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SketchCow: i'm upload my vhs capture your FOS |
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godane |
under the Godane VHS Captures folder |
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godane |
i have tons of tapes and over 100gb so far of vhs captures i have done myself |
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nicolas17 |
captures of? |
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godane |
i have some tapes of original broadcasts |
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godane |
with commercials |
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godane |
i'm also giving them to the myspleen site |
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godane |
i have some rare stuff like USA Saturday Nightmares airing of An American Werewolf in London |
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godane |
from 1988-10 |
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I was contemplating adding dafont to font repos in navbar last night since I added two other sites but I decided to hold off for now |
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wp494 |
and then just today they reveal they've been pwned http://www.zdnet.com/article/font-sharing-site-dafont-hacked-thousands-of-accounts-stolen/ |
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.... MD5 ... |
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Lord_Nigh |
can someone check in #internetarchive the issue flurblefi was having? i suspect something broke with robots.txt handling recently, i've noticed this myself too |
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Lord_Nigh |
up until like 3 years ago if the current site robots.txt page blocked IA, the entire site and its whole history would be blocked |
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Lord_Nigh |
3 years ago or so this was changed that it would only be blocked if the site at the time had IA blocked, and a lot of stuff which was blocked became available |
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Lord_Nigh |
this seems to have regressed to the old behavior, site entire history is blocked if robots.txt blocks site today |
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Lord_Nigh |
and people are once again using this maliciously |
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Lord_Nigh |
hmm... does IA have a warrant canary for NSLs? i'm wondering if the change in behavior is deliberate due to a court order or something |
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Somebody2 |
That seems ... implausible. The chances of an NSL requiring such a broad policy change doesn't match my understanding of what they can ask for. |
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Somebody2 |
It seems more likely that it's due to the previously announced plans to adjust how they handle robots.txt. I mean, the announced plans were to *expand* rather than restrict what they distributed, but... |
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Somebody2 |
they also got quite a bit of pushback, so I wouldn't be shocked if they didn't decide, at least for now, to move more the other way. |
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Lord_Nigh |
its still very worrisome |
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Lord_Nigh |
since flurblefi pointed out a site which bought a competitor and intentionally blocked archived material |
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Lord_Nigh |
which was free |
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Lord_Nigh |
to force people to use their paid service |
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Lord_Nigh |
also NSL is farfetched, it could be a sealed or unsealed court order too |
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Lord_Nigh |
and i've been relying on the 'archived version of robots.txt' thing to access a few sites which are parked and blocked |
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Lord_Nigh |
and are now inaccessible |
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Lord_Nigh |
although, the site i needed doesn't have any irreplacable stuff on it, but i'm likely going to eventually run into something that does |
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Somebody2 |
I agree about it being frustrating. I urge you to make *local* copies of stuff that you find (as is a good idea in any case). |
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Somebody2 |
If it was an unsealed court order, I am *certain* IA would have trumpted it widely. |
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Lord_Nigh |
true |
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Somebody2 |
And it still seems implausible for a sealed court order to demand a broad (and visible) policy change but deny the target permission to say why. |
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Lord_Nigh |
but in this case, maybe actions speak louder than words... |
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Somebody2 |
Now, I could certainly see an *informal* threat causing IA to change their robots.txt policy in this way, and not say anything more about it. |
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Lord_Nigh |
hmm. i noticed this policy change seems to have taken effect with the updated UI as well... so for all i know this might just be a bug |
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Somebody2 |
But not a formal court order. |
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Somebody2 |
Have you tried the old UI? |
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Lord_Nigh |
i don't know how to force the old ui |
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Somebody2 |
A bug certainly seems most likely. |
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Somebody2 |
Lord_Nigh: I presume you've emailed info@ already. |
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Lord_Nigh |
actually i have not |
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Somebody2 |
do that! |
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Lord_Nigh |
i just found out about this half an hour ago |
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Somebody2 |
ah, ok |
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Somebody2 |
but it's always a good idea to email info@ (and wait a couple of days to see what if any response shows up) |
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Somebody2 |
also, https://archive.org/wayback/web_beta_feedback.php |
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Lord_Nigh |
ok, what i thought was another bug was actually ia fixing a semi-related bug |
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Lord_Nigh |
so scratch that off |
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Lord_Nigh |
though the use of the wrong robots.txt is still a bug |
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Somebody2 |
Oh? |
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Lord_Nigh |
https://archive.org/post/1019415/retroactive-robotstxt-removal-of-past-crawls-aka-oakland-archive-policy |
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Lord_Nigh |
there was another bug with forcing ia to return css for a page or image for a page sometimes but not always bypassing the robots.txt restriction; this has been fixed. |
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Lord_Nigh |
it sounds like sometime in 2015 IA switched from the "modified oakland standard" where if user agent was "ia_archiver" in robots.txt it would be retroactively blocked |
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Somebody2 |
hm, interesting |
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Lord_Nigh |
to the structure up to 3 months ago where it respected the archived version of robots.txt |
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Lord_Nigh |
now it has gone to the TRUE oakland standard where it respects robots.txt fully and retroactively, which was previously deemed too strict |
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Lord_Nigh |
i.e. it doesn't matter if agent is "ia_archiver" or "" |
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Lord_Nigh |
it treats it retroactively always |
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Lord_Nigh |
i suspect the "true oakland standard" thing is a bug |
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Lord_Nigh |
but the bugfix for occasionally bypassing robots.txt i can understand that |
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Somebody2 |
makes sense |
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Somebody2 |
please do email info@ |
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Lord_Nigh |
ok |
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Lord_Nigh |
sent mail to info |
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Lord_Nigh: great -- I also reached out to a few people. |
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Lord_Nigh |
its also possible i'm completely wrong about the retroactive blocking removal, and if a page was once blocked, it will always be blocked in the archive, but if a page is currently blocked, then all versions of the page are blocked |
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which is silly especially with the ia_archiver thing not being required |
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SketchCow: https://www.reddit.com/r/vintagecomputing/comments/6c1qge/nice_estate_sale_find_every_issue/ |
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godane |
i know you most like have a full set |
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godane |
we need to get the missing issues from 1987 to 1998 scanned |
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