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[04:08] he may be pissed off about the current situation but his hands are tied [04:08] who knows [04:08] If some *other* IA staffer were to say "I'm actually not allowed to comment on the robots.txt thing", I'd be a lot more likely to point to legal stuff. [04:09] true [04:09] for all i know the entire "sudden change" in the way robots.txt is a bug [04:09] but if so i have no idea who is in charge of fixing it [04:10] I have no doubt Jason would prefer to see the Wayback Machine ignore robots.txt, but I am also certain it isn't his decision. [04:11] And I know he pissed off various people when he talked about the proposed changes earlier, so it doesn't surprise me *at all* that he was asked not to talk about it further. [04:11] pissed off various people *OUTSIDE IA* [04:11] important clarification. [04:12] I have no idea what anyone actually connected with IA felt about it. [04:17] I'm also pretty amused/frustrated by MogMiner's comment: "given how open IA usually is, I'm just baffled why this is such a touchy subject with them" [04:17] It's really *obvious* to me at least why this is a touchy subject! [04:18] IA's fundamental way to deal with people upset about them distributing stuff is to say, "OK, sorry, we've stopped now. Bye!" [04:18] *** BartoCH has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 260 seconds) [04:19] Adjusting robots.txt functionality in Wayback (either way) affects that -- *of course* they are touchy about it! [04:20] And the tactic (of saying, sorry-we've-stopped-now) works better the less attention is paid to it -- so minimizing what is said about things ... [04:20] ... associated with the topic is basic sensible strategy. [04:23] OK, rant over. [04:24] *** BartoCH has joined #archiveteam-bs [04:36] tapedrive: http://database.savefanfiction.tk/ throws a 404 Sorry, the requested URL 'http://database.savefanfiction.tk/' caused an error:Not found: '/' [04:38] * Somebody2 goes to read the source code of ia-mine again [04:50] Somebody2: also don't prevent from saving anyway and just not displaying [04:51] gotta think of the long game :) [04:51] jrwr: wait, what? [04:51] I think I forgot the thread of this conversation. [04:52] Yarg! Evil Robots.txt [04:52] :) [04:52] * Somebody2 is still confused [04:52] *** Sk1d has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 250 seconds) [04:54] Somebody2: Having Wayback ignore Robots.txt, it could still store and not display [04:54] I would suspect that is whats going on [04:54] Ah, I see. [04:54] I bet its just some temp bullshit going down [04:55] I agree that is likely, yes. [04:56] Somebody2: just got done setting up a Onion Enabled ArchiveBot [04:56] jrwr: I saw -- good work! [04:56] I feel like that is a ever growing gap [04:56] I know there can be some crazy shit, but its still our culture [04:59] another possibility is that they're trying different robots.txt behaviours to see how much people complain about them, perhaps [05:00] *** Sk1d has joined #archiveteam-bs [05:00] davidar: that's an ... amusing ... possibility [05:02] hahaha [05:02] I love it [05:03] I went on a watching spree of defcon and other con videos [05:03] man I think ive watched over 3-4 hours of SketchCow talking now [05:04] jrwr: only 4 hours? There's lots more... [05:04] I know, just haven't hunted them down "yet" [05:04] jrwr: http://ascii.textfiles.com/speaking [05:05] * jrwr adds it to his watch list [05:05] jrwr: it's a list, not a specific one [05:05] Im adding them all [05:05] nods [05:07] He is good fun [05:07] Right now im watching 3C33 on a 6502 found in a cable box [05:08] * Somebody2 is intending to watch the rest of the "Update or Die" conference videos here: https://www.youtube.com/user/phicentre/videos [05:08] I don't know why, but i love the 6502, I've done a ton of arcade machine repair and love the layout it promotes [05:10] I need to publish my work on a clip on SRAM tester and 6502 Debugger [05:11] it uses a fuck ton of pogo pins, but allows me to sniff all the data off the 6502 as it comes in and out, and the rPi keeps up with it in a 6502 emulated CPU, this allows the rPi to in theory replace the 6502 on board [05:17] according to https://blog.archive.org/2017/04/17/robots-txt-meant-for-search-engines-dont-work-well-for-web-archives/#comment-359347 "ia_archiver" isn't even wayback's useragent (anymore?) [05:39] davidar: interesting [06:03] *** BartoCH has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 260 seconds) [06:17] *** Odd0002 has quit IRC (Read error: Operation timed out) [06:50] *** BartoCH has joined #archiveteam-bs [07:04] *** BlueMaxim has joined #archiveteam-bs [07:10] *** BartoCH has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 260 seconds) [07:16] *** SHODAN_UI has joined #archiveteam-bs [07:21] *** LastNinja has quit IRC (Read error: Connection reset by peer) [07:27] *** wm_ has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 260 seconds) [07:32] *** wm_ has joined #archiveteam-bs [07:34] *** superkuh has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection) [07:35] *** superkuh has joined #archiveteam-bs [07:42] *** voidsta has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection) [07:57] arkiver: I'm still seeing the infinite 206s for IMzy [07:58] It's not on every item, but I've got a big backlog of items on my VPSes with them [07:59] *** SHODAN_UI has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection) [08:00] MrRadar: isn't that expected? 206 just means there's more to download [08:00] But fot literally 3000+ requests in a row? [08:00] 3514=206 https://www.imzy.com/api/accounts/profiles/mcnulty?check=true [08:00] For the same URL [08:01] yeah, i got a lot of those too, i guess i assumed it was fetching some more data or something [08:02] the page is empty, maybe it's imzys way of saying come back later? dunno [08:03] I get different sized responses when refreshing in Chrome [08:07] *** Honno has joined #archiveteam-bs [08:13] *** voidsta has joined #archiveteam-bs [09:15] *** j08nY has joined #archiveteam-bs [10:07] *** BartoCH has joined #archiveteam-bs [11:07] *** BlueMaxim has quit IRC (Quit: Leaving) [11:14] *** pizzaiolo has joined #archiveteam-bs [12:18] *** Jonison has joined #archiveteam-bs [12:22] *** Sanqui has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection) [12:29] *** Sanqui has joined #archiveteam-bs [13:22] MrRadar: i'm beginning to suspect that you're right, something is very strange with the imzy archiver [13:30] *** icedice has joined #archiveteam-bs [13:34] *** icedice has quit IRC (Client Quit) [14:07] *** nicksto has joined #archiveteam-bs [14:23] *** kristian_ has joined #archiveteam-bs [14:27] *** SHODAN_UI has joined #archiveteam-bs [14:34] p/win 2 [14:34] erji0jwq9r1r0rjaodsjfiq [14:34] dsaffdiqi023 [14:36] *** nicksto has quit IRC (Quit: Ex-Chat) [14:55] rong. [15:07] *** SmileyG has joined #archiveteam-bs [15:07] *** SmileyG has quit IRC (Client Quit) [15:09] *** Stiletto has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 260 seconds) [16:08] *** REiN^ has quit IRC (Max SendQ exceeded) [16:10] *** REiN^ has joined #archiveteam-bs [16:19] *** Odd0002 has joined #archiveteam-bs [16:27] *** schbirid has joined #archiveteam-bs [16:38] Verizon closed on their acquisition of Yahoo: https://techcrunch.com/2017/06/13/verizon-closes-4-5b-acquisition-of-yahoo-marissa-mayer-resigns-memo/ [16:39] Kaboom [16:39] I have a feeling its going to die now [16:39] its going to get renamed [16:48] *** Stilett0 has joined #archiveteam-bs [16:49] *** kristian_ has quit IRC (Quit: Leaving) [17:16] *** nicksto has joined #archiveteam-bs [17:17] *** nicksto has quit IRC (Client Quit) [17:47] *** SHODAN_UI has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection) [18:20] Veriyoo [18:22] *** th1x_ has joined #archiveteam-bs [18:23] *** Ravenloft has quit IRC (Read error: Connection reset by peer) [18:25] *** th1x has quit IRC (Read error: Operation timed out) [18:25] *** brayden has quit IRC (Read error: Connection reset by peer) [18:25] *** brayden_ has joined #archiveteam-bs [18:25] *** swebb sets mode: +o brayden_ [18:25] *** brayden_ is now known as brayden [18:27] *** th1x_ has quit IRC (Read error: Operation timed out) [18:36] *** DFJustin has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection) [18:37] *** DFJustin has joined #archiveteam-bs [18:37] *** swebb sets mode: +o DFJustin [18:58] *** kristian_ has joined #archiveteam-bs [19:02] *** kristian_ has quit IRC (Client Quit) [19:45] *** brayden_ has joined #archiveteam-bs [19:45] *** swebb sets mode: +o brayden_ [19:45] *** brayden has quit IRC (Read error: Connection reset by peer) [19:45] *** brayden_ is now known as brayden [19:47] *** Ravenloft has joined #archiveteam-bs [19:54] *** SHODAN_UI has joined #archiveteam-bs [20:44] *** Stilett0 is now known as Stiletto [21:33] Interesting link from /r/DataHoarder: https://it.reddit.com/r/DataHoarder/comments/6gyspx/2_tib_of_old_scene_games_finally_released/ [21:41] nice, thanks [21:48] Grab it, Catalog it, and store it [21:48] Someday, some one will want it [21:48] thats how I see it [21:48] even if they can't use it for the next 50 years [21:49] if we dont save it, no one else will, save it for the future when 100 years from now we can show them how all this went down [21:58] \ [22:01] *** schbirid has quit IRC (Quit: Leaving) [22:04] *** SHODAN_UI has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection) [22:15] *** j08nY has quit IRC (Quit: Leaving) [22:18] *** schbirid has joined #archiveteam-bs [22:19] *** Jonison has quit IRC (Read error: Connection reset by peer) [22:28] *** schbirid2 has joined #archiveteam-bs [22:31] *** schbirid has quit IRC (Read error: Operation timed out) [22:39] *** th1x has joined #archiveteam-bs [22:56] *** SHODAN_UI has joined #archiveteam-bs [23:27] *** SHODAN_UI has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection) [23:50] *** BlueMaxim has joined #archiveteam-bs [23:56] *** Honno has quit IRC (Read error: Operation timed out) [23:57] *** username1 has joined #archiveteam-bs