#archiveteam-bs 2017-12-18,Mon

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00:27 πŸ”— mundus weak spambot
00:29 πŸ”— JAA Quick though, invited me to #JAAisanigger17 within seconds after the first kickban.
00:29 πŸ”— JAA Well, probably that's scripted as well
00:31 πŸ”— t2t2 plenty of spamming at #internetarchive right now
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00:38 πŸ”— hook54321 t2t2: Yeah, we should try to get someone to spread the ops there.
00:39 πŸ”— hook54321 JAA: The person running that youtube show apparently isn't the person spamming in the IRC channels.
00:40 πŸ”— JAA Weird
00:40 πŸ”— JAA "Hey dude, can you promote my show on EFNet please?"
00:41 πŸ”— hook54321 nah, I went onto the stream's live chat and he answered with something about some retard doing it
00:42 πŸ”— JAA Ah
00:42 πŸ”— hook54321 And then someone said "If you're wondering why you're getting spammed this is whyο»Ώ : https://pastebin.com/5YD0uLsS"
00:43 πŸ”— hook54321 I don't have time to try to understand what's going on in that cancerous discussion right now though
00:45 πŸ”— hook54321 oh, it's a botnet. https://pastebin.com/GvqPpgMn
00:54 πŸ”— godane so i got a new vcr and i can capture from it
00:54 πŸ”— godane the only bad news is i its not keeping track of time on tape
01:17 πŸ”— godane so the cbs wizard of oz tape doesn't get picture on this vcr either
01:17 πŸ”— godane its a 1988 cbs airing of wizard of oz
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02:19 πŸ”— ranma hah, i'm getting the weirdest leechers on [MY-RAW] Belle and Sebastian (εηŠ¬γ‚Έγƒ§γƒͺγ‚£) TV 01-52 (DVD 640x480 AVC_AAC)
02:20 πŸ”— ranma dual audio: japanese and chinese, no subs
02:20 πŸ”— ranma just got a leecher from Iran
02:22 πŸ”— godane so i'm grabbing Motor Sports back issues
02:22 πŸ”— ranma gotten Oman, Russia, Kuwait, Saudi Arabia, UAE
02:22 πŸ”— godane https://www.motorsportmagazine.com/archive/issues/1925
02:22 πŸ”— godane https://media.motorsportmagazine.com/archive/january-1925/full/2.jpg
02:26 πŸ”— ranma you're not running into "You have now viewed 0/10 free articles" etc?
02:26 πŸ”— ranma or is that only on articles so new?
02:27 πŸ”— ranma oh, i guess it's hard to do that with images
02:27 πŸ”— godane there are not 10 free articles with images
02:27 πŸ”— godane its all free
02:28 πŸ”— ranma nice
02:36 πŸ”— JAA Not really difficult to implement that, but certainly more work than with HTML pages.
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14:30 πŸ”— godane i'm temped to get this: https://www.ebay.com/itm/LOT-OF-40-POLAROID-PRE-RECORDED-VHS-TAPES-SOLD-AS-BLANKS-80S-90S/202151046847
14:30 πŸ”— godane but the only thing i see i want is the 4 tapes with beyond 2000 on them
14:38 πŸ”— godane SketchCow: when am i getting the label to print to mail back your boxes?
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15:20 πŸ”— SketchCow I will have the team mail you one.
15:20 πŸ”— SketchCow 10lb, right
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15:24 πŸ”— godane yes
15:24 πŸ”— godane but just know i have 3 boxes
15:25 πŸ”— godane also think its weird to mail a shipping lable
15:25 πŸ”— godane *label
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19:13 πŸ”— JAA Is there a particular reason why we don't have an auto-opper bot in #archiveteam (arguably the most important of our channels)?
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19:39 πŸ”— ola_norsk man the 'We will always have this youtube channel' is kind of kicking me in the nuts .. https://youtu.be/t5_dSCu_mLY
19:42 πŸ”— ola_norsk for a 7-10 old youtube channel, what could be a very estimated size at 720p videos?
19:43 πŸ”— Frogging depends how many videos there are
19:43 πŸ”— Frogging a 10 year old channel could have very many videos, very few, or anywhere in between :p
19:43 πŸ”— MrRadar2 And the average video length
19:43 πŸ”— Frogging that too
19:46 πŸ”— ola_norsk ~620
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19:47 πŸ”— ola_norsk i don't know how exact youtube search is https://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=theangrygrandpashow
19:48 πŸ”— Frogging eh, who knows. it's sometimes very inexact and unpredictable in my experience
19:48 πŸ”— ola_norsk (i was kind of expecting it to be more, but i see there's subchannels like 'granpa's corner')
19:48 πŸ”— ola_norsk aye
19:48 πŸ”— Frogging the sorting order changes the number and content of results
19:48 πŸ”— Frogging it's ridiculous
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19:51 πŸ”— ola_norsk one tip courtesy of google search say to hover over username for a couple of seconds, but that seems to be no longer a feature on YT
19:52 πŸ”— MrRadar2 You should be able to find out by finding the channel's "all videos" playlist
19:53 πŸ”— MrRadar2 Select "Play All" under the "Videos" tab of the channel page
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19:54 πŸ”— Frogging oh good tip
19:54 πŸ”— ola_norsk ah ty! (https://www.youtube.com/user/TheAngryGrandpaShow/videos?view=57&flow=list?&ab_channel=TheAngryGrandpaShow) ..i guessing youtube-dl could count them with 'dryrun'
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19:59 πŸ”— ola_norsk seems to really be "just" 621..
20:00 πŸ”— ola_norsk for that specific channel
20:01 πŸ”— ola_norsk e.g one youtube user can have multiple channels, right?
20:10 πŸ”— ola_norsk or rather, one google+ user can
20:12 πŸ”— ola_norsk that 'all videos' playlist tip will do though
20:18 πŸ”— ola_norsk It's damn worrysome that people seems to think Youtube (and google for that matter) is guaranteed to stick around forever
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20:42 πŸ”— godane I HAVE A CHANNEL CALLED #godane-archivebox on irc.efnet.org
20:42 πŸ”— godane LETS BUILD SOFTWARE TO MAKE A CACHE/ARCHIVE BOX FOR HOME USERS
20:45 πŸ”— ola_norsk a NAS ?
20:45 πŸ”— ola_norsk sounds exiting
20:46 πŸ”— godane not a nas but a router with storage
20:46 πŸ”— ola_norsk so a kind of 'preseeded proxy' then?
20:46 πŸ”— godane yes
20:46 πŸ”— ola_norsk good stuff
20:46 πŸ”— godane i guess like the idea of a squid server to save on bandwidth
20:47 πŸ”— ola_norsk aye, not too bad an idea
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21:40 πŸ”— godane so looks like i did 96k items this year so far
21:40 πŸ”— godane last year i did 449,998 items
22:12 πŸ”— ola_norsk who's behind archive.is, and more importantly, why does it block waybackbackmachine?
22:13 πŸ”— ola_norsk it's pissing me off
22:13 πŸ”— ola_norsk is it just cloudflare's fault?
22:15 πŸ”— JAA They don't block WM, they block all bots.
22:16 πŸ”— JAA And they have a quite complex robots.txt.
22:16 πŸ”— JAA I think that individual saves should actually be allowed.
22:16 πŸ”— JAA But WM's robots.txt parsing is quite crude AFAIK.
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22:17 πŸ”— ola_norsk aye, before i got the cloudflare error, i was getting robots.txt error when trying to archive an item
22:17 πŸ”— ola_norsk im pretty sure of that
22:17 πŸ”— JAA Yeah
22:18 πŸ”— JAA Some months ago, I noticed that if a site has Disallow: * + Allow: /something/, i.e. allowing robots only in a specific part of the site, WM doesn't handle that correctly and blocks everything.
22:18 πŸ”— JAA Not sure if that's still the case, but something similar might be what caused that.
22:19 πŸ”— JAA And CloudFlare's just annoying. But we're getting closer to circumventing that automatically. My Python implementation of joepie91's cracker seems to work correctly.
22:20 πŸ”— JAA (I won't release it until I have proper test coverage though.)
22:21 πŸ”— ola_norsk anyway to (ab)use it's seemingly adherance to 'memento api' ?
22:21 πŸ”— ola_norsk "archive.is supports MementoWeb API. More info can be found here" (http://mementoweb.org/depot/native/archiveis/)
22:22 πŸ”— ola_norsk ...whatever that is
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22:26 πŸ”— ola_norsk doesn't look much like icelandic to me https://who.is/whois/archive.is
22:28 πŸ”— ola_norsk unless it's shared outwards, it's basically a glorified url shortener with content
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22:35 πŸ”— ola_norsk 'archive.is is "your personal Wayback Machine".'
22:35 πŸ”— ola_norsk trouble is, more and more people seem to use it
22:38 πŸ”— ola_norsk and if it's not going to any serious wayback machine(s), it could all go away by cancellation of hosting or domain
22:41 πŸ”— ola_norsk i think IA has memento api as well. Any way to check whether or not archive.is is keepin all the goodies?
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22:48 πŸ”— ola_norsk Anyway, maybe they do share. I don't know. "personal waybackmachines" sounds akin to saving warcs on a usb stick though
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