#archiveteam-bs 2018-03-22,Thu

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01:41 🔗 arbin reddit is shit, news at 11
01:50 🔗 bithippo ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
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03:17 🔗 odemg SketchCow, 'Your account is locked.' I ummmm... well I kinda did what you said, I archived 240TB of youtube locally in the last 2 weeks, still had one worker putting stuff on ia and now I'm locked out... :( is this permaban?
03:18 🔗 SketchCow 13,000 Alex Jones Videos. Many of them advertisements. A billion gun videos.
03:18 🔗 SketchCow What did you expect?
03:18 🔗 SketchCow I only just found this happened (I was sent a slack message, like "is this one of yours")
03:19 🔗 SketchCow We are not going to host a pile of how-to gun videos and videos of how to buy guns
03:19 🔗 SketchCow So congrats, you found a limit
03:23 🔗 odemg I know what's been in the news today and that gun channel sits outside of the limitations google set, it was just my favourite one from back in the day, old dude respectfully shooting things. Understandable from your end, we're working on archiving the videos to google now, a little bit silly google bans them from yt, we upload to another google service... idk..
03:25 🔗 odemg And yeah I think I was banned within the last hour, can I get my account back if I promise no more youtube? I know this has been a shit storm lately, we're all running around with out heads on fire wondering where to put all this stuff that's getting censored :(
03:27 🔗 astrid you did exactly what you knew would get you nailed ...
03:29 🔗 odemg I didn't entirely expect slowing down would get me nailed, understandably so previously when my tasks were 1/3 of the derive queue but....
03:31 🔗 SketchCow Like someone dropping 10 trucks into a hole followed by a fridge going "I only dropped a fridge"
03:31 🔗 SketchCow Take a couple days off, we'll revisit
03:31 🔗 SketchCow And boy howdy, do I love being in the middle of this
03:32 🔗 SketchCow Because I fucking LOVED reading that reddit thing where I get told how disappointing I and the archive are and how sad it is and why even be in archiveteam
03:32 🔗 SketchCow LOVED it
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03:35 🔗 odemg Yeah, I saw a few people lost their shit when you/ia said no, I tried to remain hands off on the commentary though. Okay, I'll back off awhile, thanks for giving me the time.
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03:55 🔗 vxbinaca @sketchcow Hey can we chat quick? Friendly and fast I hope.
03:56 🔗 SketchCow What
03:57 🔗 vxbinaca If you're not busy I wanted to iron out our last interaction and make sure we're okay.
03:57 🔗 vxbinaca Also, I talked to Jeff about this but I wanted to run it by you: 1,500 gun videos carefully curated. Is this okay with you?
03:58 🔗 vxbinaca I just want to make sure we're cool and I'm not causing you trouble like you mentioned last time.
03:58 🔗 SketchCow No, we're not taking gun videos.
03:58 🔗 SketchCow Someone should be a hero and store them off somewhere, maybe torrent them or something.
03:59 🔗 SketchCow Make it a big ol' branded torrent, "Banned Gun Videos from YouTube-2018"
03:59 🔗 vxbinaca I won't argue and will halt everything. You got it. Sorry to bother. Have a great night.
04:00 🔗 odemg >1,500 gun videos carefully curated.... dude, who decides which ones, if censorship is happening and there are potentially hundreds of thousands of videos 1500 is just a drop in the water and near pointless, shove them into gdrive, torrent them, worry about the long term when the dust settles.
04:01 🔗 odemg *ocean, but fuck.
04:01 🔗 SketchCow The kettle is literally calling the kettle a kettle
04:01 🔗 vxbinaca @odemg Well since you asked, I looked carefully at the guidelines and figured it's firearms construction videos. So that's what I got. A handful of channels with the most important content.
04:02 🔗 vxbinaca high signal to noise ratio
04:02 🔗 vxbinaca I consulted with (other) gun people, spent 10 minutes making hard choices.
04:02 🔗 BlueMax <SketchCow> The kettle is literally calling the kettle a kettle
04:02 🔗 SketchCow Other window: Uploading 2.1tb of Charlie Rose
04:02 🔗 BlueMax I don't understand what this means in the slightest
04:03 🔗 SketchCow Other Other Window: Uploading VHS Rips
04:03 🔗 SketchCow Other Other Other Window: Pulling every CD-ROM and IPA file and putting them into collections
04:03 🔗 SketchCow Other Other Other Other window: Pubg
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04:08 🔗 vxbinaca @sketchcow Alright I'm out. But, if you're worried about people saying I'm "one of yours", just tell them I'm on my own. I mean that with no offence, but I'm used to working with a small group of my own. I'll take whatevers coming. Anyway, have a great night. Hope to work with you in the future on something. Good night.
04:15 🔗 PoorHomie I mean, the problem here is IA banned a dribble in the firehose of whats coming
04:15 🔗 PoorHomie like 10 different subreddits worth of people archiving gun videos atm that I gurantee people are going to try to ingest into IA
04:17 🔗 vxbinaca I'm *was* only doing 1,500. Into a collection I control. Also, where are these threads?
04:18 🔗 PoorHomie https://www.reddit.com/r/Firearms/comments/85sfrl/what_gun_channels_do_we_need_to_archive_and_where/
04:18 🔗 PoorHomie https://www.reddit.com/r/DataHoarder/comments/85wzhv/youtube_to_start_eliminating_firearm_related/dw1tr0f/
04:19 🔗 PoorHomie several others that are funeled into txt files in those threads
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04:21 🔗 PoorHomie vxbinaca, and yea, that's smart
04:21 🔗 vxbinaca @poorhomie What's smart? Not dumping into community?
04:22 🔗 PoorHomie I was more warning @SketchCow and IA that there's probably gonna be a whole lot more incoming that what odem was putting out
04:22 🔗 PoorHomie building a tight collection of good content, re: smart
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04:26 🔗 BlueMax honestly that still doesn't feel right to me either
04:27 🔗 BlueMax I don't see any reason not to get as much as possible
04:29 🔗 vxbinaca It honestly hurts to have to watch it burn.
04:29 🔗 vxbinaca Least I got what I could.
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04:33 🔗 rbraun SketchCow: speaking of which, i am curious what you meant by "a little experiment to head off a shitshow caused a bigger shitshow I'll be dealing with for months"?
04:34 🔗 rbraun is the bigger shitshow anything to do with the ppl obsessed with alex jones and/or guns who want to now claim IA/AT is censoring them?
04:34 🔗 SketchCow The fun part is that I'm not the one doing the banning/watching stuff come in
04:34 🔗 SketchCow That's Jeff's job
04:37 🔗 rbraun heh yeah... but now you are getting the aggro for it :/
04:44 🔗 BlueMax is Jeff the one that decided not to allow that sort of content
05:04 🔗 vxbinaca @bluemax It doesn't really matter in the end because Jason is staff and what he says goes unless I get told otherwise.
05:05 🔗 BlueMax vxbinaca it means not having an extra archive of culturally relevant data. I'd like to know why
05:06 🔗 vxbinaca Take it up with staff who aren't juggling 10 windows. In the meantime I'm closing IRC.
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09:16 🔗 godane here my latest digitize tapes : https://www.patreon.com/posts/digitize-tapes-17702490
09:17 🔗 godane SketchCow: i'm going to start upload my OOP vhsrip collection
09:18 🔗 godane these videos are going to be upload in folders cause there is box cover art that was scanned of these tapes
09:18 🔗 godane and the tape labels
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11:20 🔗 hook54321 gra
11:20 🔗 hook54321 disregard that
11:22 🔗 hook54321 eientei95: (Continuing from #archiveteam) I think it's a problem that most of the old newspaper archives are owned by for-profit corporations that charge for access to them, but I'm not sure what there is that can be done about it, easily at least.
11:23 🔗 hook54321 If those companies close, then the content will likely go with them.
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13:00 🔗 hook54321 Is backblaze trustworthy?
13:03 🔗 hook54321 I've heard good things and iffy things about them
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13:27 🔗 plue hook54321: tell us about the iffy things :)
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13:28 🔗 hook54321 Apparently the way they use their drives is unusual
13:30 🔗 hook54321 oh wait, that was said in response to some statistics, nvm.
13:33 🔗 Sanqui should we have a page that lists languages and the ArchiveTeam members who can speak them, for reference?
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14:05 🔗 JAA Yeah, their hard drive statistics are interesting but completely irrelevant because they use those drives way outside the specs.
14:06 🔗 JAA I've heard that the restore from their consumer product (i.e. not B2, but the $5/month flatrate deal) is painful.
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15:24 🔗 SketchCow Not surprisingly, the Charlie Rose upload is going to take a while.
15:24 🔗 SketchCow 2.1tb!
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16:21 🔗 godane SketchCow: any news from Mank?
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18:56 🔗 eientei95 hook54321: That's fair. Guess I'll do some snooping
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20:01 🔗 godane SketchCow: any news from Mank?
20:03 🔗 godane btw we finally have 1989-02 issue of Byte Magazine https://archive.org/details/198902ByteMagazineVol1402PersonalWorkstationMacSE
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20:26 🔗 bithippo @godane: That's awesome!
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21:33 🔗 godane so i have a capture of this tape but some one already uploaded it: https://archive.org/details/KeeptheFaithChristianVHS
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21:33 🔗 godane as in someone else also capture the tape
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21:40 🔗 SketchCow I think I'm going to take the rest of the night off before I really hurt someone
21:43 🔗 godane SketchCow: who did you hurt?
21:43 🔗 SketchCow Before, godane. Preventative
21:44 🔗 godane ok
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