#archiveteam-bs 2017-04-17,Mon

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01:41 πŸ”— tammy_ anyone know of any efforts into archiving police/fire/ems radio scanners in North America?
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13:47 πŸ”— Aoede https://blog.archive.org/2017/04/17/robots-txt-meant-for-search-engines-dont-work-well-for-web-archives/
13:47 πŸ”— SketchCow Yeah. shhhh
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15:42 πŸ”— C4K3_ Yeah, twitter's new robots.txt is annoying
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16:21 πŸ”— jtn2 Does anyone here know mkram, who was here in Feb?
16:21 πŸ”— jtn2 Want to get in touch with them about gna.org backup (#mkram).
16:21 πŸ”— jtn2 er, #gnarm
16:23 πŸ”— jtn2 1. We didn't bother with metadata for the first upload (https://archive.org/details/@m_kram) and I want to fix that but only they can; 2. I'm hoping they still have gna stuff on their local HD and can do a rsync top-up and re-upload as shutdown approaches
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16:40 πŸ”— Odd0002 I used to have a (free) domain that I had a website on, now I can't even see it because the current owners (domain parked) have a robots.txt on it
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16:53 πŸ”— PurpleSym jtn2: I don’t know him, but I still have my SVN repository dump. 18G.
16:54 πŸ”— jtn2 PurpleSym: yes, I was just remembering that. It ought to be redundant given what we already uploaded to https://archive.org/details/Gna_code_hosting; wondering if we should upload it anyway in case the rsync grab was deficient in some subtle way
16:56 πŸ”— PurpleSym Hm, that item is way larger than what I got. Does it include CVS?
16:56 πŸ”— PurpleSym What kind of metadata do you want to add?
16:59 πŸ”— jtn2 PurpleSym: it includes CVS.
16:59 πŸ”— jtn2 And Arch.
17:00 πŸ”— jtn2 Metadata> description of what all these projects are and how we fetched them.
17:00 πŸ”— jtn2 I haven't really got to grips with the IA metadata format, though, I bounced off the docs :/
17:00 πŸ”— PurpleSym Yeah, that would be good. Maybe try the email address listed here: https://archive.org/history/Gna_code_hosting
17:02 πŸ”— jtn2 Oh!
17:02 πŸ”— jtn2 The @gmail.com one, presumably?
17:02 πŸ”— jtn2 Thanks!
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17:20 πŸ”— PurpleSym jtn2: Yes.
17:29 πŸ”— JensRex http://i.imgur.com/tHJCgyK.png
17:29 πŸ”— JensRex Sadly, not my machine.
17:29 πŸ”— xmc this can't be real
17:29 πŸ”— xmc well i guess it could be a numa cluster
17:29 πŸ”— xmc computers in 2017 are very strange
17:30 πŸ”— JensRex [19:30] <zao> Jens: Knight's Landing.
17:30 πŸ”— JensRex [19:30] <zao> Xeon Phi, whatever name you have for the day.
17:30 πŸ”— JensRex [19:30] <zao> 68 cores, 4 HW threads per core.
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17:37 πŸ”— HCross2 Somebody2: it got further... But then it mined the first 600 and did no more
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18:05 πŸ”— pizzaiolo FYI http://www.anandtech.com/show/11279/intel-discontinues-the-intel-developer-forum-idf17-cancelled
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18:26 πŸ”— jtn2 So, I want to go public on Gna! mailing lists about the Archive-Team-ish efforts, to give any project admins who care the tools to migrate their shit. [...]
18:27 πŸ”— jtn2 I don't expect backlash (or any response at all), but just in case, I'll sort-of be representing or introducing AT. Is there a "AT for those being nonconsensually archived" link I should have ready?
18:47 πŸ”— yipdw I mean I know at least xmc and I try to put pressure on people to *not* do that
18:47 πŸ”— yipdw with exceptions, like gigantic social network sites
18:47 πŸ”— xmc yes
18:48 πŸ”— xmc we don't reach out to site owners because that usually makes them take it down
18:48 πŸ”— xmc or block us
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18:59 πŸ”— Odd0002 By the way, the virtualbox warrior os image doesn't work anymore, the "server" sends no data
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19:12 πŸ”— jtn2 yipdw, xmc: y, which is why I'm hesitant.
19:12 πŸ”— jtn2 Really I want to reach out to project owners who might not know how to rescue their stuff.
19:13 πŸ”— jtn2 However, I doubt Gna admins will block AT. For one thing, AT isn't currently actually doing anything; we grabbed the rsync-able stuff months ago.
19:14 πŸ”— jtn2 I do intend to put some nice words in about having coordinated things to avoid duplicate load on their servers, etc.
19:17 πŸ”— jtn2 By the way, if anyone is interested in helping, I've updated http://www.archiveteam.org/index.php?title=Gna! to indicate where help is needed
19:18 πŸ”— jtn2 tl;dr: We got the bulk data (code and downloads); we haven't got the fiddly webby-scrapey stuff that I don't really know how to do
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19:22 πŸ”— godane some one in uk get this: http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/PC-Gamer-Magazine-Collection/332107927071
19:22 πŸ”— godane its the full collection of PC Gamer UK Edition Magazine
19:22 πŸ”— godane with discs
19:23 πŸ”— Odd0002 nice find
19:26 πŸ”— godane also scumbags are saleing this: http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Official-Xbox-Magazine-Collection-117-Vintage-Retro-Gaming-Magazines-on-1-DVD/222457073754
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19:26 πŸ”— godane i think he is just going after internet archive collection and burning them to disc for $4
19:27 πŸ”— godane All of the ebooks within my collection are fully compliant with all eBay rules and policies concerning copyright and copyright infringement.  All books within the collection are in the public domain in the United Kingdom on the 70+ year rule following the author's death.  All dates pertaining to the Author's passing are following the Author's names above. No trademarks or intellectual property rights or  rules set down by eBay
19:27 πŸ”— godane have been violated. All ebooks have been compiled and placed on to CD-R as per eBay's terms and conditions for selling media products.
19:28 πŸ”— godane so he is saying xbox magazine in public domain in the UK?
19:28 πŸ”— Odd0002 yes, because it's been 70 years after the author died
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19:29 πŸ”— Odd0002 guess the author must have been a time traveler
19:29 πŸ”— godane same here
19:29 πŸ”— Odd0002 yes, seems as if that is what he did, archive.org is also missing 2 and 4
19:30 πŸ”— godane i know cause i uploading that collection
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19:31 πŸ”— godane whats worse is its the web version of xbox magazine
19:31 πŸ”— godane so i doesn't have the ads in them
19:31 πŸ”— Odd0002 oh
19:32 πŸ”— godane http://www.ebay.co.uk/sch/classic-ebook-collections/m.html?_nkw=&_armrs=1&_ipg=&_from=
19:32 πŸ”— Odd0002 did you scan every single page?
19:33 πŸ”— godane i found the xbox magazine when looking up the xbox podcast
19:33 πŸ”— Odd0002 ... "The aforementioned product is copyright 2011-2014 and may not be reproduced, copied or resold under any circumstances."
19:34 πŸ”— godane they give the xbox magazine as award cause the screwed up something with the subscriptions
19:34 πŸ”— Odd0002 oh
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19:34 πŸ”— godane so it was just a download from xbox magazine website
19:35 πŸ”— Odd0002 what about 2 and 4 and the other missing ones?
19:35 πŸ”— godane they didn't have them
19:35 πŸ”— Odd0002 ah ok
19:36 πŸ”— godane it was cause they stopped putting out discs with magazines
19:36 πŸ”— godane starting with january 2012
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19:37 πŸ”— jtn2 Can I put arbitrary basic HTML (e.g. <table>) in IA metadata <description> tag, or is it restricted?
19:42 πŸ”— jtn2 ...well, it seems to work if I do
19:50 πŸ”— godane Odd0002: this is where i got it back in 2013: https://web-beta.archive.org/web/20120308060644/http://www.oxmonline.com/secretstash
19:51 πŸ”— Odd0002 ah
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19:59 πŸ”— Odd0002 there we go, I got the vbox image working
20:00 πŸ”— godane SketchCow: i'm uploading Star Wars 40th Anniversary Panel 4-13 1080p WEB-DL ProRes LPCM2.0-MasterHD to FOS
20:02 πŸ”— Odd0002 sort of, you have to manually run the warrior in the VM
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20:11 πŸ”— layla hi all
20:12 πŸ”— layla I need some help getting content removed from archive.is. Is there anyone here who can help me ?
20:13 πŸ”— Odd0002 why do you want it removed?
20:13 πŸ”— Odd0002 oh
20:13 πŸ”— layla It was personal pictures I meant to share only with my husband
20:14 πŸ”— layla but buy accident I made the album public
20:14 πŸ”— layla and someone archived it.
20:14 πŸ”— Odd0002 I don't think you can?
20:14 πŸ”— layla I contacted the webmaster
20:14 πŸ”— layla but he is not replying to my emails
20:14 πŸ”— layla even through the content that was archived is clearly against the sites TOS.
20:17 πŸ”— Odd0002 does anyone else know it's archived?
20:18 πŸ”— Odd0002 you could try http://blog.archive.is/ask
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20:20 πŸ”— Odd0002 but other than that I don't know what else you could do
20:22 πŸ”— layla i tried via the blog as well
20:22 πŸ”— layla but no answer either.
20:23 πŸ”— jtn2 :( There is a Twitter account @archiveis... but (a) I don't know if it's genuinely associated with archive.is (b) I don't know how you'd contact them with it without drawing undue attention.
20:24 πŸ”— layla yes I don't want that link getting out.
20:25 πŸ”— layla I could try to message him privatly on twitter i guess.
20:25 πŸ”— layla but I don't know why he is not replying at all.
20:27 πŸ”— layla I don't understand how the web host can just ignore DMCA requests
20:29 πŸ”— Odd0002 how long ago did you contact him?
20:31 πŸ”— layla about 2 weeks ago
20:34 πŸ”— Odd0002 oh, well uhhh, maybe he's on vacation?
20:34 πŸ”— layla I hope so...
20:34 πŸ”— layla I guess it is possible
20:34 πŸ”— layla but it is strange that even the webhost is not replying
20:34 πŸ”— layla I would think at least they would acknowledge my request and tell me they are looking into it.
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20:35 πŸ”— layla I have a sad feeling the site is being used to host child porn and that is the reason they are hiding from all these requests.
20:35 πŸ”— layla I googled them and a whole thread came up on that.
20:37 πŸ”— Odd0002 seems their twitter is the official twitter
20:37 πŸ”— Odd0002 https://twitter.com/archiveis/
20:41 πŸ”— layla thanks
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22:34 πŸ”— godane so i found out showbiz korea is on viki.com
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23:25 πŸ”— Odd0002 small problem: I can't find a netinst iso for debian 6.06 through google easily
23:26 πŸ”— Odd0002 and the build script doesn't work with modern virtualbox
23:43 πŸ”— dashcloud have you run the links through the wayback machine?
23:46 πŸ”— Odd0002 ...
23:46 πŸ”— Odd0002 I don't want to stress the archive.org servers
23:47 πŸ”— xmc it'll be fine
23:48 πŸ”— Odd0002 meh, I wanted to try with 6.10 anyways, but I couldn't even get the build script running with modern vbox
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