ”— layla I could try to message him privatly on twitter i guess.
20:25 πŸ”— layla but I don't know why he is not replying at all.
20:27 πŸ”— layla I don't understand how the web host can just ignore DMCA requests
20:29 πŸ”— Odd0002 how long ago did you contact him?
20:31 πŸ”— layla about 2 weeks ago
20:34 πŸ”— Odd0002 oh, well uhhh, maybe he's on vacation?
20:34 πŸ”— layla I hope so...
20:34 πŸ”— layla I guess it is possible
20:34 πŸ”— layla but it is strange that even the webhost is not replying
20:34 πŸ”— layla I would think at least they would acknowledge my request and tell me they are looking into it.
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20:35 πŸ”— layla I have a sad feeling the site is being used to host child porn and that is the reason they are hiding from all these requests.
20:35 πŸ”— layla I googled them and a whole thread came up on that.
20:37 πŸ”— Odd0002 seems their twitter is the official twitter
20:37 πŸ”— Odd0002 https://twitter.com/archiveis/
20:41 πŸ”— layla thanks
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22:34 πŸ”— godane so i found out showbiz korea is on viki.com
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23:25 πŸ”— Odd0002 small problem: I can't find a netinst iso for debian 6.06 through google easily
23:26 πŸ”— Odd0002 and the build script doesn't work with modern virtualbox
23:43 πŸ”— dashcloud have you run the links through the wayback machine?
23:46 πŸ”— Odd0002 ...
23:46 πŸ”— Odd0002 I don't want to stress the archive.org servers
23:47 πŸ”— xmc it'll be fine
23:48 πŸ”— Odd0002 meh, I wanted to try with 6.10 anyways, but I couldn't even get the build script running with modern vbox
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