#archiveteam-bs 2017-08-03,Thu

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02:28 🔗 bsmith093 https://youtu.be/0AwELBYPqiE?t=13m6s that background music 13:05-14:22, i know that's a stock track, i just can't find it anywhere, i looked through all of kevin mcloud's stuff, and it's not there
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02:40 🔗 bsmith093 christ, aparently theres an entire library of stock music for youtube stuff, the song i wanted is called "days are long" by slient partner
02:41 🔗 bsmith093 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FkoJJIZezD4
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06:25 🔗 godane looks like archive.org is down
06:37 🔗 Aoede another power outage? :/
06:52 🔗 godane https://twitter.com/internetarchive/status/892990771544023040
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07:07 🔗 hook54321 I just saw that tweet :/
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07:21 🔗 hook54321 I used it as an opportunity to advertise ArchiveTeam: https://twitter.com/TyHerbt/status/893008813707542528
07:22 🔗 hook54321 wait, can people not see my replies to tweets if my tweets are protected?
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07:28 🔗 hook54321 eh. I'll just temporarily unprotect my tweets
07:32 🔗 hook54321 https://twitter.com/internetarchive/status/893010345249329152
07:55 🔗 hook54321 Sometime after 21 July SoundCloud stopped taking new Dev App Application thingies
07:56 🔗 kittymeow Jonimus : the problem is that kind of thing is completely impractical to encourage people to use, on the usability scale it's non existent for most people, and since it's impractical for only people that use linux to be archiving important pages on the internet, it's a bit shortsighted, focus on the programming instead of the outcome
07:57 🔗 hook54321 But the outcome is what we get from the program...
07:58 🔗 hook54321 The programming determines the outcome
07:59 🔗 hook54321 Also, you can therotically run ArchiveBot on Windows 10 through the Ubuntu thing that was added.
08:01 🔗 Mateon1 hook54321: The ubuntu subsystem on windows is really incomplete, most software I tried didn't work because of missing syscalls
08:01 🔗 Mateon1 So I doubt it could work, but somebody would need to test
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08:13 🔗 hook54321 Mateon1: I tried using ArchiveBot on there, it had some issues, I had to turn something off an archivebot feature to get it to work, so it probably is possible.
08:14 🔗 hook54321 I grabbed more than 50 gigs of stuff with it.
08:28 🔗 hook54321 So I see that the Internet Archive has stopped paying attention to robots.txt. Which may be temporary, so take advantage of this now and save stuff on archive.is
08:47 🔗 hook54321 Actually, only on some websites, Facebook being one of them.
08:47 🔗 godane looks like i maybe able to grab some tokyoeye 2020 episodes that are not on NHK website
08:47 🔗 godane the videos that NHK World host are on ooyala.com
08:48 🔗 godane so if there was a page grab in wayback i maybe grab it
08:51 🔗 hook54321 I think there's a possiblity they may have just started ignoring facebook's robots.txt file...
09:16 🔗 JAA hook54321: Re your tweet: ArchiveBot with a full queue won't do anything if IA (specifically, FOS) is down since all finished jobs will be blocked until IA comes back up.
09:17 🔗 JAA Also, *another* power outage? Jesus.
09:17 🔗 hook54321 ah true
09:18 🔗 hook54321 I'm surprised this guy isn't part of ArchiveTeam. https://twitter.com/xor
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12:05 🔗 ivan hook54321: it's being ignored on other domains too
12:06 🔗 ivan nice find, too bad I don't have a list of things to liberate
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13:31 🔗 SketchCow hook54321: Parker and I are pals
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14:01 🔗 Jonimus hook54321: I think you are missing the point of Tari's little project, first it wasn't considered complete, two I think his use case and what you are looking for are completely different things, i pointed it out because it seemed related to what you wanted but obviously it doesn't quite fit the bill for you.
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16:07 🔗 atrocity for purely archiving needs, are the seagate archive drives the best bang for the buck?
16:08 🔗 atrocity archiving needs meaning write once read many
16:09 🔗 schbirid depends on your usecase. tape might be even better but i see nothing wrong with the archive drives
16:10 🔗 atrocity tapes out, lol. need cheap and high availability (mainly hdd)
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16:52 🔗 hook54321 Aren't tapes significantly cheaper than hdds though?
16:57 🔗 Frogging drives aren't cheap, and tapes aren't high availability
16:57 🔗 zino hook54321: At large scale tape is still cheaper for some things. At low volumes the price for LTO drives will dominate, at medium the price for robots gets you.
16:59 🔗 Frogging the fixed costs are large, in other words
17:00 🔗 zino Yea. The running costs for people to handle tape installations and the expensive software licenses are not to sneeze at either.
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17:41 🔗 hook54321 zino: Are there open source/free software alternatives?
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17:56 🔗 Kaz http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-40820837
17:56 🔗 Kaz hrm
18:07 🔗 atrocity well, this is all for me and my personal archiving needs, not for a business or org or anything
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18:38 🔗 hook54321 Would it be frowned upon to sit in a community college library with a laptop and start ripping stuff from CDs?
18:39 🔗 hook54321 *CDs/DVDs
18:44 🔗 arkiver maybe
18:44 🔗 arkiver I guess you could hide it
18:44 🔗 arkiver and not sit with you screen facing a camera
18:44 🔗 arkiver your*
18:45 🔗 hook54321 yeah, but won't they still see me grabbing discs, putting them in, and then a few minutes later taking them out?
18:46 🔗 arkiver yeah
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19:01 🔗 schbirid2 hook54321: in some countries that might even be allowed i think
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19:02 🔗 hook54321 schbirid2: I'm assuming the US isn't one of them :P
19:02 🔗 schbirid2 :D
19:13 🔗 hook54321 I mean, would they even care? I don't see a reason for them to personally care.
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19:14 🔗 zino hook54321: If you only want to plainly put files on tape you can get away with something like Bacula. But that is not fun to work with.
19:15 🔗 zino When you get into the volumes where tape really makes sense you also often want more features. Sadly the commercial software packages also sucks ass, but they implement more stuff.
19:16 🔗 zino Dealing with backups (or tape really) is boring and thankless, so it's hard to get people enthusiastic about improving the software.
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19:19 🔗 xmc hook54321: i have done this in seattle
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19:22 🔗 hook54321 xmc: Did they know that you were doing it or care?
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19:54 🔗 HCross2 hook54321: I used to do it in school - take out a disk one lunch, return it the next after ripping
19:55 🔗 hook54321 I don't really want to check them out though :/
20:04 🔗 bsmith093 HCross2: i have a relative that works in a large library. they know damn well people do that, but they'd probably prefer you didn;t actually do it in front of them.
20:04 🔗 bsmith093 take out a bunch, return them the next day, repeat.
20:08 🔗 hook54321 bsmith093: what if i'm not sitting right in front of their desk? :P
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20:20 🔗 bsmith093 they probably won;t care
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20:54 🔗 hook54321 Is it just me or is Google Voice not working right now? Won't let me send or receive messages.
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20:55 🔗 hook54321 nvm. just started working again.
21:32 🔗 odemg Torrent Resurection: Calibre Science Fiction Archive 1930s-2000s presented in the calibre database format. These torrents have been around for at least 3 years now are are dying off, I'm giving 60MB/s to get them seeded again, I could use your help if you can afford the space and bandwidth to do so add these torrents to your client, thanks. http://dheval.eieidoh.net:8880/DataHoarder/tmp_requests/CALIBRE_SFF/
21:33 🔗 fazeeka total size?
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23:06 🔗 bsmith093 580+~gb
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23:38 🔗 Amigatari arkiver: If the Googlebot trick doesn't work, it would be pretty sucky.
23:38 🔗 Amigatari I'm sure most pics are behind the login wall.
23:39 🔗 hook54321 for which site?
23:40 🔗 Amigatari Dayviews.
23:40 🔗 Amigatari Me and arkiver talked about it on the other channel
23:47 🔗 hook54321 Can you view the pics through google cache?
23:48 🔗 Amigatari Well, I'm sure you could actually, I just haven't tried it recently.
23:48 🔗 Amigatari I'm pretty sure I've found pictures there through Google Images, and when I opened the actual site, I had to login before being able to see them.
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