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SketchCow: maybe we fork this project: https://github.com/ikreymer/webarchiveplayer |
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godane |
we have to make search a folder cause right now you need to point to one warc.gz file |
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godane |
ok nevermind |
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godane |
looks like i can point to a folder and it will work |
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godane |
ok there is a bug |
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godane |
it needs full path of web archive |
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godane |
i copy a dump of my breitbart.com news index into a tmp does give me a index of the warc.gz |
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godane |
but not the links works |
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godane |
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~~~~ bs ~~~~ |
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zyphlar |
okay |
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i think the BS is done |
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jacketcha |
? |
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M-WillBra |
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jacketcha |
cool |
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jacketcha |
hey does anybody know the password for the archivebot logs at archive.fart.websiite? |
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godane |
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jacketcha |
how is it? |
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PurpleSym |
SketchCow: I’ll update my scripts so they upload to collection:archiveteam_yahoogroups directly. |
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SketchCow |
Great |
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SketchCow |
Give them a logo if you can |
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SketchCow: Done. You might need to bulk-move a few items that were created before the change. |
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SketchCow |
That's fine, I'll find them. |
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So, Software just became more interesting, CD-ROM wise. |
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Darkstar |
there is still no way for an uploader to change the collection an item has been put into, is there? |
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astrid |
i think you can if you have access to the target collection |
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Darkstar |
for me the whole "collection" input box is non-editable |
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astrid |
snag the "undisable" bookmarklet from here and then you can do it ;) https://www.squarefree.com/bookmarklets/forms.html |
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Darkstar |
hm, I don't really think that will work :) |
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astrid |
works for me! |
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Darkstar |
yes you can edit it then, but I don't think clicking "update" will apply this. It would be a security leak if it did ... |
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astrid |
idk it worked for me last time i did it |
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Darkstar |
ok let me try |
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SketchCow |
We just had the Reckoning of All Reckonings about uploading WARCs to the Archive |
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SketchCow |
Impromptu 8 person meeting on the slack, it was glorious |
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SketchCow |
So, the default is that just anyone can't add WARCs to archive and it will automatically go into Wayback. That'll be only if I clear off an account's uploads. |
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SketchCow |
So I need to find out who a couple people are. |
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SketchCow |
I don't want to drop their e-mails anywhere |
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Darkstar |
heh, seems that it indeed works, at least for putting it into open_source_software ... I still have no access to put it where it belongs though ;-) |
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Darkstar |
but at least it's not in "media" anymore... |
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astrid |
Darkstar: i think SketchCow can help find the right collection maybe |
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Darkstar |
the right collection would be "cdromsoftware" or "cd-roms" (don't know the difference between those two), and "cdinstall" for some others, but I have not yet been able to find out how to get access |
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Darkstar |
I usually just wait, and after some days/weeks the items magically move to one of these collections (I think someone moves them, but they forget the occasional item from time to time ;-) |
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Harzilein |
ola_norsk: i don't know about the api, but maybe they never intended to "drop" a file type? kinda like "unknown" is "nil" so it'd be removing a value instead of changing it |
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ola_norsk |
Harzilein: btw, would you happen to know what happens to Items flagged as "Broken" ? |
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ola_norsk: as i said, i know nothing at all |
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Harzilein: then we are two :D |
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Harzilein |
my completion was broken and i thought you were here already. i wrote: "ola_norsk: i don't know about the api, but maybe they never intended to "drop" a file type? kinda like "unknown" is "nil" so it'd be removing a value instead of changing it" |
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ola_norsk |
ah sry. But what i notice that the item have become more messed up/broken, even since i posted that issue on github. Now suddenly there's not only a few .d64 roms wrongly detected as "DV Audio" and "DV Video". there were no zip files at that time. |
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ola_norsk |
Internet Archive is haunted! :[ |
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ola_norsk |
lol |
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Harzilein |
the playlist is funny :D |
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Harzilein |
wonder what it's about these files that make it detect it as dv |
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ola_norsk |
aye |
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Harzilein |
ah, okay, the playlist is for "aac files" |
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godane |
ola_norsk: i have a squashfs file i uploaded that thinks its a wav file |
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Harzilein |
oh, no, it's for the oggs actually |
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godane |
https://archive.org/details/slackwarearm-14.2-20170906-kiwix |
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ola_norsk |
what could cause it though? |
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Harzilein |
for the simpsons and steve keene private spy ones, i can actually get a glitchy sound by playing and then seeking in them :D |
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(with the web player) |
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the zak one does not seem to have even valid frames ;) |
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ola_norsk |
it must be some kind of fileheader/data detection thingy that does it? |
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ola_norsk: so only the uploader can change the types through the web interface? |
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ola_norsk |
Harzilein: it's possible to do it by using _ia_ tool, but like the issue shows there seems to be a bug |
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ola_norsk: so i think what happened is that 106 files got mis-detected as aac, then of those 3 happened to contain at least one good aac frame in them |
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Harzilein |
<ola_norsk> Harzilein: sadly the issue is that choosing format trough the web gui for 2000+ files is something i gave up on trying to do. |
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ola_norsk |
there were no where near 106 a while back :D |
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it's just that i don't see that option anywhere in the web gui |
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ola_norsk |
it's a drop down menu at every file |
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Harzilein |
the good thing is that the name did not get changed. so the system saw an opportunity to provide unencumbered oggs instead |
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Harzilein |
when i click on "show all" i only get the download view |
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ola_norsk |
what seems to have gone wrong is that "Format" was wrongly detected/set on some during upload. |
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ola_norsk |
even if name extension was the same. My hope was to set all to same "Unknown" format metadata by using |
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ola_norsk |
ia metadata 2813_d64_C64_roms_wwwC64com --target="Metal_Warrior_3.d64" --modify="format:Unknown" |
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Harzilein |
yeah. but you mentioned that isn't possible due to an api bug. |
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Harzilein |
but you also mentioned that it'd be cumbersome but possible to change the type in the web gui |
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ola_norsk |
it is |
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but i can't find that gui element and i assume that's because i'm not the uploader |
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yeah, that is done in "Edit Item/Edit files" |
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if you check one of your own uploaded items, by cliking "Edit" > "Edit metadata", it will be on the bottom of that page. |
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ola_norsk |
to be fair though, Internet Archive does have a warning against items containing >1000 files i think :D |
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astrid |
yeah it hard limits you somewhere around 1000 i think |
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i have a slightly different interface (i kind of get the "non-expert" wording: "Edit" > "I want to change the information (metadata) about my item. |
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Harzilein |
For example, I want to change my [title] or [description]." |
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ola_norsk |
astrid: i didn't hard limit my item :/ |
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ola_norsk |
astrid: it* |
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astrid |
how many files did you put into it? |
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ola_norsk |
2813 |
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astrid |
ok i suspect there's a limit somewhere but idk where it is |
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ola_norsk |
most seems to be ok |
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ola_norsk |
it seemed to me as it's just a caution notice/warning |
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ola_norsk |
one sec |
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ola_norsk |
"Because items can "break" we typically recommend that you not exceed 1,000 files and/or 50GB per item page." |
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ola_norsk |
so i think i should've heeded that :D |
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ola_norsk |
that, or not have done them all in one upload session |
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ola_norsk: i think you should try checking "block archive.php from queueing a derive (needed only in special circumstances; if you’re unsure, leave blank)" next time you initially upload d64 images |
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ola_norsk |
i figured since the files were so miniscule, it would be ok |
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ola_norsk |
Harzilein: doesn't that just apply to audio (and or video) files? |
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ola_norsk: i'm pretty sure the files uploaded fine, but whatever tries to make oggs for the web player might have too aggressively checked the file types |
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ola_norsk: for all the system knows they _are_ audio files w/ a weird extension ;) |
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ola_norsk |
ill try that then |
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ola_norsk: i'm kind of curious what caused it, let me download the simpsons, zak mc cracken and steve keene private spy items |
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ola_norsk |
it must have been some heuristic detection thingy that did it |
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perhaps there's such a thing as "raw aac frames"? |
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Harzilein |
then every file that roughly fits some constraint could be a glitchy aac |
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ola_norsk |
some of the d64 did not even pass virus checking at upload |
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that's why there's not 2813 of them |
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"In addition to the MP4, 3GP and other container formats based on ISO base media file format for file storage, AAC audio data was first packaged in a file for the MPEG-2 standard using Audio Data Interchange Format (ADIF),[43] consisting of a single header followed by the raw AAC audio data blocks." |
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ola_norsk |
maybe if running a diff comparance on a couple of files, including godane's slackware squashfs file..one might find where similarity comparing failed? |
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well, the decoding fails really early, hence the very small derived files |
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and i'd expect the values in the derived frames to be severely clipped too |
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Zak_Mckracken_and_the_Alien_Mindbenders_[Boot].d64 file info: |
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RAW |
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Error: Bitstream value not allowed by specification |
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ola_norsk |
how does Internet Archive try to detect filetypes though? |
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what software used, i mean |
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it would be lovely if it was as easy to just run queries on the item's sqlite database hehe |
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ola_norsk |
in hinsight, i think it might've been smarter of me to use the torrent upload ability of IA on that item |
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damn, even the item's torrent is broken :D |
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i'll just wait and see what happens now that's it's flagged as Broken item |
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