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[05:22] <hook54321> Does anyone know if IA has a nondestructive book scanner in SF that someone might be able to go get a book scanned at? The book isn't available online and likely won't ever be unless someone scans it.
[05:36] <CoolCanuc> have you considered using a scanner app on a mobile device? :) 
[05:36] <CoolCanuc> it wont be super high dpi but it will be legiable. 
[05:39] <wp494> hook54321: isn't IA's Scribe system non-destructive already?
[05:39] <hook54321> I think so, the person wants to keep the book though.
[05:40] <wp494> ohhh
[05:40] <hook54321> I saw awhile ago that IA let people scan books at an event....
[05:42] <hook54321> At this event. https://www.eventbrite.com/e/internet-archive-turns-20-tickets-27292398298#
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[07:28] <CoolCanuc> (hey that's me!)
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[10:45] <godane> i'm going to be uploading some more episodes of The Unit
[10:45] <godane> and some 24 episodes i think
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[12:01] <godane> SketchCow: i found tape 1 of bruce schneier deposition
[12:01] <godane> its been digitize now
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[14:02] <odemg> https://www.govdeals.com/index.cfm?fa=Main.Item&itemid=86&acctid=6794
[14:03] <odemg> godane, have we seen any tapes from the myspleen/craigslist guy yet?
[14:05] <godane> there was only one torrent upload so far
[14:05] <godane> its about 22gb
[14:07] <odemg> Slow af...
[14:08] <odemg> Are you getting it to ia as it comes?
[14:09] <godane> i'm not get any of the tapes
[14:09] <godane> i still have to figure out how to mail jasons stuff back to IA
[14:10] <godane> anyways: https://www.gofundme.com/help-to-archive-a-collection-of-vhs
[14:10] <godane> its a collection of 1000 tapes of canadian tv
[14:18] <SketchCow> I have an incredibly boring thing that maybe people want to help with
[14:19] <SketchCow> https://archive.org/search.php?query=%22description%3ADescription%20forthcoming%22
[14:19] <SketchCow> These are all my items which lack descriptions
[14:20] <SketchCow> Anyone who wants to hashbin or pastebin replacement descriptions, I'll take. Otherwise, I'll get to them myself
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[14:52] <godane> https://www.patreon.com/posts/digitize-tapes-15606604
[15:03] <godane> SketchCow: btw i added a 2nd goal to my patreon page: https://www.patreon.com/godane
[15:07] <odemg> godane, how do I get 270,514/4.8TB to ia?
[15:07] <odemg> 270,514 files*
[15:07] <SketchCow> Why ask him and not me
[15:08] <odemg> ohh you're here, it's the Madokami manga ftp rip, how? 
[15:08] <SketchCow> Easiest is mail in a hard drive to me
[15:08] <SketchCow> Or I can give you an FTP drop
[15:09] <odemg> Thought snail mail would come up, but I don't have it locally so ftp would be nice 
[15:15] <odemg> SketchCow, pm me drop details when ready. It's currently on a 10Gbit box in france, what kinda speeds can I expect to be able to push to your ftp?
[15:19] <Igloo> Who's it with odemg?
[15:20] <Igloo> I get around 1Gbps for american hosted
[15:20] <Igloo> and 250 max for european stuff
[15:20] <jrwr> Time for some rsync then :)
[15:23] <odemg> Igloo, not sure honestly, I was given access by someone months ago. I can get 940MB/s between it and another 10Gbit box in Prague though.
[15:30] <Igloo> Noice
[15:44] <SketchCow> https://archive.org/details/archiveteam_pomf?&sort=-downloads&page=1 is me adding POMF logos and images so that the collection, which is terrible, doesn't LOOK terrible.
[15:56] <SketchCow> Also, sorting the things in the godane inbox again
[16:16] <godane> SketchCow: my inbox always need sorting :-D
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[18:03] <SketchCow> It DOES
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[19:00] <JAA> Does anyone here have experience with those $10 external floppy drives from eBay?
[19:01] <JAA> I want to try to save anything that might still be on my floppies. They're all standard 3.5" 2HD (1.44 MB / 2.0 MB) ones.
[19:02] <SketchCow> USB Floppies are fine
[19:03] <PurpleSym> Just noticed that Chrome-based web archiving (using a HTTP proxy) already exists: https://github.com/internetarchive/brozzler/
[19:03] <SketchCow> You want a program that does fucktons of retries
[19:03] <JAA> I.e. ddrescue?
[19:04] <astrid> yeah
[19:04] <JAA> Some of these floppies were written on Windows, others on Mac. Does that matter? (I really have no idea about how floppies work internally.)
[19:04] <astrid> yes. mac floppies are very different.
[19:04] <JAA> Hmm
[19:04] <astrid> they're laid out differently physically
[19:06] <schbirid2> https://twitter.com/winampskins !!!!!!!!!!
[19:06] <CoolCanuk> found this JAA. Install at own risk :P https://www.macdisk.com/mden.php
[19:07] <CoolCanuk> ew. You have to buy it? nevermind
[19:07] <JAA> Ew, Windows.
[19:08] <CoolCanuk> you're the one who wrote the windows files to the disk ;)
[19:08] <CoolCanuk> I misread your orig message wrong. nevermind
[19:12] <JAA> astrid: So does that mean that I'd need two drives to read both types of floppies, or is it just a matter of how the data is structured on the disk?
[19:14] <CoolCanuk> surely there must be a reason why we receive 508 on the wiki. :/
[19:14] <JAA> It seems to be difficult to find information on this stuff on the internet...
[19:20] <CoolCanuk> holy ... I am in disbelief at the new apple "bug"
[19:20] <JAA> if not rootExists: createUser(username = 'root', password = '')
[19:20] <JAA> WCGW?
[19:21] <CoolCanuk> easier to login than the ctrl+alt+del ctrl+alt+del "Administrator" on xp...
[19:22] <astrid> JAA: you need a whole different drive, i believe
[19:22] <JAA> Ew
[19:31] <CoolCanuk> where can we discuss the wiki? I would love it if we could upload svg files
[19:31] <Frogging> you can discuss it here but I don't recall who runs it
[19:32] <CoolCanuk> oh ok :) Thanks
[19:32] <Frogging> they might be lurking if you're lucky
[19:34] <CoolCanuk> It would be nice if the logo was a bit bigger on Template: Infobox project   (like on wikipedia), but it's not my decision. Sadly the template the wiki uses overrides all sizes unless you want to display the full size image
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[20:17] <SketchCow> https://archive.org/details/archiveteam_screenr Much nicer
[20:25] <CoolCanuk> lol wish I knew how to upload web
[20:26] <CoolCanuk> does anyone know if it's possible to "split" files in archive.org? I uploaded a bunch of pdfs as one item and it would be nice to have 1 item per pdf
[20:31] <astrid> you can't split items like that in-place
[20:31] <astrid> you'll have to download and reupload
[20:31] <astrid> which you can do with this tool: https://github.com/jjjake/internetarchive
[20:31] <CoolCanuk> O_O RIP
[20:32] <astrid> i mean, you'll have to write the script yourself, but this takes care of the archive.org bits
[20:41] <CoolCanuk> https://www.metronews.ca/winnipeg.html and https://www.metronews.ca/ottawa.html appear to be officially gone. RIP
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[20:44] <JAA> astrid: What about 'ia move'? That does a server copy + delete, as far as I understand the documentation.
[20:45] <CoolCanuk> I still have the files. 
[20:45] <CoolCanuk> it's just easier to not reupload :P
[20:47] <astrid> JAA: only within the same item
[20:49] <JAA> Oh, really? In that case, the docs are definitely misleading: "You can copy files in archive.org items like so:  ia copy <src-identifier>/<src-filename> <dest-identifier>/<dest-filename>" (and "ia move works just like ia copy except the source file is deleted after the file has been successfully copied.")
[20:51] <astrid> i haven't tried, but i always thought that you can't move across item boundaries
[21:20] <JAA> SketchCow: FOS's pipeline.html is semi-broken. It still displays the df output, but not the individual projects.
[21:22] <SketchCow> Oh, I'm SURE it's broken
[21:22] <SketchCow> I think it's SUPER broken
[21:30] <SketchCow> I'm now fixing things on FOS lineraly
[22:00] <DFJustin> JAA: Mac high-density 1.44MB floppies are the same as PC floppies, just with a different file system
[22:00] <DFJustin> the older 800K floppies use a totally different magnetic encoding scheme
[22:00] <DFJustin> so for the former a USB floppy should be fine, for the latter you'd need an old Mac or a kryoflux type board
[22:00] <astrid> ah, thanks for the clarification
[22:01] <JAA> Sounds good, thanks.
[22:02] <DFJustin> to read the file system on windows you'll need a program like transmac or hfvexplorer
[22:03] <JAA> I've read a bit more about it since, and I came across "DOS = fixed rotational speed, Mac = varying speed" (for better data density in the outer parts of the disk, I assume?). Is that about the 800k ones then?
[22:03] <DFJustin> yes
[22:04] <JAA> I see.
[22:04] <JAA> Lots of confusing information across the internet. :-P
[22:05] <JAA> Which file systems were used? FAT(something) and HFS?
[22:05] <DFJustin> I believe so
[22:09] <JAA> Alright, I'll deal with that when I have the images. Thanks for the info!
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[23:30] <SketchCow> http://fos.textfiles.com/pipeline.html bettere
[23:31] <JAA> :-)
[23:31] <JAA> Thanks!
[23:36] <JAA> SketchCow: You asked the other day whether someone would be willing to fix SSL on the wiki. I'd happily do that. Let's Encrypt has made it really easy.
[23:36] <jrwr> might seem strange, but I need some help programming a 6502 / BASIC, doing some loops inbasic poking data but a refresh look for the LED bank is not getting enough cycles
[23:37] <JAA> And on a related note, is there anything we can do about the resource limit errors? They've been getting quite annoying lately.
[23:38] <jrwr> caching, the site is pretty static, but from what I understand its on a shared webhost under apache
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[23:43] <CoolCanuk> keep-alive would be a start
[23:43] <JAA> HTTP/2, also.
[23:43] <JAA> Lots of potential for improvement.
[23:45] <CoolCanuk> we're not using HTTP/2? oh god
[23:45] <JAA> Of course not.
[23:45] <CoolCanuk> are we anti-cloudflare?
[23:46] <CoolCanuk> they'll give you https, http/2, ipv6, always online, ddos protection, etc for free. You can exclude subdomains from cloudflare as needed
[23:46] <JAA> Fuck CloudFlare.
[23:46] <astrid> we are anti-cloudflare
[23:46] <astrid> cloudflare doesn't give you ddos protection for free, btw.
[23:47] <CoolCanuk> it's worked for me O_O. Just not advanced
[23:47] <CoolCanuk> but I completely understand why you're against WAF and such
[23:49] <JAA> There's also the whole MitM problem, which apparently almost nobody is concerned about. A major fraction of the internet traffic can effectively be monitored and modified at will by one US company.
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[23:49] <CoolCanuk> at&t room 641a?
[23:50] <SketchCow> JAA: OK
[23:50] <JAA> And well, even if they're not evil and all their employees trustworthy, there's still the risk of data leaks, as we've seen just a few months ago.
[23:50] <SketchCow> Well, Coderjo hates cloudflare
[23:50] <SketchCow> I have no direct opinion
[23:50] <astrid> cloudflare fucks with archiving efforts often enough that i don't like it
[23:51] <CoolCanuk> I completely understand why you'd hate cloudflare. I would too.