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08:20 🔗 JAA Sanqui: Oh, nice, didn't know about {{Job|...}}.
08:20 🔗 Sanqui JAA: It's my child. I made it two days ago :p
08:20 🔗 JAA Excellent idea!
08:21 🔗 JAA Also, you just reminded me that I should update my grab of Romhacking downloads.
08:21 🔗 Sanqui I just want the wiki to be a no hassle documentation of what we're doing.
08:23 🔗 Sanqui Are you an admin on the wiki, btw? I do want to make some changes
08:24 🔗 JAA Nope
08:28 🔗 JAA My GIGA grab is almost done. 1.6 million URLs retrieved, 210k to go. 24.8 GiB of WARCs so far.
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08:41 🔗 eientei95 JAA: I've got a THDN download script too :p
08:41 🔗 eientei95 *RHDN
08:42 🔗 JAA :-)
08:42 🔗 eientei95 Also grabbing the descriptions because why not
08:42 🔗 JAA The more, the merrier.
08:43 🔗 JAA Yeah, I grabbed the entire website minus downloads through ArchiveBot last summer, and the downloads manually with my scripts and wpull.
08:44 🔗 eientei95 Cool
08:45 🔗 JAA Still need to upload that to IA though.
08:45 🔗 JAA That and a ton of other stuff.
08:45 🔗 eientei95 I love how they tried to stop bots with the "copy this sequence" part
08:45 🔗 eientei95 When all it requires is changing regex
08:45 🔗 JAA Haha, yeah, that was a fun 10 seconds to fix that.
08:58 🔗 Sanqui JAA: Whaat? *I* grabbed the entire website minus downloads through ArchiveBot last summer!
08:58 🔗 eientei95 JAA, Sanqui; potato tomato
09:00 🔗 eientei95 Also the entirety of RHDN's downloads is only 5.2GB
09:00 🔗 JAA Sanqui: 2017-08-02 08:23:51 UTC <@JAA> !a http://www.romhacking.net/ [...]
09:00 🔗 JAA Yep
09:01 🔗 Sanqui JAA: Oh, don't worry, I believe you :p
09:01 🔗 JAA :-P
09:01 🔗 Sanqui But yeah, I archived it earlier when it went down for a bit.
09:01 🔗 JAA Ah
09:01 🔗 Sanqui https://www.archiveteam.org/index.php?title=Romhacking.net
09:01 🔗 JAA I guess we grabbed it twice then.
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09:03 🔗 Sanqui JAA: anyway, please grab the @eevee twitter account
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09:04 🔗 JAA Yeah, the scrape is running.
09:04 🔗 Sanqui ah, thank you
09:04 🔗 eientei95 > Downloading a file now requires copying a password into a form, restraining archival attempts.
09:04 🔗 eientei95 >>restraining
09:04 🔗 JAA Found ~70k tweets so far.
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09:06 🔗 JAA eientei95: To be fair, it does restrain archival attempts in the sense that we can't just throw it into ArchiveBot or another automated tool.
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09:07 🔗 eientei95 True
09:14 🔗 JAA TIL that makes a difference.
09:15 🔗 JAA Makes sense, but I never thought about it.
09:16 🔗 Sanqui that giga screenshot, lol.
09:17 🔗 JAA :-)
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13:04 🔗 SketchCow All hail archiving twice
13:14 🔗 Sanqui two independent archivals mean less much chance for missing or errornous stuff
13:23 🔗 DrasticAc Where does archive bot store the warcs it makes?
13:24 🔗 arkiver JAA: I see you grab is going pretty good
13:24 🔗 arkiver is there still a need for a warrior project you think?
13:26 🔗 JAA arkiver: Not sure. Although I think it's doing well, I haven't actually verified the contents at all yet.
13:26 🔗 JAA It has slowed down significantly since it's now mainly retrieving large threads with many pages (which are slower to generate on the server side).
13:27 🔗 JAA A little under 100k remaining now.
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13:29 🔗 JAA So yeah, at the moment, I have no idea how much longer it'll take.
13:30 🔗 JAA The remaining count is dropping slowly, about 9k per hour.
13:32 🔗 JAA It probably doesn't make sense to run a full warrior project. If anything, maybe one for threads with more than N pages. (I could get that list from my grab relatively easily.)
13:32 🔗 JAA But yeah, really hard to estimate currently. It might be fine.
13:34 🔗 JAA DrasticAc: The WARCs are first uploaded to FOS and from there to this IA collection: https://archive.org/details/archivebot Use http://archive.fart.website/archivebot/viewer/ or https://github.com/JustAnotherArchivist/archivebot-archives for searching.
13:35 🔗 DrasticAc Ah, cool beans.
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13:44 🔗 JAA Oh, thanks for catching that, Sanqui.
13:45 🔗 JAA I'll update the other pages where I used that as well.
13:45 🔗 * JAA has no idea how to use MediaWiki.
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14:54 🔗 zino !status
14:54 🔗 zino Well, almost the right channel
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16:43 🔗 astrid archivebot business: i contacted falconk re his pipelines, he knows about the issues and will get to it when he has time between putting out fires
17:18 🔗 bmcginty HCross: I'm interested in purevolume. sorry, just saw your comment.
17:20 🔗 JAA 2 million GIGA forum URLs done, 31k currently in queue. 32.2 GiB of WARCs up to now.
17:22 🔗 bmcginty HCross: grabbing artist playlists currently (site reports 3m artists, only got 300k showing tracks). no way to get list of all artists b/c browse page only shows up to 1000 artists, and geofencing via zipcode is not...possible (90210 shows 86k artists, for example).
17:35 🔗 bmcginty Are there any resources for getting full link lists for a given website? I know there are sitemaps, but if robots.txt doesn't list them, and google doesn't goof and show you a sitemap url, then you're out of luck with a given site. Anywhere else I can look, assuming the site itself doesnt ahve a way to list everything?
17:48 🔗 bmcginty Sweet! https://web.archive.org/web/timemap/json can show a list of urls.
17:58 🔗 bad_faith I was thinking of that as a starting point at least
17:58 🔗 bad_faith common crawl as well
18:01 🔗 bad_faith http://web.archive.org/web/timemap/xd?url=*.purevolume.com&filter=statuscode:200&collapse=urlkey&fl=original
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18:26 🔗 bmcginty bad_faith: any reason not to just use cdx directly? http://web.archive.org/cdx/search/cdx?url=*.purevolume.com&limit=5&showResumeKey=true&output=json&fl=original&collapse=urlkey&filter=statuscode:200
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18:27 🔗 bmcginty bad_faith: can't tell if they're the same backend.
18:27 🔗 bad_faith generally, no.
18:27 🔗 bad_faith They are different somehow. I have found domains that are strangely excluded from CDX but not wayback machine itself but are available through the timemap endpoint
18:35 🔗 bmcginty bad_faith: thank you.
18:48 🔗 bmcginty bad_faith: I'm possibly goofing, but I can't get your timemap endpoint to do offsets or resumption. Need to do some more looking though.
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19:08 🔗 JAA Uh oh, one of my GIGA wpull processes crashed with a seg fault.
19:13 🔗 godane digitize tapes for 2018-04-13: https://www.patreon.com/posts/digitize-tapes-18161599
19:14 🔗 godane SketchCow: i really need those vhs boxes with return labels
19:14 🔗 godane only cause i have filled 3 home depot small boxes with tapes
19:36 🔗 godane so i'm at 190k items for the year
19:37 🔗 godane 26k items for just this month so far
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20:43 🔗 JAA Anyone here proficient with gdb? I ssh'd into a host, attached to a running process with gdb. Then the SSH connection failed. gdb is still running and blocking the process. How can I instruct gdb to detach from the process?
20:44 🔗 JAA I have some crazy ideas like attaching to the gdb process with gdb, reopening stdin through a FIFO, and sending it "detach", but I have no idea if that would work.
20:45 🔗 JAA Letting gdb continue to run would also be fine for me, as long as the original process (the tracee) continues to run.
20:51 🔗 astrid why don't you just kill gdb
20:51 🔗 JAA Because that, as far as I know, also kills the process gdb is attached to.
20:52 🔗 astrid it shouldn't but let me test
20:52 🔗 astrid kill -9 of gdb doesn't affect the process it's attached to
20:52 🔗 astrid verified
20:53 🔗 astrid that only is an issue if the process is a child of gdb
20:55 🔗 JAA Ah
20:55 🔗 JAA Yeah, that actually makes sense.
20:55 🔗 JAA If the process is started from within gdb, they're probably in the same process group, I guess.
20:56 🔗 JAA Which means that the SIGKILL gets sent to both gdb and the inferior.
20:57 🔗 Jens So, I bought a domain...
20:57 🔗 Jens goatse.sx
20:58 🔗 Jens Time to bring back the legend.
20:58 🔗 Jens This counts as archival, right?
21:00 🔗 JAA Yep, it worked, thanks astrid! :-)
21:00 🔗 astrid JAA: yay!
21:06 🔗 schbirid Jens: yay!
21:06 🔗 Jens Somewhat related question... how do I get a capture from archive.org without all their JS and HTML garbage embedded?
21:07 🔗 JAA You add id_ at the end of the timestamp.
21:08 🔗 Jens Oh nice.
21:11 🔗 schbirid oh nice indeed!
21:11 🔗 schbirid i had no idea
21:15 🔗 astrid (or im_ )
21:21 🔗 JAA im_ still rewrites links and adds some scripts.
21:21 🔗 JAA Just like if_
21:22 🔗 JAA id_ is the only one that returns the raw original content, as far as I know.
21:23 🔗 astrid ah interesting
21:24 🔗 JAA im_ and if_ are actually used inside the Wayback Machine when you browse stuff, for images/other embedded content and frames, respectively.
21:25 🔗 JAA I don't think id_ is used anywhere. I only know about it because I read about it somewhere on our wiki IIRC.
21:29 🔗 SketchCow Yeah, a secret
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22:22 🔗 JAA My GIGA grab is almost done. It's just retrying about 31k remaining errors now.
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22:30 🔗 ola_norsk are there any words about the 'wikifying' of IA item metadata?
22:31 🔗 ola_norsk in the meantime, i'm having some iterest in trying to found out what this discussion is about https://archive.org/details/AudioRecording_201610 :D
22:32 🔗 ola_norsk sounds like a heated debate of sorts, in a language i don't know
22:34 🔗 ola_norsk "Topic: M" and "Description: M" not giving me many clues
22:34 🔗 astrid -ot please
22:34 🔗 ola_norsk wikification of IA item metadata was mentioned here previously
22:35 🔗 ola_norsk /part
22:35 🔗 ola_norsk ahgh
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